For someone who regularly and self-righteously fulminates about the use of ad hominems, surprised to see you joining the same sweary cohort...and not even particularly inventive. Standards are dropping.Piss off you fucking muppet.
For someone who regularly and self-righteously fulminates about the use of ad hominems, surprised to see you joining the same sweary cohort...and not even particularly inventive. Standards are dropping.Piss off you fucking muppet.
For someone who regularly and self-righteously fulminates about the use of ad hominems, surprised to see you joining the same sweary cohort...and not even particularly inventive. Standards are dropping.
maybe urban needs a 'bollocks' button...
Some of the context behind this development is set out below:Dawn Butler MP closes office
London MP Dawn Butler closes office over race threats
Is this the result of anti-social media, Brexit, populist politics? It's a new low really. What is going on in this country?
“They say that politicians have to be thick-skinned, and they have to be resilient. Why do you have to make excuses for these sick online abusers?”
"The messages about Dawn Butler and Diane Abbott are a visceral reminder of the discrimination black women face in the workplace ..."
"During her 15 year career with the party, serving as member of parliament, Butler said she had faced a significant level of racist abuse throughout. “It’s not at the scale of Diane [Abbott, who receives almost half of all the online abuse sent to female politicians], but there is the N word, black bitch, go home, you’re diseased, you’re ugly. It is deliberate racial hatred, bullying, and intimidation. It got really bad after Brexit and again now since the death of George Floyd.”
Dawn Butler MP closes office
London MP Dawn Butler closes office over race threats
Is this the result of anti-social media, Brexit, populist politics? It's a new low really. What is going on in this country?
They appear to be the vast majority these days. They clearly loiter under their stones until something like this happens, ready to leap out with a 'race card' gif and a reason why she's wrong. Ugh.I can just about remember when Twitter wasn’t full of fucking racists. The comments after her tweet shows there’s still a lot of people who aren’t comfortable with someone black being in a position of power.
I can just about remember when Twitter wasn’t full of fucking racists. The comments after her tweet shows there’s still a lot of people who aren’t comfortable with someone black being in a position of power.
Why is it odd? How are you defining 'white'? The footage shows he is light skinned. There are light skinned black people. Dawn Butler says he is black, I think she would know.Guardian says the driver was black, a lot of the footage seems to show the driver was white. This is very odd.
FOCToo much focus on the admittedly important race issue is hiding a larger divide that exists between the haves and have nots in Society, anyone who has lived in deprived areas knows how disgracefully they are treated by the Police.
The problem is you can't convince some white middle aged, well off person that this problem exists because their experience of policing will be so different and as we all know its largely well off white middle aged men making the rules
Tell us more about the race issue please BolloxToo much focus on the admittedly important race issue is hiding a larger divide that exists between the haves and have nots in Society, anyone who has lived in deprived areas knows how disgracefully they are treated by the Police.
The problem is you can't convince some white middle aged, well off person that this problem exists because their experience of policing will be so different and as we all know its largely well off white middle aged men making the rules
Why is it odd? How are you defining 'white'? The footage shows he is light skinned. There are light skinned black people. Dawn Butler says he is black, I think she would know.
In the footage we can only see that his forearm seems to be light skinned. We can't see his facial features or hair which the police would have seen and might have determined their perception, along with that he was with a black woman.I'm aware of that. But racial profiling in a traffic stop situation would be about perceptions of "race" just as much as self identification and if the people seeing the footage think the driver is white, they perceive the driver as white, what extra information do the policy have. Why would their perception be different?
Politest policeman in the fucking world there.
I was just to about to say this.Why is it odd? How are you defining 'white'? The footage shows he is light skinned. There are light skinned black people. Dawn Butler says he is black, I think she would know.
My son is mixed race and very light skinned but with obvious (to me and other black people) black features. However a lot of white people do not even realise his ethnicity until they meet me.I'm aware of that. But racial profiling in a traffic stop situation would be about perceptions of "race" just as much as self identification and if the people seeing the footage think the driver is white, they perceive the driver as white, what extra information do the policy have. Why would their perception be different?
I also know Dawn, and the abuse she and her staff have had to put up with is quite horrificDawn (she is my MP, and I know her) has been threatened on her way to Westminster on the Jubilee line. Other passengers intervened.
Willesden High Road, the surrounding roads and most of Brent is very diverse. One of the most diverse boroughs in the UK. Fascists keep a low profile, the only ones who openly display their racism are some Polish nazis. They put up some stickers and graffiti, and I occasionally see one wearing their skinhead gear.
I think the Grey Leader did put some on the networksI was just to about to say this.
I have no clue what you mean?I think the Grey Leader did put some on the networks