I always find it curious that no matter what the political beliefs of those you talk to, if you express the slightest amount of pessimism everybody starts going on about you supposedly thinking humanity is doomed. Whatever that's supposed to mean; nobody quite makes themselves clear. I've come to the conclusion that coming from the same glib, shallow media-saturated culture (and actually loving what they're spoon-fed), most people in this society think the same and that political differences are cosmetic. Against all the evidence a bright future beckons, whether it's 'the free market' , anarcho-communism or some such, or even the absurdest of all, 'racial nationalism.' And it's actually all very funny.
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I always find it curious that no matter what the political beliefs of those you talk to, if you express the slightest amount of pessimism everybody starts going on about you supposedly thinking humanity is doomed. Whatever that's supposed to mean; nobody quite makes themselves clear. I've come to the conclusion that coming from the same glib, shallow media-saturated culture (and actually loving what they're spoon-fed), most people in this society think the same and that political differences are cosmetic. Against all the evidence a bright future beckons, whether it's 'the free market' , anarcho-communism or some such, or even the absurdest of all, 'racial nationalism.' And it's actually all very funny.
Unless you're under 25, they don't need naming.
So, no actual examples, then? Not even today's "alternative" direct descendents? Awww...
Bah. I hate you, Butler!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Sir Ben of Elton once had a routine about how nobody ever wants to empty the bin and the absurd bin-jenga that goes on as more and more people balance shit on the top rather than empty it. That was the last time he was funny, circa 1987 iirc. Which I probably don't because I was 4 and only saw the routine later in life.
It explains quite a lot now you've said you were only four in 1987.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Names would be handy.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
"Look at the muck in 'ere!"
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
mm, I had you pegged at about late 50's- old enough to have seen the great lurch rightwards etc.
Why? If I name comedians I consider to be unfunny, it isn't the final word on the subject, is it? You want me to do it because you want to argue the toss about something that's purely subjective.
I left schoool at 16 and had been working four years when you were born. Far from lurching rightwards I'm still far to the left of most of the cardboard rebels who hang around sites like these. It's just that most people seem to mistakenly believe you can't be left wing if you see no hope for the human race.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Old enough 'to have seen' not being that yourself ffs. I've read enough of your contributions to see that you are not right wing- you're just very very pessimistic.
And I, on the other hand, find myself amazed that there are still people of your generation who despite the near disappearance of the left's historical project, 'take up the cause.' I genuinely respect that.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
funny and sexy so go pish up a rope posho boy
Edit: misread post.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Good point, overbearingly optimistic people are normally embarrassing
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
So that shining wit Cameron follows up last week's Winner-quoting PM's questions with a phrase from Benny Hill's "Ernie".
Something from Terry Thomas next week will probably end me.
Something from Terry Thomas next week will probably end me.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
IMO, genuinely angry people are funnier than both
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
indeed - i'm talking "gets madly irked at slightest thing wrong" angry
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The Cathars were right
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
you may have only one song to sing, but boy do you sing it loud, long and lustily!
(you do know I've got about as much hair as you have, these days?)
Even pessimists have to 'keep going', you know.
And I bet they have more of a laugh than most optimists.
past caring
The Cathars were right
you may have only one song to sing, but boy do you sing it loud, long and lustily!
(you do know I've got about as much hair as you have, these days?)
You should do what I did and go for a rabbit tattoo.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
And you would know.
I'm not that pessimistic though. I'm not pessimistic enough not to fight back. Fuck it it perhaps won't do any good but we have to show some sort of oppostion.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
intriguing.....
And you would know.
I'm not that pessimistic though. I'm not pessimistic enough not to fight back. Fuck it it perhaps won't do any good but we have to show some sort of oppostion.
It isn't something exclusively tied to left wing politics. Given the inevitable failure of everything to live up to expectations, there will be plenty of neo-cons/neo-liberals, fascists etc etc who have ended up disappointed at the results of their endeavours, and a few wiser ones who just knew that disappointment was inevitable.
If it's any comfort, with hindsight even experiences which were thoroughly shite at the time can start to appear like good times.
It's the way it is, suckers.
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