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Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
I'd suggest that you follow prunus ' advice. Or not. Your shout really. However, stupidity alone doesn't explain phenomena like a significant amount of woment being anti-choice for instance...
She also had that 'October Surprise' of James Comey announcing an FBI investigation into alleged corruption and wrongdoing charges which turobocharged Trump's 'crooked Hillary' schtick. Even though they subsequently stated she was clear of all charges prior to voting, it was too late and the damage had been done in critical batleground states. Trump rode that pony all the way to the finish line.
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Bingoman
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Will he keep that promise?Wow, Trump seems to be acknowledging he may actually lose, I don't recall him doing that in pervious elections.
US election: Donald Trump says he probably will not run in 2028 if he loses
For the second time in a week the Republican presidential candidate has acknowledged the prospect of defeat.www.bbc.co.uk
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Not a chance
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
The Tangerine Turd has never kept a promise in his life so he probably won't start now. That said this is probably his last realistic chance. Come 2028 he will 82 (older than Biden now) assuming of course that his heart doesn't give out or Melania doesn't put a pillow over his head.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
He will be 82 by then, could very well be even he knows he is too old for it.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
... and the Feminist card. I recall a few years ago when Megan Kelly was talking about sexual harassment at Fox. She'd hated on Feminists for years on Fox News and then wanted their support when she it suited her.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Yep. I have neighbors and friends I've known most of my life that support him. Its sad what Trumpism has done to the country. Its divided marriages, families, and friends.
story
Changing the facts
The conversations I’ve had with family have been more rancorous than ever before. Even when we were having tricky and even heated conversations about race and racism in the past, I don’t recall this degree of bitterness beneath the words. It’s really upsetting.
ska invita
back on the other side
even if he stands I cant see the Publicans going for Loser Trump for a third defeat..
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Won't matter. It won't be in his hands. Republicans aren't going to choose him again if he loses this year.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Yes, I have a friend who I've known since he was 16. He's a Trump supporter. For a while he was going on about trafficking kids for sex, how evil it was, and how the Democrats were neck deep. When he was in the military, he used to brag about going into port in some countries and hiring young prostitutes. What does he think he was doing then? Since then, he's gotten really religious (raised Catholic). He's really gotten some really fucking awful ideas about women from religion. A while ago he was going on about Taylor Swift. He said that most of her songs were all about choosing the wrong man, and so her opinion shouldn't be listened to. I had to laugh out loud, because he's been married and divorced twice. Just no self-awareness.
At heart, what I think motivates Trump support is a combination of tribalism and white replacement theory.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I've had to put my foot down with some people and make a rule that we can't discuss politics.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
A lot of his rhetoric is a rehash of the American Nazi Party of the 1930s. His father was reputed to have been in attendance at one of their rallies. It's entirely possible his source is his father.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
Him having done it himself (being a paedo using girls who were probably trafficked) is why he's so quick to accuse others of it, really. He did it, and in own opinion of himself he's not even a bad guy, so those people that he already considers bad must be doing it too.
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Changing the facts
I never understood that “never discuss religion or politics” thing until it became a Thing with people I know.
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Changing the facts
The most religious folks (for example my Southern Baptist relatives who have always been very judgemental and weird about certain things) haven’t travelled as great a distance. I mean, they’re pretty much where they’ve always been, not become more extreme. The ones who were previously less extreme (the Methodists) have pretty much joined them. Even though they didn’t align with them before, they do now.
The thing is, the Southern Baptists always had this ersatz “kindness” and “Christian values” thing that allowed them to go around behaving as if they’re kind and gentle, and that hasn’t changed. So actually, they now seem less extreme than the ones who’ve travelled and adopted the more extreme views.
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Changing the facts
I agree that no one is pulling his strings. He’s a loose cannon really.
But I also think there’s more going on behind the scenes, more Machiavellian stuff capitalising on what he’s enabling.
The way Loomer has influenced him is pretty clear. He’s not beyond being swayed, or shunted. It just needs to play to his own tendencies.
(I don’t think Loomer is pulling any levers either. She’s an opportunist, like Scaramouchi is).
And no, he’s not planning for his defeat. That’s not what I meant at all.
I know I keep saying this stuff and it’s not because I’m insisting on anyone agreeing with me, it’s because it seems to me that what I’m saying is not being understood.
He’s like a zombie. He’s not planning and thinking. He has an instinctive obligatory impulse to pursue the goal. There’s very little thinking or planning there. He sets off in pursuit of the scent, like a creature. There’s low cunning. So when I say he’s preparing I don’t mean he’s thinking ahead. I mean that some instinct in him is dimly aware that he may not win (his comments over the last few days also indicate this) and so the goal has subtly shifted. As if the goal, the magnetic compass point, has shifted a little, and so his movements have also shifted towards the new goal.
So…. Not pulling the strings. Pulling the levers. Like a railway line. The direction has shifted, and so he has shifted his direction.
I know this sounds kinda bonkers, but some people will understand what I’m saying.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I used to like discussing politics, religion, nearly anything until people started dressing up politics as "those people over there are evil." It's not even just people with different views anymore. You can't even like certain music or eat certain food, without being branded as "one of them." If you like salad, "you must be a commie who should be wiped out." Maybe I was naive, but I don't remember the genocidal bent things have taken.
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King Biscuit Time
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BBC News - Trump says he will not run again if he loses election
'If you kids don't shut up in the back I'm turning this car around and heading straight to McDonald's '
US election: Donald Trump says he probably will not run in 2028 if he loses
For the second time in a week the Republican presidential candidate has acknowledged the prospect of defeat.
www.bbc.com
'If you kids don't shut up in the back I'm turning this car around and heading straight to McDonald's '
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Excusing people for voting Trump is to me the same as excusing a mentally I'll rapist, that some event or medical condition is responsible for creating a monster doesn't stop me regarding them as a monster.
In the same way that acknowledging negative social pressure and manipulation might be behind someone becoming an idiot or cunt doesn't change my assesment of the end result
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
To add to his misery, the Trump Media share price continues to drop.
Basically if you invested $1000 when it was floated back in March, it would now be worth just $183.48.
Basically if you invested $1000 when it was floated back in March, it would now be worth just $183.48.
Yossarian
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VivaE
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This made me laugh a bit, that Melania point blank refuses to stand by her man without a paycheck. Between using campaign funds to pay his legal bills and his wife (and very likely his moron sons too), it's a wonder there's any money left for actual campaigning. If she weren't so awful, I might even admire her stance. These people give new grim meaning to grift.
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Fucking hell, $237,500 to speak at a fund raiser for her own husband, unbelievable, but I guess grifters need to grift.
VivaE
Well-Known Member
Family values but not as we know them.
Imagine if Harris was using campaign funds for similar? That Doug Emhoff was being paid to attend her rallies and/or speak at rallies? The outrage would be rightly thunderous.
Such a mindfuck, the twisted rule application the MAGAs live by.
Imagine if Harris was using campaign funds for similar? That Doug Emhoff was being paid to attend her rallies and/or speak at rallies? The outrage would be rightly thunderous.
Such a mindfuck, the twisted rule application the MAGAs live by.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I get the impression that theirs is not the happiest of marriages
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Its less a marriage than it is a business transaction. I suppose if that's the only model you have for relationships, it might work well enough for you.
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