Donald Trump - MAGAtwat news and discussion

[Aladdin]

Nope... But I was interested very much in the one that came long before it in 2005 long before 9-11 even happened..

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Notice the Wuhan Bat and the words numbers 9-11

He must have thought 9 -11 was in Sept 2011.






Clown

 

[klang]

I don't think the twin towers were even built in 911.

 

[WouldBe]

Have you been living in a secluded cave for the past thirty years? CRT monitors are not "new", otherwise I somehow have display technology more advanced than some supposed black operation.

Would make mobile phones a bit bulky.

 

[rekil]

we're listening to Golf Skid's and Man Boob's

I prefer their earlier work.

 

[Ming]

His accountancy firm have had enough (rats/ship).

Trump Organization’s accountants cut ties, calling years of filings unreliable

Mazars, Donald Trump’s longtime accountancy firm, sever links amid criminal and civil investigations of ex-president’s business

www.theguardian.com

 

[JimW]

We are shocked to discover the books we cooked for Trump are bent!

 

[tim]

We are shocked to discover the books we cooked for Trump are bent!

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[pogofish]

His accountancy firm have had enough (rats/ship).

Trump Organization’s accountants cut ties, calling years of filings unreliable

Mazars, Donald Trump’s longtime accountancy firm, sever links amid criminal and civil investigations of ex-president’s business

www.theguardian.com

Interesting - Mazars don't seem to be too fussy about the company they keep commercially and have some other seriously shifty clients and independence/conflict of interest issues.

 

[Ming]

Interesting - Mazars don't seem to be too fussy about the company they keep commercially and have some other seriously shifty clients and independence/conflict of interest issues.

Weird innit? Why now and why him in particular?

 

[pogofish]

Weird innit? Why now and why him in particular?

Reputation management maybe - Or that they might not want the matter of colluding with Trump as an an anchor, dragging them down with him?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I'd guess their expectations of their clients and particularly of the dodgier ones is that they basically do what they're told. The reputational risk of acting for a dodgy scumbag is one thing but acting for a dodgy scumbag loose cannon who's liable to start bragging about things they've been told to keep schtum about is something else.

 

[rubbershoes]

I'd guess their expectations of their clients and particularly of the dodgier ones is that they basically do what they're told. The reputational risk of acting for a dodgy scumbag is one thing but acting for a dodgy scumbag loose cannon who's liable to start bragging about things they've been told to keep schtum about is something else.

And continuing acting for one who is coming under judicial scrutiny is unwise.

 

[agricola]

Weird innit? Why now and why him in particular?

TBF his defence was always likely to be “well my accountants deemed it ok” and he’d have plenty of evidence showing how they’d accepted his crap for years without complaining as they are meant to do.

A lot of his antics are those of a proper fraudster (as in getting his marks to incriminate themselves so they can’t or don’t feel they’d be able to dob him in as effectively as an “innocent” person would for fear of the consequences to themselves), and this is no exception.

 

[two sheds]

TBF his defence was always likely to be “well my accountants deemed it ok” and he’d have plenty of evidence showing how they’d accepted his crap for years without complaining as they are meant to do.

A lot of his antics are those of a proper fraudster (as in getting his marks to incriminate themselves so they can’t or don’t feel they’d be able to dob him in as effectively as an “innocent” person would for fear of the consequences to themselves), and this is no exception.

I'll bet he laid it all out in his Art of the Deal - conmen usually seem to tell people exactly what they're doing to them.

 

[agricola]

I'll bet he laid it all out in his Art of the Deal - conmen usually seem to tell people exactly what they're doing to them.

Perhaps, though of course he didn’t write that himself

 

[Smangus]

So at what point will Mazars be investigated for false accounting then?

 

[weltweit]

The last thing anyone on planet sane needs is that egomaniac in the White House again.

 

[stavros]

TBF his defence was always likely to be “well my accountants deemed it ok”

 

[not-bono-ever]

If he runs, he will win

 

[not-bono-ever]

My money is on bill gates , currently at 500/1. Elvis is 1000/1

 

[agricola]

If he runs, he will win

I don't think he would; as we saw last time he attracts too much of an anti-Trump vote. If Ivanka runs, I think she wins.

 

[two sheds]

unless the democrats stop the gerrymandering and vote rigging the republicans can put up any fucker I'd have thought

 

[Ming]

So at what point will Mazars be investigated for false accounting then?

That’s the one.

I suspect it’s the calculus of legal costs combined with PR management (No ethical concerns…if you can get a cunt out of bad legal jeopardy you’ll be well thought of and get more business)

Mazars in the US is an LLP (limited liability partnership). So like a company its professionals are protected as it’s the organization that gets sued. They have to pay personal liability insurance though (why most big accountancy firms shifted from partnerships to LLPs in the 90’s as bad management consultancy advice was sending the premiums through the roof).

Big organizations are complex and the approach their internal and external auditors take can be esoteric and highly subjective. So it’s often a matter of professional opinion whether a crime has been committed or not. And the cases can go on for years.

The Trump organisation has been basically undervaluing the organisation for tax purposes (asset depreciation and loss related carry forwards) and then overvaluing the organisation for the purpose of obtaining financing. Obviously these positions don’t match up which is why Mazars is jumping ship

ETA: This is a great presentation about this kind of stuff.

 

[rubbershoes]

It does seem as if the legal chickens could be coming home to roost.

Trump is no Al Capone, but if it's financial irregularities that take him down, so be it

 

[Badgers]

 

[nogojones]

Poor Eric.

Even his Dad thought he was such a moron, that he couldn't be trusted with any figures

 

[Badgers]

 

[likesfish]

Interesting - Mazars don't seem to be too fussy about the company they keep commercially and have some other seriously shifty clients and independence/conflict of interest issues.

They scent Blood in the water and decided to get out of dodge before the cool aid is served mercenaries who aren't liable to get paid don't hang about.

 

[gosub]

Opinion | The tragedy of losing the ability to be shocked by Trump

Reports of a sociopathic president ought to be bigger news.

www.msnbc.com

Wanted people peacefully protesting the death of George Floyd outside the Whitehouse shot.

 

[weltweit]

Oh please pretty please don't let Trump stand at the next election.

One term was one term too many.

I would fear for the world were he to be elected again.