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[two sheds]

fair play



expects to get laughed at


eta: ah I missed all that

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

He is completely taking the piss here. This is a conviction for something that happened before he became president.

It's standard legal wrangling. Sure he did heaps of shit before he became pres, but the conviction included evidence (e.g. sign off of 2015 accounts in 2016/17) which would be covered by presidential immunity - as long as he signed them off in his capacity as President rather than a private citizen and CEO. I suspect the argument will be that others covered the final details and he just put pen to paper because he was busy presidenting, hence everything business related is covered.

You know and I know that Trump is taking the piss (and the Supreme Court just as much) but in strictest legal terms he does now have a case.

 

[chandlerp]

He's not being sentenced for his 34 felony convictions next week now. Fuck it all.

 

[JimW]

am I expected to do a search for that?

It's Rule 34 that Biden could really use here, search for that and his name, you'll be surprised.

 

[bcuster]

Trump sentencing delayed as judge in "hush money" case weighs Supreme Court immunity ruling

Justice Juan Merchan set a new sentencing date of Sept. 18, "if such is still necessary."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Serge Forward]

It's Rule 34 that Biden could really use here, search for that and his name, you'll be surprised.

Not rule 43?

 

[Flavour]

That is fucking amazing, the sentencing delay. He's just won the whole pot. It's all over. This is it.

 

[Pickman's model]

That is fucking amazing, the sentencing delay. He's just won the whole pot. It's all over. This is it.

Why can't Biden use his immunity to order seal team 6 whack trump?

 

[WouldBe]

Trump sentencing delayed as judge in "hush money" case weighs Supreme Court immunity ruling

Justice Juan Merchan set a new sentencing date of Sept. 18, "if such is still necessary."

www.cbsnews.com

I didn't think you could predate laws they only took effect from when passed. So as he was found guilty before the supreme court ruling it doesn't apply.

 

[two sheds]

he'll appeal though presumably

or can he be refused leave to appeal? :hopeful smilie:

 

[Pickman's model]

I didn't think you could predate laws they only took effect from when passed. So as he was found guilty before the supreme court ruling it doesn't apply.

You can have retrospective laws

 

[NoXion]

Why can't Biden use his immunity to order seal team 6 whack trump?

Because establishment Democrats like Biden are fucking blind to what's happening and still think they can win by playing fair. Either that or they're complicit.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I didn't think you could predate laws they only took effect from when passed. So as he was found guilty before the supreme court ruling it doesn't apply.

Technically speaking though the supreme court doesn't pass legislation. There isn't a new law, this is supposedly a ruling on the existing law.

 

[Yossarian]

The Supreme Court ruling applies retroactively, it means Trump is immune from prosecution for the many crimes he committed in office as long as they can be deemed "official acts," I think it also exonerates Nixon for Watergate

 

[tim]

The Supreme Court ruling applies retroactively, it means Trump is immune from prosecution for the many crimes he committed in office as long as they can be deemed "official acts," I think it also exonerates Nixon for Watergate

Tricky Dicky will be very pleased to here that.

 

[Karl Masks]

Biden will just call this malarkey and do nothing because he's pathetic

 

[bcuster]

Michelle Obama would beat Donald Trump, poll finds

Following Joe Biden's presidential debate performance, Democrats have been worried about the odds of winning this November election.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Biden can't have Trump whacked cos as of now ANY instruction the POTUS gives can be scrutinised by the SCOTUS and declared official or not. If Trump gets in it is likely that some will die and others will stand down, allowing him to fill the supreme court with young Trumpsters who'll effectively have a veto on how the country is run in perpetuity. The revolution was televised, many were watching the wrong channel though.

 

[gosub]

Biden can't have Trump whacked cos as of now ANY instruction the POTUS gives can be scrutinised by the SCOTUS and declared official or not. If Trump gets in it is likely that some will die and others will stand down, allowing him to fill the supreme court with young Trumpsters who'll effectively have a veto on how the country is run in perpetuity. The revolution was televised, many were watching the wrong channel though.

What about SCOTUS members having unfortunate accidents?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

What about SCOTUS members having unfortunate accidents?

If Trump's in come November, all to the good for the revolution. Biden won't Putin them cos he's not a fascist dictator.

 

[teqniq]

Why indeed?

Why isn’t the media reporting on Trump’s growing dementia?

The evidence is increasing

robertreich.substack.com

 

[hitmouse]

I think Trump may have gone boat happy:

ETA: Ah, I see the post above actually has a link to an article giving a transcript of his boat happy speech. Still doesn't quite live up to the impact of watching it though.

 

[Flavour]

"We don't eat bacon anymore" is so good, he's a genius

 

[Jeff Robinson]

More evidence indicating that Trump is a nonce sense kinda guy

Dem claims Trump was 'friends' with Epstein and 'pictured with young girls'

A House Democrat claimed on Tuesday that Donald Trump was 'all over' Jeffrey Epstein files in a fiery press conference, alleging that the former president was pictured on a jet with Epstein and 'young girls'

www.themirror.com

 

[_Russ_]

It's Rule 34 that Biden could really use here, search for that and his name, you'll be surprised.

Ball lawfully struck more than once?

 

[Cloo]

I've seen various stuff on line that there's reports of him abusing 12/13 year old girls, but I can't see a clear source for it. Nor, it seems, would it make the blindest difference to a lot of people even if it could be proven to the masses.

But encouragingly there seems to have been a big uptick in Googling Project 2025 which actually could change some people's minds.

 

[Cloo]

Like, OK, I get nothing will change the minds of MAGATs who love Trump because he makes them feel big and scary and gives them permission to be hateful, because to their mind that's what smart, rich, important people do and one day they're gonna be smart, rich important people too, because 'MURCA. Never mind they don't know anyone who's got to be any of those things.

But what I don't get is standard GOP voters who can look at him and go 'Hmm, not ideal, but I suppose he'll do' rather than feeling horror and shame and just voting for the Dems who are, in any way that matters to them and their lives, the fucking same.

 

[ska invita]

I think Trump may have gone boat happy:

ETA: Ah, I see the post above actually has a link to an article giving a transcript of his boat happy speech. Still doesn't quite live up to the impact of watching it though.

I;m listening to some of Knotteds out there 1974 album recommendations and playing Trumps speach over the top of this JUST WORKS

 

[Cloo]

Saw someone making an interesting point that Trump's team are distancing themselves from Project 2025 - yet they also are not condemning it or saying it's a bad thing. Ev-er-y-one should be pushing and pushing them to clarify their position on P2025 and asking why they are acting this way about it.

 

[spring-peeper]

After reading the below article, some one really should step in and help Trump get some medical help. I don't think his ramblings are funny anymore

I can't wait for all of the media coverage of Trump's confusing Tuesday night rally

One thing is clear, Donald Trump isn't fit for the presidency. I hope his campaign can survive all of the media coverage calling for him to step down.

www.usatoday.com