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Eleven Republicans who submitted a document to Congress falsely declaring that Donald Trump beat Joe Biden in Arizona in the 2020 presidential election were charged Wednesday with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, marking the fourth state to bring charges against “fake electors.”

The defendants include the former chair of the Arizona Republican Party, a 2022 U.S. Senate candidate and two sitting state legislators. The grand jury indictment also describes an unindicted co-conspirator who is clearly Trump.

The 11 people who had been nominated to be Arizona’s Republican electors met in Phoenix, Ariz. on Dec. 14, 2020, to sign a certificate saying they were “duly elected and qualified” electors and claiming that Trump carried the state. A one-minute video of the signing ceremony was posted on social media by the Arizona Republican Party at the time. The document was later sent to Congress and the National Archives, where it was ignored.

I wonder if Bankrupt Rudy Giuliani will be hitch-hiking to Phoenix for his court dates
 
SCOTUS Immunity hearing beginning in about 10 minutes:



Will be fairly annoying because the very fact SCOTUS are allowing Trump this appeal, kinda means he's already won. Pricks.
 
Alito seems to have been arguing that Trump not having full immunity would be an unacceptable threat to democracy, because a president accused of crimes might seek unconstitutional means to avoid leaving office.

So, Trump must be allowed to try to subvert the outcome of a presidential election, because otherwise he might be tempted to try to subvert the outcome of a presidential election, which must not be allowed to happen.
 
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Trump going for full despot immunity as a former president


jesus if i was Biden i'd have seal team 6 parked outside his house and send him a note
if you win the kicking in the front door :)
 
More to laugh about -

Judge rejects Trump's bid to throw out costly defamation case​

If you're getting confused with these two cases, we've got some bad news - a third court hearing relating to Trump has been going on. We'll keep it simple with just this post.
A judge has rejected the ex-president's attempt to throw out a defamation verdict against him - which requires the former president to pay a woman $83.3m in damages.
Writer E. Jean Carroll said Trump defamed her after she accused him of raping her decades ago.
The court had said Trump should pay $18.3m (£14.4m) in compensation and $65m (£51m) in punitive damages.
Today, US District Judge Lewis Kaplan said Trump was not entitled to a new trial or judgment as a matter of law.

Live update at 17:31 - Donald Trump court latest: Trump-appointed judge seems to take issue with ex-president's argument in key Supreme Court hearing
 
hmm hopefully even the crooked set up in the Scotus cannot even stand up the the idea
that after 247 years and 46 presidents that one orange fuck knuckle need immunity for leading an insurrection against house of representatives trying to
proceed with the peaceful transition of power to the next elected president
 
Interesting who gets the title "President". Suppose Trump believes he's still Pres (and technically ex PotUS are referred to as Presidents) but if he is still The President and Biden isn't... doesn't that disqualify him from a third term?
I'm not sure what the rules say. Are they that you can't win more than two elections, or that you can't serve more than two terms? In his tiny mind he's aiming to do the former, but hasn't been allowed to serve his deservedly won second term.
 
I'm not sure what the rules say. Are they that you can't win more than two elections, or that you can't serve more than two terms? In his tiny mind he's aiming to do the former, but hasn't been allowed to serve his deservedly won second term.

Section 1​

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

 
Amending that rule would be tricky:
Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
Although maybe the supreme court judges could do some "creative" interpretations of it all :hmm:
 
As a possible VP to a term-limited 78-year-old cheeseburger aficionado, Noem would have had a good shot at becoming president but I think she's blown it now, even a lot of conservatives are condemning her.

And there's a bonus for Biden - if he's criticised, as he deserves to be, for not sending Commander away until Secret Service personnel had been bitten dozens of times, he can say "At least I didn't shoot it in a gravel pit"
 
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