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Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

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I think there are few things more certain than that the Republicans in both houses will go after him if he wins. They cannot allow him to fail, because of the impact on their own electoral chances, and they cannot allow him to succeed either because their continuing uselessness would be highlighted even more than it was in the Primaries. If he wins, the mandate he would get over them is immense; he could reshape the GOP in his own tiny-pawed image and have many of the current occupants booted out. Surely none of them would want that.

Of course that leads to Trump's biggest problem - if he wins, Pence is far more palatable to that lot.

He's such a shitshow he could conceivably end up breaking the political mould, purely by accident .the republican and democratic elites may realign together out of their common interests and shared hatred . Similar to what's been happening as regards Corbyn and the PLP . Regardless of his actual politics he's basically somebody who shouldn't be where he is . An interloper . A fly in the business as usual ointment . Shit as he is that's much better than neo liberal business as usual under Clinton. It has the potential to shatter that system .
 
He's such a shitshow he could conceivably end up breaking the political mould, purely by accident .the republican and democratic elites may realign together out of their common interests and shared hatred . Similar to what's been happening as regards Corbyn and the PLP . Regardless of his actual politics he's basically somebody who shouldn't be where he is . An interloper . A fly in the business as usual ointment . Shit as he is that's much better than neo liberal business as usual under Clinton. It has the potential to shatter that system .
It has nothing of the kind. He's a billionaire landlord cunt who will act in his and his class's interests. He's already signalled as much by announcing that he wants to cut taxes. Then he'll have the problem of which things to cut in order to cut taxes, but he'll find something, just as GWB, Reagan, and others before him found something. And he'll no doubt swell the national debt still further to do so, and do what is necessary in order to do that - primarily keeping the Chinese sweet.

The idea that Trump somehow represents a way to smash the established elites is possibly the most absurd hope of trump supporters of all. He will do no such thing. He is one of them.
 
In case things weren't weird enough already, Beyonce brought some backup dancers in pantsuits to a get-out-the-vote concert in Cleveland Friday...

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Sanders would be so far ahead right now Trump would probably have given up long ago . He should have ran as an independent . No excuse not to after his shafting became common knowledge . Although his ultimate deference to the Dem elite calls both his backbone and sincerity into some question . How much deference to his betters would have occurred while in office ?
Yes yes yes and right fucking yes, said this at beginning -- thankyou
 
It has nothing of the kind. He's a billionaire landlord cunt who will act in his and his class's interests. He's already signalled as much by announcing that he wants to cut taxes. Then he'll have the problem of which things to cut in order to cut taxes, but he'll find something, just as GWB, Reagan, and others before him found something. And he'll no doubt swell the national debt still further to do so, and do what is necessary in order to do that - primarily keeping the Chinese sweet.

The idea that Trump somehow represents a way to smash the established elites is possibly the most absurd hope of trump supporters of all. He will do no such thing. He is one of them.

Egg-zactly. Trump is not the man. Hopefully, there will be a much better candidate along soon in the mould of Bernie Sanders for the next election. In the meantime Hillary Clinton, with all her faults, is the best of the two and some of the criticism of her is slightly overblown. Casually Red is a misguided fool imho.
 
see that one pre inaugural stumbling block has been lifted ......the the alleged peadohilpe rape victim has dropped her case ....


facing a baying mob ...and the death threats from the lunatic fringe .....while having her life stripped bare in public .....hell of an ordeal to face ....

A Randy royal must be relieved that this is one bed of coals that's not going to be raked over
 
In case things weren't weird enough already, Beyonce brought some backup dancers in pantsuits to a get-out-the-vote concert in Cleveland Friday...

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Thanks for the heads up - good to know. On a similar note looks like Katy Perry is also firmly in the Hillary camp. More disturbingly though the Grande Dame of pop princesses Taylor Swift is a rumoured to be a Trumpian which could be as much contrarian fallout from the Taylor/Perry spat as belying her seemingly conservative country musical roots.

Taylor Swift: Is She Voting For Donald Trump?! - The Hollywood Gossip
 
How Teens In The Balkans Are Duping Trump Supporters With Fake News

“This is the news of the millennium!” said the story on WorldPoliticus.com. Citing unnamed FBI sources, it claimed Hillary Clinton will be indicted in 2017 for crimes related to her email scandal.

“Your Prayers Have Been Answered,” declared the headline.

For Trump supporters, that certainly seemed to be the case. They helped the baseless story generate over 140,000 shares, reactions, and comments on Facebook.

Meanwhile, roughly 6,000 miles away in a small town in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, a young man watched as money began trickling into his Google AdSense account.

Over the past year, the Macedonian town of Veles (population 45,000) has experienced a digital gold rush as locals launched at least 140 US politics websites. These sites have American-sounding domain names such as WorldPoliticus.com, TrumpVision365.com, USConservativeToday.com, DonaldTrumpNews.co, and USADailyPolitics.com. They almost all publish aggressively pro-Trump content aimed at conservatives and Trump supporters in the US.

The young Macedonians who run these sites say they don’t care about Donald Trump. They are responding to straightforward economic incentives: As Facebook regularly reveals in earnings reports, a US Facebook user is worth about four times a user outside the US. The fraction-of-a-penny-per-click of US display advertising — a declining market for American publishers — goes a long way in Veles. Several teens and young men who run these sites told BuzzFeed News that they learned the best way to generate traffic is to get their politics stories to spread on Facebook — and the best way to generate shares on Facebook is to publish sensationalist and often false content that caters to Trump supporters.

As a result, this strange hub of pro-Trump sites in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia is now playing a significant role in propagating the kind of false and misleading content that was identified in a recent BuzzFeed News analysis of hyperpartisan Facebook pages. These sites open a window into the economic incentives behind producing misinformation specifically for the wealthiest advertising markets and specifically for Facebook, the world’s largest social network, as well as within online advertising networks such as Google AdSense.
 
To paraphrase Sarah Palin, a good look here on how the Hopey Changey stuff is working out

Socialism: Converting Hysterical Misery into Ordinary Unhappiness | Jacobin

In yesterday’s New York Times, Robert Pear reports on a little known fact about Obamacare: the insurance packages available on the federal exchange have very high deductibles. Enticed by the low premiums, people find out that they’re screwed on the deductibles, and the co-pays, the out-of-network charges, and all the different words and ways the insurance companies have come up with to hide the fact that you’re paying through the nose.

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For policies offered in the federal exchange, as in many states, the annual deductible often tops $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a couple.

Insurers devised the new policies on the assumption that consumers would pick a plan based mainly on price, as reflected in the premium. But insurance plans with lower premiums generally have higher deductibles.

In El Paso, Tex., for example, for a husband and wife both age thirty-five, one of the cheapest plans on the federal exchange, offered by Blue Cross and Blue Shield, has a premium less than $300 a month, but the annual deductible is more than $12,000. For a forty-five-year-old couple seeking insurance on the federal exchange in Saginaw, Mich., a policy with a premium of $515 a month has a deductible of $10,000.

In Santa Cruz, Calif., where the exchange is run by the state, Robert Aaron, a self-employed 56-year-old engineer, said he was looking for a low-cost plan. The best one he could find had a premium of $488 a month. But the annual deductible was $5,000, and that, he said, “sounds really high.”

By contrast, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, the average deductible in employer-sponsored health plans is $1,135."

It’s true that if you’re a family of three, making up to $48,825 (or, if you’re an individual, making up to $28,725), you’ll be eligible for the subsidies. Those can be quite substantive at the lower ends of the income ladder. But as you start nearing those upper limits (which really aren’t that high; below the median family income, in fact), the subsidies start dwindling. Leaving individuals and families with quite a bill, as even this post, which is generally bullish on Obamacare, acknowledges.

Aside from the numbers, what I’m always struck by in these discussions is just how complicated Obamacare is. Even if we accept all the premises of its defenders, the number of steps, details, caveats, and qualifications that are required to defend it, is in itself a massive political problem. As we’re now seeing.

More important than the politics, that byzantine complexity is a symptom of what the ordinary citizen has to confront when she tries to get health insurance for herself or her family. As anyone who has even good insurance knows, navigating that world of numbers and forms and phone calls can be a daunting proposition. It requires inordinate time, doggedness, savvy, intelligence, and manipulative charm (lest you find yourself on the wrong end of a disgruntled telephone operator). Obamacare fits right in with that world and multiplies it.
 
Tacking back a bit to North Carolina

Thursday in Selma, North Carolina

I pulled up to a giant field, flanked by American flags held by cranes. A bizarre Rolling Stones soundtrack blared on loop: “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” (like the presidency, I prayed) and “Let’s Spend The Night Together” (OK, one night if we must, but please not four years). I went through the metal detectors.

Overhead the Jumbotrons scrolled through a series of infographics and slogans:

DON’T LET ESTABLISHMENT ELITES BUY THE ELECTION

WALL ST. IS WITH HER

SHE GOT $48.5 MILLION FROM WALL ST. HEDGE FUNDS

The Jumbotron messages hurt my head. I’m almost shocked they didn’t invoke the 1 percent. It was populism gone wrong, though historically it’s gone this way before—the rightwing version has always been more robust than its leftwing foil. A few months ago Trump had rallied in Wilmington, North Carolina, the site of America’s only and largely forgotten coup. In 1898, in the waning days of Reconstruction, rioting white supremacists overthrew a multiracial progressive “fusion” government, deposing democratically elected leaders of both races and killing black citizens mercilessly. After that, populism in North Carolina, as in the South more broadly, was a white affair. At his rally near the site of that historic, shocking savagery, Trump suggested “the Second Amendment people” do something about Hillary.

I scanned the crowd. These were my family’s neighbors, the kind of people I went to high school with, people I’ve regularly encountered but never really known. I wandered around awkwardly, thinking about the left’s shortcomings, missed opportunities. Shouldn’t many of these folks have been with Bernie? Maybe some of them were, at one point.

When the speeches began, things shifted. Two teenagers in the audience—two of six people of color I saw in the crowd of over 10,000, none of them black—registered some discontent as Trump took the stage. Whatever they said wasn’t loud, dramatic, or disruptive enough for me to hear or see from fifteen feet away, but it was enough to transform the immediate crowd into a mob. The kids were violently attacked by a group of guys, and onlookers swarmed to join in or cheer from the sidelines. The man next to me gloated about how “the Mexicans” got beat, and his wife smiled approvingly.

They got the crap kicked out of them. The switch from families milling about to an apoplectic, racist horde was instantaneous. I can’t think of another word—it was chilling. Nothing you haven’t seen on YouTube, but depressing and scary and surreal to be in the midst of it.

Meanwhile, the US commentariat looks to eugenics for answers....

David Brooks: Less Educated Will Vote For Trump No Matter What, "Just Going With Their Gene Pool"

Brooks said the less educated and non-college educated whites are going to vote for Donald Trump no matter what. He added, "people are just going with their gene pool."

Brooks said demographics is the reason why Clinton is making a campaign stop in the state of Michigan, normally a Democratic stronghold, because "there are a lot of white people."

"Basically, less educated or high school-educated whites are going to Trump," Brooks told host Judy Woodruff. "It doesn't matter what the guy does. And college-educated going to Clinton."

"Sometimes, you get the sense that the campaign barely matters," a dejected Brooks said. "People are just going with their gene pool and whatever it is. And that is one of the more depressing aspects of this race for me."
 
This e-mail leak makes it sounds like Sanders and Clinton had an agreement about how far each were willing to criticise the other, or at least the agreement was that Sanders would only go so far in attacking Clinton.

Fwd: Sanders criticism - WikiLeaks

This isn't in keeping w the agreement. Since we clearly have some leverage, would be good to flag this for him. I could send a signal via Welch--or did you establish a direct line w him?
 
This e-mail leak makes it sounds like Sanders and Clinton had an agreement about how far each were willing to criticise the other, or at least the agreement was that Sanders would only go so far in attacking Clinton.

Fwd: Sanders criticism - WikiLeaks

From that email (emphasis added):

Asked about the Clintons' wealth, Sanders responded: "Theoretically you can be a multibillionaire and in fact be very concerned about the issues of working people. Theoretically that's true. When you hustle money like that, you don't sit in restaurants like this. You sit in restaurants where you spend, I don't know what they spend, hundreds of dollars for dinner and so forth. That's the world you are accustomed to. And that's the worldview that you adopt. I'm not going to condemn Hillary and Bill Clinton because they've made a lot of money. That type of wealth has the potential to isolate you from the reality of the world."

I wanted to see if the campaign had any comment, especially because her town hall events involve interacting with a lot of real-world people. Otherwise, I'll just pull a campaign quote from other times the money issue has popped up.

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EARLY VOTING BLOG: Early voting kills Trump in NV

Donald Trump will be in Reno on Saturday, but the Republicans almost certainly lost Nevada on Friday.

Trump's path was nearly impossible, as I have been telling you, before what happened in Clark County on Friday. But now he needs a Miracle in Vegas on Election Day -- and a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl championship is more likely -- to turn this around. The ripple effect down the ticket probably will cost the Republicans Harry Reid's Senate seat, two GOP House seats and control of the Legislature.

How devastating was it, epitomized by thousands of mostly Latino voters keeping Cardenas market open open in Vegas until 10 PM? This cataclysmic:

----The Democrats won Clark County by more than 11,000 votes Friday (final mail count not posted yet), a record margin on a record-setting turnout day of 57,000 voters. The Dems now have a firewall -- approaching 73,000 ballots -- greater than 2012 when Barack Obama won the state by nearly 7 points. The 71,000 of 2012 was slightly higher in percentage terms, but raw votes matter. The lead is 14 percentage points -- right at registration. You know what else matters? Registration advantages (142,000 in Clark). Reminder: When the Clark votes were counted from early/mail voting in 2012, Obama had a 69,000 vote lead in Clark County. Game over.
 
It's good of Spanish speaking Americans to save Clinton in her hour of need. Reminds me a bit of this story which had a bit of a different ending.


Hillary Clinton Defends Call To Deport Child Migrants | Huffington Post

Hillary Clinton this week defended her call to deport children from the U.S. who are fleeing violence in Central America.

Speaking at a press conference in Las Vegas on Tuesday, the former secretary of state and candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination said that deporting the children, many of whom are seeking asylum, would send a “responsible message” that would deter Central American families from sending their children to the United States.

“Specifically with respect to children on the border, if you remember, we had an emergency, and it was very important to send a message to families in Central America: Do not let your children take this very dangerous journey,” Clinton said.

Those children were primarily fleeing the right-wing violence unleashed following the coup she backed in Honduras.
 
If Clinton does indeed win I think we will be saying 'it was the Chicanos wot won it'

That "they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists" line that turned the vast majority of Latinos against Trump came a couple of minutes into his speech announcing his candidacy in June last year - looks like he may have spent 120 seconds as a viable candidate then wasted his own and everybody else's time and money for the following 16 months.
 
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