Dawn Butler MP closes office

[Pickman's model]

Decapitating the Tories better

 

[Sasaferrato]

Defunding the police is not the same as abolishing them.

A service without funds is not a service. Defunding the police is not the answer, getting them to behave like reasonable human beings is the answer, albeit difficult.

I have long thought that for both the police and medicine, a new disciplinary bodies are needed. At the moment, they are marking their own homework. The panel to investigate police wrongdoing should comprise a majority of ordinary citizens, with a lawyer and a senior police person in an advisory role.

 

[krtek a houby]

A service without funds is not a service. Defunding the police is not the answer, getting them to behave like reasonable human beings is the answer, albeit difficult.

I have long thought that for both the police and medicine, a new disciplinary bodies are needed. At the moment, they are marking their own homework. The panel to investigate police wrongdoing should comprise a majority of ordinary citizens, with a lawyer and a senior police person in an advisory role.

Don't trust them. Police look after their own.

 

[Badgers]

Fuck you you fucking dickhead.

The comment was perfectly reasonable, if you abolish the police service, then who will you call when something like this happens.

If The police cannot protect Dawn Butler now, who is going to do so if there is no police service.

Arsehole!

I will call a big hard man like you

 

[Sasaferrato]

I will call a big hard man like you

Piss off you fucking muppet.

 

[tim]

At least she could call the police what happens if BLM get their way and there aren't any?

Fuck off!

 

[krtek a houby]

The British police are the best in the world, I dont believe any of those stories I've heard...

 

[Badgers]

Piss off you fucking muppet.

I love how irrelevant you and your aging Tory type are getting hopefully your time is nearing an end because it is propping up the very worst of the UK

 

[krtek a houby]

Piss off you fucking muppet.

Pissing off muppets is not the answer. A panel is needed.

 

[tim]

And defunding the Tories.

And defenestrating the Tories

 

[Sasaferrato]

I love how irrelevant you and your aging Tory type are getting hopefully your time is nearing an end because it is propping up the very worst of the UK

Are you deaf, or simply terminally thick? I suspect the latter.

 

[Sasaferrato]

And defenestrating the Tories

Hate to bring this up, but the majority was 80. It isn't the Conservative party that is in terminal decline.

 

[Roadkill]

Hate to bring this up, but the majority was 80. It isn't the Conservative party that is in terminal decline.

Its activist base is small, old and declining and it has pitifully small electoral appeal to anyone below pensionable age. Okay, so in reinventing itself as an English nationalist cult it picked up sufficient gammon in the 'red wall' to give itself that majority, but most of them will be dead in a decade, along with most of the rest of its voter base, and then where will it be?

 

[Pickman's model]

Are you deaf, or simply terminally thick? I suspect the latter.

It's really silly to suggest deafness on a forum where we communicate in writing

 

[Badgers]

Its activist base is small, old and declining and it has pitifully small electoral appeal to anyone below pensionable age. Okay, so in reinventing itself as an English nationalist cult it picked up sufficient gammon in the 'red wall' to give itself that majority, but most of them will be dead in a decade, along with most of the rest of its voter base, and then where will it be?

Get rid of the old and thick
Bring in the fat and thick

 

[Pickman's model]

Its activist base is small, old and declining and it has pitifully small electoral appeal to anyone below pensionable age. Okay, so in reinventing itself as an English nationalist cult it picked up sufficient gammon in the 'red wall' to give itself that majority, but most of them will be dead in a decade, along with most of the rest of its voter base, and then where will it be?

In office

 

[andysays]

Are you deaf, or simply terminally thick? I suspect the latter.

I'm not sure accusations of hearing impairment work that well when operating in an essentially visual medium like Urban

 

[Pickman's model]

It's really silly to suggest deafness on a forum where we communicate in writing

I'm not sure accusations of hearing impairment work that well when operating in an essential visual medium like Urban

Brilliant minds

 

[Roadkill]

In office

A tory party may be, but I'm far from convinced the Tory party will.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Don't trust them. Police look after their own.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If The police cannot protect Dawn Butler now, who is going to do so if there is no police service.

When there are no police, who will do the things the police don't do?

And you're calling other people stupid. Fucking hell.

 

[Poi E]

Its activist base is small, old and declining and it has pitifully small electoral appeal to anyone below pensionable age. Okay, so in reinventing itself as an English nationalist cult it picked up sufficient gammon in the 'red wall' to give itself that majority, but most of them will be dead in a decade, along with most of the rest of its voter base, and then where will it be?

English nationalism has a long, long way to go before it's beaten and buried.

 

[Roadkill]

English nationalism has a long, long way to go before it's beaten and buried.

Oh definitely. My point was that morphing into UKIP with better funding and infrastructure secured the Tories the support of a demographic that's not long for this world. But nationalism is a cancer that'll need to be battled long after they're gone, that's for sure.

 

[Badgers]

But nationalism is a cancer that'll need to be battled long after they're gone, that's for sure.

I would like to see it being stamped on before they go but if statues and old wars are still important then human rights have no chance.

 

[Badgers]

And defunding the Tories.

Would settle for defunding politics as a whole

 

[Roadkill]

I would like to see it being stamped on before they go but if statues and old wars are still important then human rights have no chance.

Tbf I think old wars are important - just not in the way that the kind of gammon-faced twats who 'protect' statues that should have been dropped in the drink years ago think!

 

[Badgers]

Tbf I think old wars are important - just not in the way that the kind of gammon-faced twats who 'protect' statues that should have been dropped in the drink years ago think!

I think wars should be remembered. Kids should be educated (honestly) about them. They should also be a reminder of why proper dialogue and accountability matters in politics and international relations.

This ongoing glorification of war needs to stop.

 

[Poi E]

The Imperial War Museum doesn't glorify Imperial wars at all. It doesn't even mention them.

More remembering. Less collective amnesia.

 

[Badgers]

The Imperial War Museum doesn't glorify Imperial wars at all. It doesn't even mention them.

More remembering. Less collective amnesia.

Quite right

The VE day shit below can fuck right off

 

[Poi E]

The irony is the army is fucked. Mentally ill and malnorished recruits, record mental health discharges, humiliated in recent wars, poorly equipped, exposed as racist with a brutal racist history of killing and torturing people across the globe. Just right for a fascists to jump in and give them their "pride" back (with more killing of civilians.)