David Icke banned off Facebook

[butchersapron]

Bit of a tangent but one insightful thing I read about how the Leninist bureaucracy works here is that the point of the often fawning and farcical speeches and reports officials make isn't to convince an audience but to show the hierarchy they're willing to set aside any sense of dignity and toe whatever line is given.

It often is to convince an audience, but the audience is the higher ups not the lower downs. You can see this in the hierarchisation(?) of the pro-assad loons (now all over 5g and the virus of course) who all started off fairly evenly but those who got early access to regime/russia sources then took the lead and started off a bidding war between the lower downs to get their seal of approval branding and a move up the ranks.. And we all know that competition tends to lead to going as low as possible as quick as possible. You can see this at play with twitter responses to headbangers like craig murray, fawning, greasy, look at me craig, talk to me craig - sickening stuff. This also demonstrates the circular or enclosed nature of this world - challenges have to come from within and on a basis that doesn't really challenge or the whole thing falls down. That's whey when (if they ever do that is) they move on they move on totally - there's usually complete rejection of that world entire rather than just individual stories.

Well that's part of it for the more high profile ones anyway. The economy of getting attention is right up there for these types too.

 

[keybored]

I'm not the one watching David Icke videos

Or intentionally listening to Avicii.

 

[Marty1]

Or intentionally listening to Avicii.

Avicii was a musical genius you fool

 

[krtek a houby]

Icke is a genius

Avicii was a musical genius you fool

Hmmm

 

[YouSir]

Know one person I actually like who's churning out the Icke shit, good man ime but hangs out with a lot of loons. Not sure how much to argue it tbh, not on Facebook anyway. Replied once, got a load of his anti semite acquaintances saying it was all the Jews.

 

[two sheds]

Yep I've noted this before. If you know someone with slightly dodgy views in one area it's his mates you often need to watch out for.

 

[YouSir]

Yep I've noted this before. If you know someone with slightly dodgy views in one area it's his mates you often need to watch out for.

It's his druggy, PsyTrance mates too I think, proper breeding ground for nonsense. Everyone's an enlightened 'truth seeker'.

 

[Orang Utan]

Avicii was a musical genius you fool

god this is significantly worse than your infamous perversions

 

[Ax^]

It's his druggy, PsyTrance mates too I think, proper breeding ground for nonsense. Everyone's an enlightened 'truth seeker'.

Youtube and facebook have as much to blame as Drugs tbf


Drugs have never made me a racists

 

[Ax^]

TBH are you quite aware of the amount of famous people over the last few years have attempted to blame racism on drugs

Drug use does not cause racism might just cause you to be more open about your own inherent racism

not more

 

[two sheds]

TBH are you quite aware of the amount of famous people over the last few years have attempted to blame racism on drugs

Drug use does not cause racism might just cause you to be more open about your own inherent racism

not more

Aye, alcohol is much more likely to correlate to racism, spouse abuse, violence, murder, errrm errrm ... lots and lots more. (Dutch courage ...)

I was going to say shoplifting but I think that's heroin linked.

 

[Orang Utan]

Booze doesn't cause racism either

 

[Ax^]

was just about to say that


a substance that makes you speak your mind is not going to infected you with thoughts that are not your own


don't know many racists who will take you out and give you a heavy dose of LSD or Vodka

and attempt to convert you

 

[two sheds]

Booze doesn't cause racism either

Yes agreed, particularly with the "either"

 

[souljacker]

I was going to say shoplifting but I think that's heroin linked.

And TV presenting.

 

[two sheds]

The only thing I know about Psytrance comes from Crispy .

 

[bimble]

It’s a long time ago but there was ime a really big overlap between people well into psychedelics and keen on david Icke, this was the era of his early work ‘the truth shall set you free’. Not causal but correlated. There are more things in heaven & earth etc . Someone gave me that book and I lapped it up until I got to the final chapters where the whole rothschild lizard reveal was a bit of a bad trip.

 

[planetgeli]

Taking drugs never made anyone cool but it sure as hell never made anyone a racist either. Given the innate racism of the war on drugs this is all kind of arse about face as far as I'm concerned.

 

[bimble]

This stuff is massively popular amongst people into psychedelics though, or at least it was when I was one of them.
like our friend what’s it 04 up there.
I mean who was the market for this in the late 90s ..

 

[planetgeli]

This stuff is massively popular amongst people into psychedelics though, or at least it was when I was one of them.
like our friend what’s it 04 up there.

I think if you substitute 'people into psychedelics' with some other group of your choice, this becomes an incredibly dodgy sweeping statement to make.

Psytrance came out of Israel btw.

 

[bimble]

Maybe it’s just my experience and people into gardening or economics were / are equally drawn to trippy conspiracy theories but honestly that’s where I met it all the time , so much that it became a big problem and was proper scary more than once (you don’t want to be a jew on mushrooms with someone who suddenly starts talking about the elders of zion etc).
Eta obviously not saying all of them not by a very long way that would just be stupid.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I grew up as part of a really druggy social circle, a big old bunch of us, maybe 70 or 80 all from the same two schools and same four neighbouring parts of town and all within a few years of each other that all started off smoking weed together in the park, at this point ages ranging from 11 - 14, then speed and that and later fuckloads of pills but the main loves being weed and hallucinogenics before it sort of disintegrated and splintered with cocaine in late teens and early 20s, the high achievers fucking off to uni, a few getting into proper crime, a few (all men obv) getting big into being football 'lads', a few of the women having kids and (understandably) putting distance between, a couple dead. This was 90s, very early 00s.

If you look at the politics of this crowd now, I find it interesting that there is a heavy left bias, even though politics wasn't really part of our scene (me and a couple of others were seen as the political ones and piss taken for it) but the real drug casualties are all into conspiracist stuff. Watching that develop too, from what I used to perceive as almost harmless stuff that wasn't really left or right just shite to an increasingly r/w youtube thing - maybe I've just become more aware but I think there has been a shift in the conspiracist stuff to more overtly right wing.

Anyway, I think there is a definite link between the types who get into this shit and the drugheads who never seem to find their way out

 

[xenon]

This stuff is massively popular amongst people into psychedelics though, or at least it was when I was one of them.
like our friend what’s it 04 up there.
I mean who was the market for this in the late 90s ..

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Just fucking hippies innit. Same sort of wankers, different era. New mellenium truth seaking ravers allowed on the internet.

Bet most of them are middle class too.

*Not all hippies or people into psychadelics obbv. But a similar trend of wrongness runs through both cultural group it would seem.

 

[bimble]

Yep several of the people I still vaguely know from back then are lost deep into this stuff. It’s been the end of a few friendships because I’m not up for tolerating it.

 

[phillm]

I saw him at Battersea Arts Centre when he was a real niche to a few hundred idiots including the curious like myself many years ago and then was persuaded by a mate to see him again at the Brixton Academy we fled at the first break after a couple of hours and for a final gobbet of shite saw him at Bestival in the woods a few years back where he got a right old roasting.

Best takedown I've seen of him is this guy and he convincingly argues it's not lizards but Jews and Icke knows exactly what he is doing.

Is David Icke Britain’s Leading Antisemite?

If David Icke is not Britain’s leading antisemite I am yet to come across anybody else who is preaching the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to thousands of bewitched followers in sold-out arenas in…

marlonsolomon.wordpress.com

 

[planetgeli]

I grew up as part of a really druggy social circle, a big old bunch of us, maybe 70 or 80 all from the same two schools and same four neighbouring parts of town and all within a few years of each other that all started off smoking weed together in the park, at this point ages ranging from 11 - 14, then speed and that and later fuckloads of pills but the main loves being weed and hallucinogenics before it sort of disintegrated and splintered with cocaine in late teens and early 20s, the high achievers fucking off to uni, a few getting into proper crime, a few (all men obv) getting big into being football 'lads', a few of the women having kids and (understandably) putting distance between, a couple dead. This was 90s, very early 00s.

If you look at the politics of this crowd now, I find it interesting that there is a heavy left bias, even though politics wasn't really part of our scene (me and a couple of others were seen as the political ones and piss taken for it) but the real drug casualties are all into conspiracist stuff. Watching that develop too, from what I used to perceive as almost harmless stuff that wasn't really left or right just shite to an increasingly r/w youtube thing - maybe I've just become more aware but I think there has been a shift in the conspiracist stuff to more overtly right wing.

Anyway, I think there is a definite link between the types who get into this shit and the drugheads who never seem to find their way out

What's a drug casualty (serious question) or 'drughead who never found their way out'?

Are we only talking specific drugs here? Are long term heroin users susceptible? If not, why not? Is campanula into the Protocols? Me and I think Bahnhof Strasse wouldn't turn down a pill today if it was dove 90s. Do we count?

Hmmm.

 

[bimble]

My experience is only of the prevalence of conspiracist stuff amongst people I met over a decade or so who were massively into psychedelics (acid dmt mushrooms not really e).
Don’t know why you’re so upset about people thinking aloud on this one planetgeli when it’s been clearly spelled out repeatedly that nobody is saying anything idiotic about all people who enjoy or take drugs).

 

[teqniq]

Kicked off youtube as well according to this.

 

[editor]

Kicked off youtube as well according to this.

Doubleplusgood. Now he can pay for his server costs if he wants to peddle his racism and fartloonery.

 

[Ax^]

tbf if you want

I grew up as part of a really druggy social circle, a big old bunch of us, maybe 70 or 80 all from the same two schools and same four neighbouring parts of town and all within a few years of each other that all started off smoking weed together in the park, at this point ages ranging from 11 - 14, then speed and that and later fuckloads of pills but the main loves being weed and hallucinogenics before it sort of disintegrated and splintered with cocaine in late teens and early 20s, the high achievers fucking off to uni, a few getting into proper crime, a few (all men obv) getting big into being football 'lads', a few of the women having kids and (understandably) putting distance between, a couple dead. This was 90s, very early 00s.

If you look at the politics of this crowd now, I find it interesting that there is a heavy left bias, even though politics wasn't really part of our scene (me and a couple of others were seen as the political ones and piss taken for it) but the real drug casualties are all into conspiracist stuff. Watching that develop too, from what I used to perceive as almost harmless stuff that wasn't really left or right just shite to an increasingly r/w youtube thing - maybe I've just become more aware but I think there has been a shift in the conspiracist stuff to more overtly right wing.

Anyway, I think there is a definite link between the types who get into this shit and the drugheads who never seem to find their way out

oddly for me its people with kids who tend to venture down the rabbit hole

"i'm not a racist just trying to protect my kids"