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If someone wants to - might it be a bit confusing though with the Trump threads and the Harris thread - wouldn't there be duplication?
 
krtek a houby said:
Which leads us nicely into this

www.theguardian.com

Kamala Harris allies deploy new Trump attack line: he is ‘just plain weird’

Tactic calibrated to resonate with young and independent voters who, polls show, are now more engaged with election
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Tldr?

Trump is weird. Vance is weird. Slowly, ever so slowly, the gloves are coming off, the Democrats need to embrace the knuckle duster now.
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They seem to really hate this line. And someone has done what I thought they ought and made supercut of Trump being weird and undignified:

 
newrepublic.com

Team Trump Panics About His Attacks on Kamala Harris Backfiring

Donald Trump’s allies are worried they “can’t control” him as he attacks Vice President Kamala Harris.
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On Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Trump’s allies believe attacks on Harris’s political record are more effective than personal insults, but “they also worry that Trump and some of his more extreme supporters will be unable to refrain from deploying sexist and racially fraught language, which they fear will hurt him with crucial voting blocs.”

A source “familiar with the Trump campaign’s thinking” who spoke with the Post “on the condition of anonymity to share candid views,” seemed to think that it’s all but inevitable that Trump will make problematic comments toward Harris.
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They know him well :) but my favourite bit
“We hope he doesn’t act like a crazy racist and sexist person, but we can’t control him,” the source said. “There are probably dog whistles and racist and sexist tropes he’ll stumble into. His campaign is going to try to keep him out of that rhetoric, but it’s going to be difficult.”
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krtek a houby said:
Why's Trump, of all people, calling them "perverts"?
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Lincoln Project co-founder John Weaver stepped down in 2021 after it emerged that he had sexually harassed numerous young men and at least one underage boy

John Weaver, a longtime Republican strategist and co-founder of the prominent anti-Trump group the Lincoln Project, has for years sent unsolicited and sexually provocative messages online to young men, often while suggesting he could help them get work in politics, according to interviews with 21 men who received them.

His solicitations included sending messages to a 14-year-old, asking questions about his body while he was still in high school and then more pointed ones after he turned 18.

 
I've seen a few examples now of (I think quite effective for the wavering voter audience) ads portraying GOP and their voters as icky creeps who want to interfere with people's sex lives etc and I wonder if GOP will counter with their own 'woke' grotesques, eg oooooh creepy drag queen who wants to read your little girl a story; fat, ugly, blue haired 'non binary' kindergarten teacher who wants to teach your toddler about 72 genders and other offensive stereotypes. Which may be a positive thing for the Dem vote as it would probably put waverers off them even more,
 
Thought this was interesting - was going to put it in the Trump ridicule thread but here's better I think. The study's by a PhD student, illuminating ...

www.psypost.org

Public display of offensive political products linked to heightened psychopathy

A recent study has uncovered intriguing links between certain dark personality traits and the public display of politically offensive products. As political tensions continue to escalate, this research offers new insights into the underlying motivations behind such provocative behaviors.
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Political tensions in the United States have brought to light a behavior known as “ideological poking.” This term refers to the public display of products that carry messages designed to offend political opponents. Recent research published in the Journal of Research in Personality has found a link between this behavior and one of the so-called Dark Triad personality traits: psychopathy.
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To measure the Dark Triad traits, the researchers used the Dark Triad Dirty Dozen scale. This 12-item scale captures individual differences in these traits through statements such as “I tend to manipulate others to get my way” for Machiavellianism, “I tend to want others to admire me” for narcissism, and “I tend to be unconcerned with the morality of my actions” for psychopathy.

For the ideological poking measure, participants viewed eight bumper stickers with messages insulting political opponents. They were asked to rate their willingness to display each sticker in public using a seven-point scale. The stimuli were adjusted based on the participant’s political orientation to ensure relevance; Republicans saw bumper stickers insulting Democrats and vice versa (e.g. “Trump 2020: Make Liberals Cry Again,” “Against All Enemies; Foreign and Republican.”)
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Participants also rated different types of ideological poking products, such as t-shirts, hats, and buttons, and indicated their willingness to display these products in various contexts, including in front of political ingroup members, outgroup members, and in private.

The findings from both studies revealed a consistent pattern. In the first study, psychopathy was the only Dark Triad trait that significantly predicted the willingness to display offensive political bumper stickers. This suggests that individuals with higher levels of psychopathy are more likely to engage in ideological poking.
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Despite the insightful findings, there are some caveats to consider. For instance, the sample was limited to U.S. residents, raising questions about whether these findings are applicable to other cultural contexts.
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FWIW, I reject the entire ontology of human psychology that this study is built on — a context-free, individualised, atomised, essentialist notion of the human in a positivist reality. It pre-supposes that people have some kind of personal and static interior process that produces particular behaviours for that individual regardless of context, thus completely ignoring the rich social and cultural artefacts through which people make meaning of themselves and others within one context differently to another. It’s an oversimplified model of humanity that helps nobody.
 
I don't have your background in philosophy/psychology so I can't say I understand your objection. And I did idly wonder how someone going round with an Antifa teeshirt for example or 'I didn't vote for the tories' would fit into that research.

But I found it interesting that it called out the idea of walking round proclaiming a message whose main intent is to offend a group of people. Up to the extreme of the many trumpists whose cars or trucks are stuffed full of stickers proclaiming how much they hate Biden or the libs or the gays or any other 'liberal' group. This doesn't display a healthy attitude to me, and seems to show a willingness to physically fight anyone who disagrees.

You have a problem with the method of the study itself? Showing people offensive messages and asking how likely they'd be to wear/display them, then comparing that to particular attitudes that they have?
 
two sheds said:
I don't have your background in philosophy/psychology so I can't say I understand your objection. And I did idly wonder how someone going round with an Antifa teeshirt for example or 'I didn't vote for the tories' would fit into that research.

But I found it interesting that it called out the idea of walking round proclaiming a message whose main intent is to offend a group of people. Up to the extreme of the many trumpists whose cars or trucks are stuffed full of stickers proclaiming how much they hate Biden or the libs or the gays or any other 'liberal' group. This doesn't display a healthy attitude to me, and seems to show a willingness to physically fight anyone who disagrees.

You have a problem with the method of the study itself? Showing people offensive messages and asking how likely they'd be to wear/display them, then comparing that to particular attitudes that they have?
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As I understand it the criticism is that the study assumes a sort of homo-economicus type of person - one who exists as a separate unit from broader society.
 
but surely they'll be sharing characteristics of that group - particularly people who are deliberately trying to offend people they've never met.
 
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