Do you have a clan and do you identify with its motto?

[quimcunx]

I have a terrible memory.

 

[pogofish]

Again I can claim a couple of clans in my lineage but the most prominent one is actually one of the few without a motto.

Probably mainly because it lacked a Victorian "Clan Society" to draft a suitable one - similarly, its Tartan is one of the very few knoown to have existed before the Georgian/Victorian reinvention of the Scottish clan system. Thank fuck!

 

[silverfish]

Isn't most the jock stuff just re imagineered. Was latin big North of the border back way when.

I'm theoretically linked to two scottish clans, both border reavers (sp) No urge to go and buy myself tartan or a big ass broadsword, seems like a harmless bit of nonsense though, mainly picked up by our cousins over the water

 

[weepiper]

4 out of the 6 oldest universities in the uk are in Scotland silverfish. The 'savages' image is unfair

 

[pogofish]

Yes, Latin has prbably a longer history in Scotland compared to England due to its persisting on the Celtic Fringes right through the Dark Ages.

But yes, most of what we think of as the way of the Scottish Clans is the product of Georgian and Victorian romanticisim/reinvention, the reality was very different indeed.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Yes, Latin has prbably a longer history in Scotland compared to England due to its persisting on the Celtic Fringes right through the Dark Ages.

But yes, most of what we think of as the way of the Scottish Clans is the product of Georgian and Victorian romanticisim/reinvention, the reality was very different indeed.

Any recommended reads or watches?

 

[discokermit]

But yes, most of what we think of as the way of the Scottish Clans is the product of Georgian and Victorian romanticisim/reinvention, the reality was very different indeed.

 

[souljacker]

Clan Gunn through my mum apparently, which had a Viking progenitor and is associated with Caithness, Sutherland and Orkney. Motto is 'Aut Pax Aut Bellum' which means 'either peace or war' and the badge is a raised sword in a clenched fist.

I'm a Gunn too. Dad's side of the family are all from Caithness.

 

[silverfish]

4 out of the 6 oldest universities in the uk are in Scotland silverfish. The 'savages' image is unfair

Shrugs shoulders

 

[DotCommunist]

Family name comes from some old irish lot 'McGarvey'

My uncle has done the lineage thing. 'The name McGarvey originally appeared in gaelic as O Gairbhin
derived from the word "garbh" which means "rough" '

sounds about accurate

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I think Urban75 needs its own tartan.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I can hear the arguments now: heavier on the green, or on the red?

 

[DotCommunist]

I use my fathers surname, (obviously) but ma has reverted to the matrilineal McGarvey name

winds her up no end on the phone to companies

'NO! not Mugabe! McGarvey'

 

[chilango]

McDonald of the Isles fwiw.

 

[FiFi]

McDonald - via my Maternal Grandmother.
Apparently my motto is Per Mare Per Terras - By land By Sea.

I'm not really sure how to identify with that.

 

[fishfinger]

No clan, no motto™

 

[twentythreedom]

McDonald - via my Maternal Grandmother.
Apparently my motto is Per Mare Per Terras - By land By Sea.

I'm not really sure how to identify with that.

I thought it was "I'm Lovin It"

 

[FiFi]

I thought it was "I'm Lovin It"

See, now that I could identify with!

 

[Puddy_Tat]

My only Scottish connection is a great-great grandmother, who was an Aird. Her father was born in Straiton, Ayrshire, and she was born in Kirkmichael (although the family emigrated to Canada, and it seems that great-great grandfather was serving in the British army in Canada)

Most sources seem to think there isn't an Aird clan

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Most sources seem to think there isn't an Aird clan

It's a geographical sort of name. Puddy Tat Aird would be something like "Puddy Tat from the high places". Ish, kinda.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

It's a geographical sort of name. Puddy Tat Aird would be something like "Puddy Tat from the high places". Ish, kinda.

Oh, I see.

My own surname is also something geographical rather than specific...

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Oh, I see.

My own surname is also something geographical rather than specific...

There's a bit near the top of Loch Ness that is the Airds as well, so the surname could have come from that too. My own surname is a total son-of-somebody one, and my first name is both a place name, and the name of the clan chiefs. It's not a significant thing really, but I quite like having an unusual name. The only bugbear is having to spell my name in every single phone interaction ever.

 

[DotCommunist]

aird righ is 'high king' tho is it not

so any clan aird would be 'high'

they must have been bang on the belladonna and mushies

 

[Puddy_Tat]

aird righ is 'high king' tho is it not

so any clan aird would be 'high'

they must have been bang on the belladonna and mushies

 

[dessiato]

Mrs D is a Cameron. The motto translates as "Unite".

 

[Santino]

Mrs D is a Cameron. The motto translates as "Unite".

3 letters right at least.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I'm half Scottish, and my mother's family were either Campbells or Hamiltons. Not quite clear as there was a lot of common law marriages in that branch of the family. But her mother came from Campbeltown, and her father was a Hamilton. So I could pick either as both as legally valid!

 

[dessiato]

3 letters right at least.

what?

 

[DotCommunist]

what?

unt. although I think he's refering to our sainted prime minister

 

[weltweit]

Not sure about what clan I belong to but a motto I like is:

One step at a time!