Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[Treacle Toes]

Do working class white males not matter in this too, or are you playing some sort of shit identity politics devoid of any class analysis?

Besides plenty of black, LGBT and women did vote for Trump but that will be inconvenient for liberals.

Personally I would like to see evidence of this. Some? Sure. Plenty? Not so sure about that at all. There is a difference.

 

[Ted Striker]

Imagine the obsequious "congrats" calls from the world leaders.

 

[redsquirrel]

that ad from Trump posted a few pages back about de industrialisation, jobs and all that really showed how he had an open goal on those issues. He was talking about the failure of neoliberalism etc - how could Clinton seriously respond to that? 'America's already great!' She and her team probably thought that was a great line, but it would most likely only have scored more points for Trump.

As that piece killer b linked to said

Trump sold Hope, Clinton sold the status quo.

Trump’s motto was “make America Great Again”. Clinton’s said “America’s already great.” That told anyone who wasn’t doing well that Clinton was not their candidate.

The Recovery Never Touched A Lot of People

And Clinton and Obama told those people they didn’t care about them. All this bullshit about the unemployment rate when the percentage of jobs available compared to the population never recoveredand when only one year of Obama’s reign saw general increases in income.

 

[hash tag]

heaven help us all.

 

[Anju]

At least we can look forward to a revamped Whitehouse.

 

[redsquirrel]

The majority of people voted for Clinton, is that right? But the way the thing works Trump won.

No Trump is still ahead in the popular vote ATM. (57,286,593 to 56,358,391 votes). That Clinton might lose while winning the popular vote was mooted as a possible scenario.

EDIT: If anybody can find a figure for turnout can they post it (and a link to the source) I'd be grateful. It'd' be interesting to see what extent people not turning out for Clinton was a factor.

 

[Poi E]

It's looking like a Paul Verhoeven film out there.

So many thick and vile cunts in America. What an ignorant shit hole and sewage dump.

probably more tolerant than you, though.

 

[inva]

redsquirrel Sweet FA

some very good points in that piece, cheers

 

[phillm]

 

[redsquirrel]

redsquirrel Sweet FA

some very good points in that piece, cheers

you should thank killer b rather than me, he was the one that posted it first

 

[Jeff Robinson]

It's looking like a Paul Verhoeven film out there.


probably more tolerant than you, though.

I'm proud to be intolerant of violent sexual predators and psychotic racist bullies thanks.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Do working class white males not matter in this too, or are you playing some sort of shit identity politics devoid of any class analysis?

Besides plenty of black, LGBT and women did vote for Trump but that will be inconvenient for liberals.

My facebook feed is full of Azealia Banks screaming that her nigga won. Up the liberal elite etc. It's entertaining, she's quite funny. It's about all that is stopping me from shooting myself richt noo.

 

[krtek a houby]

So many thick and vile cunts in America. What an ignorant shit hole and sewage dump.

No, no, no. I won't have that. The people have spoken. The thick and vile cunts are the liberal, intellectual, middle class elite (because no working class vote for the democrats) who believed that racism, misogyny and prejudice is wrong. Their day is over. America prevails.

 

[killer b]

redsquirrel Sweet FA

some very good points in that piece, cheers

he goes into more detail about the opposing camps messages in this blog, which is very good. Trump Pushes Hope While Clinton Pushes Fear | Ian Welsh

 

[inva]

you should thank killer b rather than me, he was the one that posted it first

thanks killer b !

 

[Dr. Furface]

I liked what Michael Moore said to Jon Snow on C4 news last night, it was something like -
'At least you guys only voted to leave Europe. If Trump wins tonight, America will have voted to leave America'

 

[spliff]

Something looks seriously wrong with his youngest son. Is anyone else watching this?

DT seemed a bit slurry when he started his speech, I thought maybe the kid had imbibed as well, he looked like he was going to chunder or collapse.

 

[inva]

he goes into more detail about the opposing camps messages in this blog, which is very good. Trump Pushes Hope While Clinton Pushes Fear | Ian Welsh

it's an interesting take and highlights how Trump's strategy pushed Clinton into a situation where the response could only be negative
had it been an ordinary Republican candidate she could have pretended to have a positive vision like they all usually do, but this time it wouldn't have been credible.

 

[tommers]

DT seemed a bit slurry when he started his speech, I thought maybe the kid had imbibed as well, he looked like he was going to chunder or collapse.

To be fair I'd feel like that if I was on a stage in front of billions of people.

 

[danny la rouge]

he looked like he was going to chunder or collapse.

A lot of people feeling that way, hearing the news I imagine.

 

[phillm]

Starting to feel almost physically sick - this is how I imagine die hard Trump supporters feel today about their 'Leader' - spoiler warning toxic unashamed remixed Hitler speech.

 

[phillm]

Here's their methodology for the poll - they say they got Obama almost dead right.

Lots of people have questions about the USC/L.A. Times tracking poll; here are some answers

Time for the LA Times to crow - they got it right twice now first bang on Obama and now Trump.

 

[stethoscope]

And still people posting shit gifs 'thicko racists', 'fuhrer huh huh'. I realise it is much easier to do this than actually stop burying your liberal heads in the sand and start critically analysing why people like Trump have won and Clinton not.

Christ, Trump winning brings me no pleasure whatsoever (and nor would Clinton particularly), but really, the response on here just demonstrates precisely the point.

 

[Yossarian]

Holy crap, it's Springtime for Trump! Wouldn't be so bad if the House and Senate weren't also now Republican, and if he didn't have a Supreme Court justice to nominate, as it stands the US is about to become a much worse place to live than people could have imagined just a couple of years ago.

 

[danny la rouge]

Starting to feel almost physically sick - this is how I imagine die hard Trump supporters feel today about their 'Leader' - spoiler warning toxic unashamed remixed Hitler speech.

Wouldn't have thought so.

Can you elaborate?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

And still people posting shit gifs 'thicko racists', 'fuhrer huh huh'. I realise it is much easier to do this than actually stop burying your liberal heads in the sand and start critically analysing why people like Trump have won and Clinton not.

Christ, Trump winning brings me no pleasure whatsoever (and nor would Clinton particularly), but really, the response on here just demonstrates precisely the point.

Amazing isn't it. And will be the reason Le Pen storms it in France too.

 

[bimble]

Do working class white males not matter in this too, or are you playing some sort of shit identity politics devoid of any class analysis?

Besides plenty of black, LGBT and women did vote for Trump but that will be inconvenient for liberals.

What do you think about this - from the exit polls. It suggests that the people on the lowest incomes voted for Clinton and that your use of the word 'plenty' should maybe be defined.

 

[danny la rouge]

Holy crap, it's Springtime for Trump! Wouldn't be so bad if the House and Senate weren't also now Republican, and if he didn't have a Supreme Court justice to nominate, as it stands the US is about to become a much worse place to live than people could have imagined just a couple of years ago.

Indeed. And the Supreme Court being the most important of those. The other "checks and balances" missing are after all just Democrat politicians.

Trump won't bring down the establishment or "drain the swamp". Hopefully this will demonstrate whose interests are protected by political institutions. What we will see is a harder Republican consensus in Washington.

 

[phillm]

Wouldn't have thought so.

Can you elaborate?

Apologies should have said 'some' die-hard Trump supporters. Over at Stormfront many Nazis,proto-Nazis ,KKKers and the like are ecstacic as to a Trump victory. Can't imagine a similar reaction for any other US President in recent history. 200 pages on their BB in less than 24 hours on a single thread.

Re: United States of America presidential election of 2016
Hail Wotan! The gods were with us! America Erwacht!

 

[danny la rouge]

Apologies should have said 'some' die-hard Trump supporters. Over at Stormfront many Nazis,proto-Nazis ,KKKers and the like are ecstacic as to a Trump victory. Can't imagine a similar reaction for any other US President in recent history.

Reagan was popular with the far right. If you're looking for parallels, there are more to be found there than Germany in January 1933.