David Icke lecture @ Wembley Arena, October 2012

[southside]

Yes.

No worries

 

[TruXta]

Even jazzz wouldn't fall for that one

 

[southside]

Even jazzz wouldn't fall for that one

I wouldn't know as I seldom come here so it's impossible to know what a loonspud falls for.

 

[ViolentPanda]

To answer this properly would involve reading the bits of this thread I have actually read again - and also the many pages I haven't even looked at. Frankly, I would rather stick pins in my eyes so I will bow out.

Oh go on, please stick pins in your eyes!

Whilst I do not doubt the sincerity of many posters on this thread, I am just left a little uneasy about the amount of over-the-shouldering and drive-by's going on. It reminds me of the abuse detective-boy used to get on occasion (and which I freely indulged in myself).

About 90% 0f the abuse d-b got was reactive, after he'd posted one of his condescending cuss-laced diatribes.

 

[ViolentPanda]

So when Icke says he's the messiah, he's actually.....

...A very naughty boy. Yes.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm not entirely comfortable with people trying to claim that Jazzz is antisemitic. I don't think he is. Icke is though and the problem I have with Jazzz and his ilk is that they swallow his bullshit far too uncritically (which is ironic really because the sheeple apparently swallow the ill defined elite's bullshit too uncritically). In defending Icke they're making excuses for antisemitism and making it easier for even more dangerous antisemites to disguise their bigotry. But that's not antisemitism, it's just idiocy, albeit potentially dangerous idiocy. Personally I think it's a defence mechanism - he's invested far too much time and energy in conspiraloonery to even begin to contemplate the possibility that the sheeple of urban75 might be right. And so he's willing to commit the kind of crimes against logic and evidence we've all become accustomed to.

I've never thought of jazzz as an anti-Semite, merely as the sort of "useful idiot" that sometimes unwittingly furthers the views of anti-Semites.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Can we all agree that Nathaniel Rothschild is an odious creep?

Feeling repugnance for Nat Rothschild's personality, and for what he does to "earn a living" is something I hope that all decent people share.

 

[ViolentPanda]

More like anti-semiotic?

That very nearly worked, didn't it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

WTC was controlled demolition

With nano-thermite, no less.

 

[LiamO]

About 90% 0f the abuse d-b got was reactive, after he'd posted one of his condescending cuss-laced diatribes.

Yeah. I know.

But there were many threads derailed/disrupted by people (myself included on more than a few occasions) just having a pop for the sake of it - and cos he was so easy to wind up. People used to deliberately and lazily misrepresent what he said - which used to bring on his 'Cuntycunt Tourettes' - when they could easily have stuck with the point in hand (it's not as if he did not supply enough ammunition).

I think what I find most objectionable is the over-the-shoulder warriors who generally have little to say but cannot resist joining the hyenas from a safe distance.

It's worthwhile remembering sometimes that the vast majority of readers do not post - they just read. Sometimes I think the pack mentality gets in the way of interesting conversations and indeed of a bit of humanity.

 

[Jazzz]

Well, apart from this Guardian piece along with thousands of other similar articles:

Anti-Zionism is anti-semitism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/29/comment

You are correct, the utter lunacy is rife. I find it a disgusting manipulation. By the same token, one is a hatred of Americans for opposing the USG foreign policy, one is a hatred of Englishmen for opposing our foreign policy... etc.

Crazy.

 

[Jazzz]

double post

 

[Blagsta]

You are correct, the utter lunacy is rife. I find it a disgusting manipulation. By the same token, one is a hatred of Americans for opposing the USG foreign policy, one is a hatred of Englishmen for opposing our foreign policy... etc.

Crazy.

Now about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion...

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Jazzz, are you ever going to give Blagsta an answer?

 

[LiamO]

Jazzz, are you ever going to give Blagsta an answer?

I would have thought it was quite clear, from his consistent ignoring of Blagsta, that he has no intention of engaging with him.

I do not know, but I would be surprised if they do not have some 'history' which would explain Jazzz's reluctance to engage with some individual posters. It's not as if he is generally shy in fighting his corner, is it?

 

[Blagsta]

He's not answering cos there's no answer he can give which would be both internally consistent with his own beliefs and with what is factually known about the origins of the Protocols. I know he's not gonna answer me, which is why I keep asking.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm more worried about this 'White people are from Mars' crap. It's the classic idea of the darker races being more 'in tune' with nature, more 'animalistic', just given a science fiction twist. Jazzz, explain yourself on this, please. It's insulting to champion the cause of a dirty scumcunt white supremacist.

 

[LiamO]

He's not answering cos there's no answer he can give which would be both internally consistent with his own beliefs and with what is factually known about the origins of the Protocols. I know he's not gonna answer me, which is why I keep asking.

Hmm. Unfortunately though - and I have a very mild, passing interest in this thread - you are coming across as a poor man's Jeremy Paxton, a broken record, a stuck CD.

Have you and he had this conversation - or a similar one - elsewhere?

 

[belboid]

a poor man's Jeremy Paxton,

I know this thread has gone off on tangents, but what has water skiing got to do with anything?

 

[Blagsta]

Hmm. Unfortunately though - and I have a very mild, passing interest in this thread - you are coming across as a poor man's Jeremy Paxton, a broken record, a stuck CD.

Have you and he had this conversation - or a similar one - elsewhere?

I don't really care how I come across to you. I enjoy prodding Jazzz as I think he's a far right prick.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I'm more worried about this 'White people are from Mars' crap. It's the classic idea of the darker races being more 'in tune' with nature, more 'animalistic', just given a science fiction twist. Jazzz, explain yourself on this, please. It's insulting to champion the cause of a dirty scumcunt white supremacist.

Apparently if you lock a white man in a room without natural light they revert to mars time. I read it in ikes book.
There is no explanation as to how these mars men got to earth though and why they did not bring any form of technology with them or leave any behind.

 

[editor]

Have you and he had this conversation - or a similar one - elsewhere?

If someone starts a thread on an upcoming event, then it is entirely reasonable for them to be asked questions relevant to that event by other posters - otherwise it becomes more of an advert and less of a discussion.

 

[editor]

Does Icke really think that white men comes from Mars? Surely not.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

"all White humans are from mars"

He has really said this? Jazzz get a fucking grip. If he really said this, if he is really claiming that different races have different origins like this, then he is not only a loon but he is a nasty racist loon. You insult everyone on here who knows you by pushing the ideas of a racist.

Does Icke really think that white men comes from Mars? Surely not.

To be fair he says whites are from mars but he also says that all humans were seeded by the lizard men (who came from space but also from the inner earth and other dimensions, who left the planet but didn't), even though he says this happened before the mars people got here. He says a lot of shit with nothing to back it up that doesn't even add up on it's own internal logic.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No, I'm not going to be fair on this one. It is the classic 'whites are less like animals than blacks' shit. This is straight out of the 19th century.

 

[TruXta]

Where did black people come from?

 

[editor]

And where do mixed race people come from? The asteroid belt? Meteors?

 

[Orang Utan]

Funnily enough, I've only met one diehard Icke-head and he was black. His name was Zoltan and he carried a funny stick.

 

[DotCommunist]

 

[xes]

the aliens seeding the earth isn't an Icke theory btw, he may have jumped on the bandwagon, but IIRC, the first one to publicise it was Robert Morning Sky. (the terra papers)