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[cupid_stunt]

Justice Dept. has unsealed Smith's evidence for the J6 trial:
Initial report
Some extra detail
Additional analysis

If he loses the election and can't pardon himself, he's so fucked (along with a raft of co-conspirators)...

Trump is not a happy bunny, apparently he went on an auto-rant, on Truth Social, and then on News Nation.

Trump Is Absolutely Fuming Over the Release of Bombshell Doc

The former president took to Truth Social to vent his anger over the release of documents filed by Special Counsel Jack Smith, then went straight to the press.

www.thedailybeast.com

In his first response to the documents, the former president wrote: “The release of this falsehood-ridden, Unconstitutional, J6 brief immediately following Tim Walz’s disastrous Debate performance, and 33 days before the Most Important Election in the History of our Country, is another obvious attempt by the Harris-Biden regime to undermine and Weaponize American Democracy, and INTERFERE IN THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.”

“Deranged Jack Smith, the hand picked Prosecutor of the Harris-Biden DOJ, and Washington, D.C. based Radical Left Democrats, are HELL BENT on continuing to Weaponize the Justice Department in an attempt to cling to power.”

Trump claimed his name is “dominating the Election cycle” and “leading in the Polls,” claiming the “Radical Democrats throughout the Deep State are totally ‘freaking out,’” without saying who he was quoting. “This entire case is a Partisan, Unconstitutional, Witch Hunt, that should be dismissed, entirely, just like the Florida case was dismissed!”

Trump then accused the Democratic party of being “guilty of the Worst Election Interference in American History” and of “Weaponizing the Justice Department against me because they know I am WINNING, and they are desperate to prop up their failing Candidate, Kamala Harris.”

He then raged against the Department of Justice and claimed in another post, “I didn’t rig the 2020 Election, they did!”

A proper meltdown again.

 

[krtek a houby]

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Always with the exclusives, Fox

 

[xenon]

Was that for me xenon ?

I'm pretty sure I don't know the difference without looking it up.
But I don't think I used either word. My thinking about it is pretty garbled, and it's likely wrong anyway. But it seems plausible to me that someone somewhere is using whatever they can to direct Trumps' nonsense in ways that suit their agenda.

The racism is so much more brazen than it was.

not so much at you more than the sort of critique of Trump's fallacious, nonsensical outbursts. Getting bogged down in showing the inconsistancies and outright falsehood of his team's claims misses the point that it doesn't matter that they're not true. Even the woman towards the end of that clip said as much.

What they're capitilising on is the general feeling of unease a large part of the constitutency feel. The understandable disorientation of living in a late stage Capitlist world, misdirecting that unease, even anger, dispating and confusing it. The dems, but not just them, the problem for centerist minded parties everywhere, is that they don't have any real alternative to offer, no coherant strong message to attract people away from the finger wagging, look it's their fault you have pppor housing, job insecurity, stagnating wages even as GDP increases, types.

 

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Yeah, I added the vid with Glenn Kirschner as he's a former federal prosecutor and knows what he's on about...

The other bit at the end of (I think) his piece was that Trump can't really dispute the evidence because it would mean parading up to 70 republicans into the witness box to testify against him. So all he can do is accept it all and try to argue the toss (that it's covered with presidential immunity for example, even though it isn't) in court after that

 

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[Peter Norf]

Can I just shock you?

 

[VivaE]

Her body language has often shown her utter contempt for him. But this is quite a move.

Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir

Exclusive: ‘I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life,’ former first lady writes in memoir

www.theguardian.com

She should just go the whole hog and call him out as a rapey cunt. But I love her timing here at least considering the reaction she's gonna get.

The rebrand is on.

Book to shill with the knowledge that the trump train is on its last desperate journey and she wants off before it's permanently derailed.

 

[Yossarian]

Her body language has often shown her utter contempt for him. But this is quite a move.

Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir

Exclusive: ‘I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life,’ former first lady writes in memoir

www.theguardian.com

She should just go the whole hog and call him out as a rapey cunt. But I love her timing here at least considering the reaction she's gonna get.

I think this might be less of a 'fuck you' to Trump and more a move to help defuse the Harris campaign's strongest line of attack against Trump, Trump himself has said in recent days that he would never bring in a national abortion ban - his campaign's probably gambling that the hardcore anti-abortion rights people would never vote for Harris in any case, I hope it backfires and enough of them stay home to make a difference

 

[imposs1904]

What a classy guy scumbag:

 

[VivaE]

I think this might be less of a 'fuck you' to Trump and more a move to help defuse the Harris campaign's strongest line of attack against Trump, Trump himself has said in recent days that he would never bring in a national abortion ban - his campaign's probably gambling that the hardcore anti-abortion rights people would never vote for Harris in any case, I hope it backfires and enough of them stay home to make a difference

The idea that Melania - a woman who demands payment for her presence at any Repub gathering and whose history shows she cares only about herself - might be doing something to help her husband's campaign rings about as true as trump suddenly claiming he's pro-women's right to decide.

 

[frogwoman]

I think she's just really cold and laying the groundwork for a divorce, he is probably an absolute nightmare to be married to. I hope she has got some decent security sorted out and somewhere to go, because I think he'd be hugely pissed off if she left and ended up costing him the election. An embarrassing divorce is not going to go down well in trump world

 

[cupid_stunt]

I think she's just really cold and laying the groundwork for a divorce, he is probably an absolute nightmare to be married to. I hope she has got some decent security sorted out, because I think he'd be hugely pissed off if she left and ended up costing him the election.

Probably?

 

[VivaE]

What a classy guy scumbag:

My only response to this is that, sickening as it is, it's good that it's out there in the public domain. And that it hopefully filters down to both those who're donating to his GofundME and those desperately waiting for aid.

 

[story]

I suspect they have some kinda of agreement that she stays til such and such an event (e.g after the election, after he retires from politics, after he wins).

Didn’t they renegotiate the prenup? No doubt he put strong caveats and qualifiers around whatever he agreed to.

 

[MickiQ]

The idea that Melania - a woman who demands payment for her presence at any Repub gathering and whose history shows she cares only about herself - might be doing something to help her husband's campaign rings about as true as trump suddenly claiming he's pro-women's right to decide.

Orange Shitgibbon: Do you think you could say something nice for me to help my campaign my darling?
Trophy Wife: Of course honeybuns you know I would do anything for you.
Orange Shitgibbon: luv you
Trophy Wife: luv you more

Nah somehow that really does not ring true, if Melania is saying anything that might conceivably aid his Orangeness then she has been paid a six figure sum to do so.

 

[Nylock]

I think this might be less of a 'fuck you' to Trump and more a move to help defuse the Harris campaign's strongest line of attack against Trump, Trump himself has said in recent days that he would never bring in a national abortion ban - his campaign's probably gambling that the hardcore anti-abortion rights people would never vote for Harris in any case, I hope it backfires and enough of them stay home to make a difference

Yeah, anyone who doesn't think melania isn't at least transactionally in the tank for her husband is fucking deluded.

 

[story]

An outline of what the new post-nup might be like

Melania Trump’s Prenup - HelloPrenup

Between Trump’s potential run in the upcoming election and his legal battles (i.e., that fourth indictment), Melania Trump has decided to renegotiate her prenup with the former president. Vanity Fair sources say that she is taking the attitude of “not my problem” when it comes to her husband’s...

helloprenup.com

 

[VivaE]

I suspect they have some kinda of agreement that she stays til such and such an event (e.g after the election, after he retires from politics, after he wins).

Didn’t they renegotiate the prenup? No doubt he put strong caveats and qualifiers around whatever he agreed to.

^ Or after he's tried and sentenced and jailed.

 

[Petcha]

I think this might be less of a 'fuck you' to Trump and more a move to help defuse the Harris campaign's strongest line of attack against Trump, Trump himself has said in recent days that he would never bring in a national abortion ban - his campaign's probably gambling that the hardcore anti-abortion rights people would never vote for Harris in any case, I hope it backfires and enough of them stay home to make a difference

Well she's also against his approach to immigration according to the leaks coming out of the book today. I don't think she's on his side. As she says, she's an immigrant herself.

You could be right of course but that's giving the Trump campaign quite a lot of credit. I think she really hates him and who could blame her. This book is an odd strategy though.

Regarding child separations, she continues: “While I support strong borders, what was going on at the border was simply unacceptable. I immediately addressed my deep concerns with Donald regarding the family separations, emphasizing the trauma it was causing these families. As a mother myself, I stressed: ‘The government should not be taking children away from their parents.’ I communicated with great clarity … ‘This has to stop.’

Melania Trump says she forced Donald to drop hardline immigration policy

Ex-first lady says she told Trump to stop separating children from parents and addresses jacket controversy in book

www.theguardian.com

 

[Yossarian]

Yeah, anyone who doesn't think melania isn't at least transactionally in the tank for her husband is fucking deluded.

I think if she came out with some tell-all memoir about everything she's seen Trump say and do in the 25 years they've been together, he wouldn't even be able to win an election for 'most popular man named Donald Trump'

 

[Petcha]

I seem to recall rumours she rarely stayed at the White House anyway, preferring NYC most of the time. She probably doesn't fancy another four years in DC.

 

[VivaE]

Yeah, anyone who doesn't think melania isn't at least transactionally in the tank for her husband is fucking deluded.

Oh she's absolutely transactionally engaged but the transactional in 2024 is most definitely not the same transactional that existed in 2016 or 2020. The 2024 model is a whole new world for Melania, one I feel she's very much determined to escape the fallout from.

 

[Santino]

I think if she came out with some tell-all memoir about everything she's seen Trump say and do in the 25 years they've been together, he wouldn't even be able to win an election for 'most popular man named Donald Trump'

I doubt it.

 

[Yossarian]

Tina Peters: "I’m not a criminal, and I don’t deserve to go to a prison where other people committed heinous crimes.”

Judge: 9 years

Former Colorado county clerk Tina Peters sentenced to 9 years for voting data scheme

A former Colorado county clerk has been sentenced to nine years behind bars for leading a scheme to breach voting system data in her county.

apnews.com

 

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You can't arrest me I'm an important Republican Election Interferer that doesn't count

 

[petee]

a graduate of ...

Clayton College of Natural Health - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

so another rightwing/woo crossover.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

realized

Realised

 

[petee]

Realised

labor

 

[Nylock]

Labour