David Icke lecture @ Wembley Arena, October 2012

[Orang Utan]

I never paid attention to the 9/11 threads, so what does Jazz believe happened on the day some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into some big buildings in America? Holographic planes are oft-mentioned here. Is that a genuine belief?

 

[TruXta]

On his part? Dunno, but it's definitely a "serious" loonspud belief.

 

[Orang Utan]

jesusfuck! i thought it was a U75 satirical exaggeration

 

[two sheds]

*Could* be true

 

[frogwoman]

yeah - jazzz isn't an anti-semite i don't think. doesn't mean icke isn't though.

 

[TruXta]

jesusfuck! i thought it was a U75 satirical exaggeration

Fuck no, much worse has been put forward by the likes of conspiraloons.

 

[DotCommunist]

WTC was controlled demolition and holographic planes, but the one that hit the pentagon was actually a ballistic missile with wings added to the wreckage.

cuckoo

 

[two sheds]

WTC was controlled demolition and holographic planes, but the one that hit the pentagon was actually a ballistic missile with wings added to the wreckage.

cuckoo

You weren't there, though. How can you know for sure if you weren't there?

 

[DotCommunist]

I was part of the Mossad team who were present on the day*

*iirc that bits actually true, and it was somewhat embarrasing for both parties to have an undeclared spook cell operating on an allied territory lol

 

[littlebabyjesus]

"all White humans are from mars"

He has really said this? Jazzz get a fucking grip. If he really said this, if he is really claiming that different races have different origins like this, then he is not only a loon but he is a nasty racist loon. You insult everyone on here who knows you by pushing the ideas of a racist.

 

[Blagsta]

I'm not entirely comfortable with people trying to claim that Jazzz is antisemitic. I don't think he is. Icke is though and the problem I have with Jazzz and his ilk is that they swallow his bullshit far too uncritically (which is ironic really because the sheeple apparently swallow the ill defined elite's bullshit too uncritically). In defending Icke they're making excuses for antisemitism and making it easier for even more dangerous antisemites to disguise their bigotry. But that's not antisemitism, it's just idiocy, albeit potentially dangerous idiocy. Personally I think it's a defence mechanism - he's invested far too much time and energy in conspiraloonery to even begin to contemplate the possibility that the sheeple of urban75 might be right. And so he's willing to commit the kind of crimes against logic and evidence we've all become accustomed to.

I used to think that too, but the evidence for Icke's anti-semitism and the anti-semitic ideas that Jazzz promotes has been put to him time and time again. His excuses start to wear a bit thin after a while.

 

[butchersapron]

"all White humans are from mars"

He has really said this? Jazzz get a fucking grip. If he really said this, if he is really claiming that different races have different origins like this, then he is not only a loon but he is a nasty racist loon. You insult everyone on here who knows you by pushing the ideas of a racist.

He has - repeatedly , it's a bedrock of 'the biggest secret'.

 

[London_Calling]

So, haaaaaang on, the moon landings were faked, but white people landing on earth is correct...

 

[rekil]

Fascinatingly, some scientists claim that when white people are immersed in sensory deprivation tanks for long periods, their circadian rhythm has a frequency of 24 hours 40 minutes, which corresponds not to the rotational period of the Earth, but of Mars! This is not the case with non-white races who are in tune with the Earth’s rotation.

It's all coming together.

 

[Roadkill]

I never paid attention to the 9/11 threads, so what does Jazz believe happened on the day some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into some big buildings in America? Holographic planes are oft-mentioned here. Is that a genuine belief?

It is on the part of some, but to be fair, Jazzz has said he does not believe it: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/9-11-media-happenings.116208/page-76#post-3898615

 

[butchersapron]

It is on the part of some, but to be fair, Jazzz has said he does not believe it: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/9-11-media-happenings.116208/page-76#post-3898615

To be even fairer, he (or did, he may know have developed his position) does not reject the theory either - preferring the sort of mad refusal that faux pas demonstrated earlier in this thread.

 

[Roadkill]

To be even fairer, he (or did, he may know have developed his position) does not reject the theory either - preferring the sort of mad refusal that faux pas demonstrated earlier in this thread.

Ah, hadn't seen that. Cheers.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I never paid attention to the 9/11 threads, so what does Jazz believe happened on the day some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into some big buildings in America? Holographic planes are oft-mentioned here. Is that a genuine belief?

Get yourself a good drink and settle down with the "9-11 Media Happenings" thread, it's comedy gold.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

I never paid attention to the 9/11 threads, so what does Jazz believe happened on the day some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into some big buildings in America? Holographic planes are oft-mentioned here. Is that a genuine belief?

The vast majority of those who are skeptical about the entire official account and adequacy of the subsequent commission do not have any truck with the hologram planes nonsense. It's a useful distraction, not a million miles tactically from bringing up "granny diggers" in every animal rights debate.

 

[Orang Utan]

The vast majority of those who are skeptical about the entire official account and adequacy of the subsequent commission do not have any truck with the hologram planes nonsense. It's a useful distraction, not a million miles tactically from bringing up "granny diggers" in every animal rights debate.

i take it you are sceptical then. what do you think happened on that day?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Skeptical of the official account and the report? Yes. What happened? I have little idea and am pretty suss about people who claim they do, especially alternative explanations as it happens. Some are more more plausible than others, as are many aspects of official accounts. Overall there is too wide a range of possibilities. Of course what happened before the day is of paramount importance too, not that the Commission necessarily thought so. It really is a matter for another thread.

 

[Orang Utan]

it's sceptical, fella, unless you're a merkin.
that's a bit of a non-answer too.
i saw some planes hit some buildings on the telly. i believe what i saw.
i also believe that the fellas that did it were terrorists who had hijacked passenger planes.
do you agree that this happened?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

it's sceptical, fella, unless you're a merkin.
that's a bit of a non-answer too.
i saw some planes hit some buildings on the telly. i believe what i saw.
i also believe that the fellas that did it were terrorists who had hijacked passenger planes.
do you agree that this happened?

It's not a non answer. You asked me what happened. I don't know, I guess what happened in the build up is more important as my answers to your further question will outline. Have you heard of the Thompson Timeline?

Did planes hit some buildings? Yes. Do I believe it just because it was on TV? Not entirely, but I believe it nonetheless.

Did terrorists hijack the planes? It seems so, though the relationship between terrorists and international intelligence organisations has always been a murky one.

Do you think it matters who funded the operation? The commission didn't.

Neither were many of the terrorists very committed to their supposed "muslim" faith given their predeliction for booze and strip joints.

Now, as I said, it is far too big a topic for this thread. You confess to have not looked into it that much yourself which is fine. But if you think you can goad or tease someone into stating a position you can ridicule, you might have picked the wrong chap on this occasion. If you believe without question that the output of the Commission is full and satisfactory you are as open to the charge of silliness as you might want to put to other people. But you might have to dig a little deeper before you could take a position so confidently. "some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into buildings" is to diminish things rather too much.

 

[Wilf]

So, haaaaaang on, the moon landings were faked, but white people landing on earth is correct...

That's true, though back then they didn't actually have a term for 'white people':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGaueP0Iufo

 

[southside]

What I find with Icke is that some of it sounds quite interesting until the lizard section where he goes in to mad scientist mode.

It's total paranoia and pretty insane and some of the accusations about paedo satanists is well out of order, the fact that people are listening to him in their thousands is worrying, until you see the oddballs they interview at the end of his 2010 mumbo jumbo fest.

Here's one for xes & jazzz......

Type itanimulli.com in to your browser and see where it takes you

 

[TruXta]

Type itanimulli.com in to your browser and see where it takes you

It's been done, and if you bothered to look around you'd know it's a dude with a sense of humour that bought the domain and set it to redirect to the NSA.

 

[southside]

It's been done, and if you bothered to look around you'd know it's a dude with a sense of humour that bought the domain and set it to redirect to the NSA.

Did you have to piss on my fireworks?

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I've only done psychedelics a handful of times, but my understanding is that even the heaviest users aren't guaranteed to lose the plot permanently.

As a former high-dosage LSD enthusiast, I can confirm that it doesn't necessarily turn you into a conspiraloon with no functioning critical faculties.

 

[southside]

As a former high-dosage LSD enthusiast, I can confirm that it doesn't necessarily turn you into a conspiraloon with no functioning critical faculties.

See Syd Barret or Peter Green, skip Paul MaCuntny as the real one died years ago

 

[TruXta]

Did you have to piss on my fireworks?

Yes.