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[Yossarian]

Pelosi bears some of the blame for that as well, there was no need for that impeachment to be rushed - if they'd waited until he left office he could have been done then.

She already had all the votes she needed in the House, I think it was the right call to try and move forward as quickly as possible while the Republican senators whose votes would make the difference were still angry enough to defy Trump, if it had gone to the chamber a few months later I don't think as many as seven of them would have voted for impeachment

 

[Nylock]

Plus, it's too open a question as to whether a former president could be impeached and then tried by the senate. Going after him whilst in office was the only way to guarantee that the impeachment case would be heard at all and not tied up in endless litigation as what was likely to happen when he returned to being a private citizen.

 

[DaveCinzano]

So much loon energy in this one. I'm welling up here at its madness. Beautifully deranged.

Did no one else zoom in?

 

[Ax^]

Yeah, that said, if Boris had refused to concede an election and then roused a mob to storm parliament, the Mail, Sun, Telegraph and Express would probably still have backed him for a political return.

tbf if he ask mad nads to storm number 10 she probably still do it to this day

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Was going to say I'm not sure what raped "digitally" means

I was going to make ITIHTM joke but I got too depressed about reality.

Then I googled trump rule 34 and feel less depressed.

 

[NoXion]

I googled trump rule 34

I hope for your sake that the experience was not too mentally scarring.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I hope for your sake that the experience was not too mentally scarring.

 

[Cloo]

So, the 14th Amendment of the consitution is interesting:

“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”

According to this article holy shit, these Federalist Society lawyers want to 14th Amendment the fuck out of Donald Trump this could open the doors to some state legislatures disqualifying Trump as a candidate in their state.

Although I think we know too well by now that none of these 'coulds' lead anywhere sadly.

 

[WouldBe]

So, the 14th Amendment of the consitution is interesting:



According to this article holy shit, these Federalist Society lawyers want to 14th Amendment the fuck out of Donald Trump this could open the doors to some state legislatures disqualifying Trump as a candidate in their state.

Although I think we know too well by now that none of these 'coulds' lead anywhere sadly.

Also, if I've read it right, congress can overturn it.

 

[petee]

So, the 14th Amendment of the consitution is interesting:



According to this article holy shit, these Federalist Society lawyers want to 14th Amendment the fuck out of Donald Trump this could open the doors to some state legislatures disqualifying Trump as a candidate in their state.

Although I think we know too well by now that none of these 'coulds' lead anywhere sadly.

this is making very big waves over here.

 

[moochedit]

Also, if I've read it right, congress can overturn it.

If i've read it right then his supporters would need to get two thirds in both houses which is a high bar.

 

[stavros]

So, the 14th Amendment of the consitution is interesting:



According to this article holy shit, these Federalist Society lawyers want to 14th Amendment the fuck out of Donald Trump this could open the doors to some state legislatures disqualifying Trump as a candidate in their state.

Although I think we know too well by now that none of these 'coulds' lead anywhere sadly.

Wouldn't the only states that do that be the ones that he hasn't got a hope in hell in anyway? E.g. New York, Massachusetts, etc?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

If i've read it right then his supporters would need to get two thirds in both houses which is a high bar.

It's an impossibility isn't it. The way it is now if half of them voted that the sky was blue the other half would vote it was pink out of spite. There wouldn't be a two thirds majority for anything.

Not that I think anything will come of it but if it did the congressional vote wouldn't be his route out.

 

[teqniq]

Heh:

Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump’s team is behind voting system breach

 

[krtek a houby]

Heh:

Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump’s team is behind voting system breach

Tbf, Trump did say there would be a lot of fraud in the election

 

[two sheds]

Keep going donny

 

[not-bono-ever]

He wants to go down obvs. Messiah complex

 

[Kaka Tim]

Prick can't help himself. If he keeps it up will they actually chuck him in the slamer?

 

[not-bono-ever]

He’s doing this for us ( well for Americans anyway)

 

[teqniq]

This little gem has appeared:

 

[krtek a houby]

This little gem has appeared:

Let nobody have any doubts about what kind of person he is.

 

[Idris2002]

It might have been a good idea for the liberal faction of the oligarchy to say to Trump, "look we'll quietly drop the charges so long as you quietly agree to fuck off and never come back". Probably too late for that now, though.

 

[krtek a houby]

It might have been a good idea for the liberal faction of the oligarchy to say to Trump, "look we'll quietly drop the charges so long as you quietly agree to fuck off and never come back". Probably too late for that now, though.

Genie out of the bottle and all that

 

[skyscraper101]

How does this all play out? Any predictions? Most observers reckon he won't go to jail.

 

[Nylock]

Considering his age and the sentences involved, if he does get sent down then it's highly likely that he will die in prison.

 

[emanymton]

How does this all play out? Any predictions? Most observers reckon he won't go to jail.

Not a chance he will see jail. Some sort of bargin at some point. Or he just gets found not guilty.

 

[petee]

This little gem has appeared:

another gem

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/19/politics/laura-loomer-donald-trump-florida/index.html

even jewish groups don't like her

ADL slams 'disgusting' Laura Loomer ad using Holocaust imagery to attack Jewish opponent over BLM support

***

www.haaretz.com

she lost btw.

 

[LDC]

How does this all play out? Any predictions? Most observers reckon he won't go to jail.

I'm not sure but I don't see any good outcomes at this stage. I think...

1) If he gets guilty and goes to jail (highly unlikely) it will galvanise his supporters in the lead-up to the election with the risks that entails.
2) If he gets some variety of guilty and doesn't go to jail he'll be free to crow loudly and publically in the lead-up to the election.
3) If he gets a not guilty he'll crow loudly and publically in the lead-up to the election that the Deep State failed and now vote for him.

I'd say 2) and 3) are the most likely, maybe 3) nudges ahead, maybe after a mistrial/abandonment due to external pressures on the process.

Basically it's a fucking mess and 2024 is going to be a bit of a car crash in the US around this and electoral politics.

 

[Ax^]

This little gem has appeared:

special as he had more Botox than any living person alive


not to only have a go at her look she a darkly horrible human being who being spread the same line of bullshit as Alex Jones

 

[petee]

It might have been a good idea for the liberal faction of the oligarchy to say to Trump, "look we'll quietly drop the charges so long as you quietly agree to fuck off and never come back". Probably too late for that now, though.

unfortunately a non-starter, the basic fact about him is that he's a narcissist and can't not keep himself in the spotlight. he won't do anything anybody wants. he won't even pledge to support the GOP nominee if it's not him.
the major outlets are culpable, i've had to change my settings as, for example, yahoo news puts him on their front page every day (i have yahoo email accounts (still)).