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[teqniq]

If he wins the nomination as this predicts, hopefully it will fuck the Republicans completely:

Trump is heavy favorite in GOP 2024 primary: poll

Former President Trump is the clear favorite to win the 2024 Republican presidential nod, despite Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) swelling national profile, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris P…

thehill.com

 

[Kaka Tim]

If he wins the nomination as this predicts, hopefully it will fuck the Republicans completely:

Trump is heavy favorite in GOP 2024 primary: poll

Former President Trump is the clear favorite to win the 2024 Republican presidential nod, despite Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) swelling national profile, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris P…

thehill.com

" be careful what you wish for" in large letters all over this.
Surely best result is he doesn't get the nomination and then runs as an independent, splitting the Republicans vote.
I'm guessing there will be a concerted attempt to keep him out including from his former media supporters, like murdoch.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

" be careful what you wish for" in large letters all over this.
Surely best result is he doesn't get the nomination and then runs as an independent, splitting the Republicans vote.
I'm guessing there will be a concerted attempt to keep him out including from his former media supporters, like murdoch.

Does he need to be in the party? Iirc Bernie Sanders has run for the Democrat nomination as an independent at least once.

 

[teqniq]

Yeah fair point and yes Murdoch rags have already been openly critical:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/23/media/murdoch-trump-jan-6-new-york-post-wall-street-journal/index.html

 

[tim]

Does he need to be in the party? Iirc Bernie Sanders has run for the Democrat nomination as an independent at least once..

As far as I understand can run in the Primaries as a Republican or a Democrat and as there's no hierarchical party structure, as there is in the UK, nobody can stop you, and equally for the same reason anyone can register as a Democrat or Republican and vote in the respective primaries. It's not like the UK where the parties can turf out undesirables. If you win, you are the candidate of the party. Were Trump to stand and lose in the Primaries, I think that would show that he'd lost the support of those who would vote for him.

 

[Hollis]

The comeback king..

 

[bcuster]

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www.nydailynews.com

He may be arrested

 

[Bingoman]

NY Daily News - We are currently unavailable in your region

www.nydailynews.com

He may be arrested

That mean if guilty he cant stand, if that is correct

 

[bcuster]

Looks like he’ll be arrested on Tuesday

 

[Bingoman]

Looks like he’ll be arrested on Tuesday

'Allegedly'

 

[bcuster]

'Allegedly'

All news outlets are reporting it as fact, at least that’s the way I’m interpreting it…

 

[krtek a houby]

Looks like he’ll be arrested on Tuesday

C u next Tuesday, Donald

 

[bcuster]

Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday, calls for protests

A spokesman for Trump said the former president had not been notified of any arrest. Trump provided no evidence of leaks from the Manhattan district attorney's office and did not discuss the possible charges.

www.reuters.com

 

[krtek a houby]

Sounds like the type of nonsense you'd read on the Palmer Report. He won't be arrested.

 

[emanymton]

Being arrested doesn't mean a great deal anyway. It is being charges that really matters.

 

[petee]

Sounds like the type of nonsense you'd read on the Palmer Report. He won't be arrested.

in fact, no law enforcement agency explicitly said that. he's ginning up a scene.

 

[Yossarian]

A grand jury vote to indict Trump could happen as soon as Monday but the process will probably take longer, according to this story:

Not so fast. A New York grand jury will hear a final surprise witness on Monday and won't vote on Trump indictment until it's over.

A final witness must testify Monday before the Manhattan grand jury that's been hearing evidence since mid-January can vote, a source tells Insider.

www.businessinsider.com

An arrest would follow a vote to indict, though Trump is in Florida and I'm not sure if the DeSantis regime still recognises the federal government

 

[petee]

further:

Manhattan DA warns of ‘attempts to intimidate’ after Trump calls for protest

Alvin Bragg is expected to bring an indictment against Trump this week over hush payments to adult actor Stormy Daniels in 2016

www.theguardian.com

 

[Ax^]

Being arrested doesn't mean a great deal anyway. It is being charges that really matters.

the charges have already been turned down by one government agency

will be a lot of bluster but not a lot of legal ramifications

hush money to the porn star.. this is not what i want him arrested for

 

[Lord Camomile]

I'm guessing there will be a concerted attempt to keep him out including from his former media supporters, like murdoch.

I think it's a relatively wildly held opinion that Trump never actually wanted to be President, he just wanted the attention and adulation.

Presuming this is still true, could Murdoch (or someone else) not offer Trump his own show or something in order to, explicitly or covertly, keep him from running?

Simply "hey, Donald, here's a studio, a camera, and an hour of prime time every night, you just keep yourself busy there".

Imagine they'd want to give him less if they could, not least because there's a danger he would spend his time attacking the favoured Republican candidate(s) as much as he would the Dems, but have to think they'd at least consider something along those lines.

Maybe a gameshow that goes on the road and emulates all the bits of a rally that Trump likes?

 

[stavros]

An arrest would follow a vote to indict, though Trump is in Florida and I'm not sure if the DeSantis regime still recognises the federal government

Even if he didn't doesn't he hate Trump? Would he not make an exception?

Hopefully Trump is deemed a flight risk and is incarcerated until trial.

 

[bcuster]

Inside the Payoff to a Porn Star That Could Lead to Trump’s Indictment

At the time, it all was more tawdry than momentous. A reality star invited a porn actress half his age to a hotel room after a round in a celebrity golf tournament. She arrived in a spangly gold dress and strappy heels. He promised to put her on television and then, she says, they slept...

www.yahoo.com

 

[strung out]

I think it's a relatively wildly held opinion that Trump never actually wanted to be President, he just wanted the attention and adulation.

Presuming this is still true, could Murdoch (or someone else) not offer Trump his own show or something in order to, explicitly or covertly, keep him from running?

Simply "hey, Donald, here's a studio, a camera, and an hour of prime time every night, you just keep yourself busy there".

Imagine they'd want to give him less if they could, not least because there's a danger he would spend his time attacking the favoured Republican candidate(s) as much as he would the Dems, but have to think they'd at least consider something along those lines.

Maybe a gameshow that goes on the road and emulates all the bits of a rally that Trump likes?

Yes, if there's anything the last two and a half years have shown us, it's that Donald Trump doesn't really want to be president.

 

[bcuster]

Noted US legal scholar claims Trump could preside from prison:

Trump Could Be President From Prison, Says Alan Dershowitz

The former president is facing a potential indictment, which may come as early as this week.

uproxx.com

 

[bcuster]

 

[Yossarian]

Even if he didn't doesn't he hate Trump? Would he not make an exception?

I don't think DeSantis can afford to alienate the kind of voter that is Trump-friendly but would consider voting DeSantis - his political future might depend on how successfully he can pretend that a Trump arrest is an outrage.

 

[petee]

Let us begin with the obvious thing that just happened: This morning, Donald Trump threatened to summon a mob—for the second time in two years—to his defense. The former president of the United States and a leading candidate for the Republican nomination for the White House in 2024, facing a possible indictment in New York, claimed to know the exact day on which he would be arrested and then called on his supporters to “protest.” Trump and his cult know what a call for “protest” means: The last time he rallied his faithful supporters this way, they stormed the U.S. Capitol, which resulted in death and destruction and many, many prison sentences.

Spokespeople from the former president’s office have already walked back Trump’s statement, noting that they have not been told of any specific date for an indictment or an arrest. Indeed, any attempt to book Trump is unlikely to happen as soon as Tuesday, for many reasons. But that’s not the point. Trump’s message today to the American people has already come through loud and clear: I am too dangerous to arrest.

Trump Did It Again - The Atlantic

archived 20 Mar 2023 12:37:09 UTC

archive.ph

getting a bit 1st c. BC rome here.

 

[bcuster]

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Sounds like the type of nonsense you'd read on the Palmer Report. He won't be arrested.

I will believe it when I see it. TBH, I'll believe it when he (and his entire genetic line) rest in the ground. Until then, I'll take his attempts to gin up violence at face value.

 

[petee]

DeSantis calls possible Trump indictment ‘manufactured circus,’ attacks top prosecutor

“I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I just I can’t speak to that.’’ -- Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis

www.yahoo.com

also, as every new yorker thought would happen, trump is calling on the police to side with him

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc486075-3de1-49e1-881e-74c23e1540da_680x615.jpeg

this has potential, both in general and because the current DA has been made the poster boy for "everything wrong" with new york. never mind it was trump who sent the mob who got cops killed in DC.