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I don't get on with videos either, there usually seems to be a couple of minutes of saying who they are and why they're making the video and who their sponsors are and what they do and why they're worth supporting ...

but yep each to their own

Yeah it's annoying when you google how to do something on your pc and all you find is you tube videos. You just want them to awnser the question but no waffle first :mad:
 
Videos are pointless for me. I never click on them. I tend to read well-written news articles, but I have no interest in hearing some breathless fast-paced, chop-edited talking head, which is 99% of YouTube. And when the video is clickbait headlined with “OMG!”, that’s a total red flag.
As with any medium, there are good and bad contributors. For example, I would rather pluck out my own eyes than read anything from the Daily Mail. Videos are the same. Find some reliable and expert sources, and avoid any so-called influencers and Tik Tok stuff. The people I watch are not in that category, but are lawyers and political stalwarts with good reputations. I don't watch shit by knobheads like Brand or Bannon etc. I watch people with good channels, and see them as just another media outlet, but not ignoring the stuff that the MSM do. Anyone who just watches traditional news channels is not getting the full picture. I've lost count when watching mainstream channels of the times they have not given the full picture on events that I have already seen by watching these independent producers. Even C4, who I have always trusted as the best news source have blatantly ignored things that I have seen, which alters the picture completely, usually by omission. I'm not convinced it's just a time thing, but of course these video outlets can and do give time to the unfolding events.
 
When people post articles here they often extract a pertinent paragraph or two to give people an idea of the gist of it, to show what point is being made. That isn’t possible with videos.

Not all people :mad:

But yeah, videos can be tricky. Like, do I really need to sit through a 45 minute piece to hear that everything is shit? Am finding even Pakman and Brian Tyler Cohen a bit of a chore these days, despite an average of 9 or 10 mins duration.
 
As with any medium, there are good and bad contributors. For example, I would rather pluck out my own eyes than read anything from the Daily Mail. Videos are the same. Find some reliable and expert sources, and avoid any so-called influencers and Tik Tok stuff. The people I watch are not in that category, but are lawyers and political stalwarts with good reputations. I don't watch shit by knobheads like Brand or Bannon etc. I watch people with good channels, and see them as just another media outlet, but not ignoring the stuff that the MSM do. Anyone who just watches traditional news channels is not getting the full picture. I've lost count when watching mainstream channels of the times they have not given the full picture on events that I have already seen by watching these independent producers. Even C4, who I have always trusted as the best news source have blatantly ignored things that I have seen, which alters the picture completely, usually by omission. I'm not convinced it's just a time thing, but of course these video outlets can and do give time to the unfolding events.
Ok, I tried giving your video a go. I managed 3 minutes out of its 18. Three minutes is already quite a lot to give to something without knowing where it’s going. If it were a written article, you’d get the gist from the opening 50 words alone. But three minutes in, I’m still none the wiser, really, about what point it’s trying to lead up to. So far, it’s just a very overexcited man shouting excitedly about how now the Democrats may possibly only be losing by two seats instead of five seats, or something like that. Not sure what that relates to (ie Senate or Congress) because the details of the US democratic system are about 2000th on my list of things to focus on. And it doesn’t sound a very big deal to me, certainly not as big deal as Mr Overexcited seems to think it is. Losing is still losing, after all. And at that point, I decided that the video had ahead stolen quite enough of my time, thank you. I certainly didn’t see anything to make me think I should start clicking on clickbaity video links in the future.
 
Ok, I tried giving your video a go. I managed 3 minutes out of its 18. Three minutes is already quite a lot to give to something without knowing where it’s going. If it were a written article, you’d get the gist from the opening 50 words alone. But three minutes in, I’m still none the wiser, really, about what point it’s trying to lead up to. So far, it’s just a very overexcited man shouting excitedly about how now the Democrats may possibly only be losing by two seats instead of five seats, or something like that. Not sure what that relates to (ie Senate or Congress) because the details of the US democratic system are about 2000th on my list of things to focus on. And it doesn’t sound a very big deal to me, certainly not as big deal as Mr Overexcited seems to think it is. Losing is still losing, after all. And at that point, I decided that the video had ahead stolen quite enough of my time, thank you. I certainly didn’t see anything to make me think I should start clicking on clickbaity video links in the future.
I'm fine with watching videos in principle. But I've started being recommended a lot of those midas touch ones and the few I have tried have all been crap. I had a look at their channel and they pump out loads each day. So just churning out low effort click bait.
 
Meidas Touch are awful, partisan liberal shite. I saw a few of their videos in the election and Trump's campaign was always on the verge of collapsing; personally in meltdown; in retreat in the polls etc. Also, was the one with the bloke who claimed he shat himself on stage one of theirs? All done with mock sincerity for the failing bowels of the would be president.
 
Meidas Touch are awful, partisan liberal shite. I saw a few of their videos in the election and Trump's campaign was always on the verge of collapsing; personally in meltdown; in retreat in the polls etc. Also, was the one with the bloke who claimed he shat himself on stage one of theirs? All done with mock sincerity for the failing bowels of the would be president.
Reminds me a bit of the Palmer Report which I used to follow on twitter. Crazed daily updates about how "Donald Trump is still going to jail".
 
I see that the old canard of “different types of learner” is being discussed. Not only does that notion of learning and development belong in the bin empirically but it also completely fails to understand the embodied nature of cognition and the (social) construction of knowledge. Knowledge isn’t something that is just handed to us like an object that we take. It’s something we actively construct via interaction with others. And the individual part of that construction takes place using a brain that thinks via simulated action — meaning is literally “sense-making”, as we make sense of things by relating them to our ability to act in the world. You need to draw upon all the ways you act in order to engage with the interactions that produce knowledge. And on the social side of the construction, knowledge is something in constant negotiation. What we know, we know mediated through culture. To learn, we have to engage with that culture in the place that it is found, which also takes place across the senses.

So, in summary, the idea of different types of learning is both disembodied and asocial. It creates a mind-body duality that is neither philosophically nor empirically supported.
 
although there's sometimes no easy substitute for a video showing how something operates, for example when my desiccant dehumidifier broke and I wanted to know how to fix it. I'm not sure any amount of running through written instructions would have given me the confidence to do a repair. Normally I find written information a lot faster to process.
 
It's akin to a news channel, so produces items regularly, plus podcasts and I think they have a print option or newsletter too. I like them as they broadcast up to the minute, quicker than you would get a written article in a newspaper. It is very much a good medium for up-to-date info.
Some of the people who present these videos are intensely irritating though and I don't like when these things are suddenly interrupted by a begging appeal, a plug for a sponsor or someone pimping their latest book.
 
So you never think ‘this would be even better if I could read it’?
I'm a very good reader as it happens. My chosen profession (librarian) would have been a pretty poor choice, if I didn't have the love of the written word, or the ability to read and take in facts. Maybe my use of vids now is a response to a lifetime of reading. Plus, my eyesight is not great any more, (all that reading), so I see nothing wrong from getting the latest info from vids. If you don't like them, fine, but some of us do. You don't have to be either/or, it is possible to do both, without disparaging those that like this choice.
 
Some of the people who present these videos are intensely irritating though and I don't like when these things are suddenly interrupted by a begging appeal, a plug for a sponsor or someone pimping their latest book.
I agree, there are many contributors I avoid. It's like any other form of media. The ads popping up are annoying, but you can scroll past them. It's only like watching the tv. These outlets need money to survive and thrive. You can also look out for those, like BTC, who don't do ads. People like Glenn Kirschner, who is a renowned former prosecutor, does daily content and has allied with BTC. These are the sorts of people I trust to tell me the truth, and are more up-to-date than filing a piece to be printed in a paper. There are archives, so someone who mentioned not being able to find the info again is wrong. I've often gone back and found something I thought I'd seen from one of the broadcasts, when I need to look something up.

It's just another format to use in this fast-paced world.
 
I agree, there are many contributors I avoid. It's like any other form of media. The ads popping up are annoying, but you can scroll past them. It's only like watching the tv. These outlets need money to survive and thrive. You can also look out for those, like BTC, who don't do ads. People like Glenn Kirschner, who is a renowned former prosecutor, does daily content and has allied with BTC. These are the sorts of people I trust to tell me the truth, and are more up-to-date than filing a piece to be printed in a paper. There are archives, so someone who mentioned not being able to find the info again is wrong. I've often gone back and found something I thought I'd seen from one of the broadcasts, when I need to look something up.

It's just another format to use in this fast-paced world.
It's mostly the ones with annoying voices or who shout at you that I can't be bothered with.
 
Ok, I tried giving your video a go. I managed 3 minutes out of its 18. Three minutes is already quite a lot to give to something without knowing where it’s going. If it were a written article, you’d get the gist from the opening 50 words alone. But three minutes in, I’m still none the wiser, really, about what point it’s trying to lead up to. So far, it’s just a very overexcited man shouting excitedly about how now the Democrats may possibly only be losing by two seats instead of five seats, or something like that. Not sure what that relates to (ie Senate or Congress) because the details of the US democratic system are about 2000th on my list of things to focus on. And it doesn’t sound a very big deal to me, certainly not as big deal as Mr Overexcited seems to think it is. Losing is still losing, after all. And at that point, I decided that the video had ahead stolen quite enough of my time, thank you. I certainly didn’t see anything to make me think I should start clicking on clickbaity video links in the future.
Maybe if you finished the piece, you would understand what Ben was saying?

He was referencing the House, and how the maga speaker Johnson is in trouble. The extremely thin majority has happened unexpectedly, with the Dems making some very unexpected gains. The orange maniac has been tipping some people for jobs for his administration who would be ripped from the House. Basically he is shooting the GQP in the feet, and any illness or death precipitating even one member means they are up shit creek without a paddle. Only a few weeks ago, they were supposedly reigning supreme over the three elements of government. Now we find the orange crook barely won, and the House is on a knife edge. Perhaps we will get the pantomime we got with McCarthy having to have attempts into double figures to finally get the job as Speaker, and who was eventually replaced by this nonentity. It might be time to stock up on popcorn, and hope they crash and burn.
 
Just for shits and giggles, (the supremely talented Randy sums it up beautifully) here is the debacle with McCarthy, that ended in tears for him. Johnson, that nobody who eventually got the position after countless attempts to find someone to replace him with, may soon be facing the same problems. We can only hope. Hakeem Jeffries would be a much more competent Speaker.

 
Maybe if you finished the piece, you would understand what Ben was saying?

He was referencing the House, and how the maga speaker Johnson is in trouble. The extremely thin majority has happened unexpectedly, with the Dems making some very unexpected gains. The orange maniac has been tipping some people for jobs for his administration who would be ripped from the House. Basically he is shooting the GQP in the feet, and any illness or death precipitating even one member means they are up shit creek without a paddle. Only a few weeks ago, they were supposedly reigning supreme over the three elements of government. Now we find the orange crook barely won, and the House is on a knife edge. Perhaps we will get the pantomime we got with McCarthy having to have attempts into double figures to finally get the job as Speaker, and who was eventually replaced by this nonentity. It might be time to stock up on popcorn, and hope they crash and burn.
And all those other videos you’ve posted with the click bait titles about how THIS TIME Trump is definitely FINISHED — they all panned out for you as reliable, right?
 
And all those other videos you’ve posted with the click bait titles about how THIS TIME Trump is definitely FINISHED — they all panned out for you as reliable, right?
What are you talking about? Hyperbole overload from you there.
 
Well, it's not compulsory, as I keep pointing out. If you don't want to watch, don't. If you do, do. For fucks sake, what is so difficult to understand here?
It’s not that hard for you to not read all the posts pointing out how shit the videos are, either. You posted the video up — and all the rest — and now it’s getting commented on. What is so difficult to understand here?
 
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