Proper Tidy
Arsed
"All he seems to have done is spanked a few bare bottoms" doesn't sound like a flat denial to me.
Neither does not pursuing legal action when national publications explicitly accuse you of noncery.
Cyril Smith dies
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"All he seems to have done is spanked a few bare bottoms" doesn't sound like a flat denial to me.
Neither does not pursuing legal action when national publications explicitly accuse you of noncery.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Jesus.
The child abuse allegations are not confirmed.
And he was overweight because of a medical condition, not cos he ate too much.
Absolute bollocks. If he had eaten less would he have kept the same weight? even with a thyroid complaint you can not choose not to stuff your face.
The man was a a paedo cunt.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
So you know how much he ate then? Are you his doctor, dietician or friend?
Jesus.
The child abuse allegations are not confirmed.
And he was overweight because of a medical condition, not cos he ate too much.
Alrighty what about the spirited defense of Asbestos? Still kills fuck loads to this day and will carry on for years. Obviously the right honourable fat cunt shares were a mere coincidence.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Jesus.
The child abuse allegations are not confirmed.
And he was overweight because of a medical condition, not cos he ate too much.
Seems like some people are poised to spit out their bile, just waiting for a convenient excuse.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Difficult to say. This cunt shares similar proclivities and shape
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-pupils-punished-sexual-motive.html#comments
I suppose you are going to say he is similarly misunderstood? He has got 24 years whereas Cyril was just deemed a "character". Nothing to do with his Political influence of course.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-pupils-punished-sexual-motive.html#comments
I suppose you are going to say he is similarly misunderstood? He has got 24 years whereas Cyril was just deemed a "character". Nothing to do with his Political influence of course.
Tooter
Well-Known Member
Hahah you sound like a nice guy :/
I'm not defending anyone, just saying what i think. I just thought the attacks by people who have read a few articles on the internet were out of order, he made mistakes yes but he did far more good work than bad.
At least i knew him, i was part of that community and i knew the plant and what went on around that time. you however read like a Daily Mail headline, massive over reaction to a subject you know very little about aside from a few links from the internet.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
You seem all too willing to launch to the defence of a fat paedo asbestos loving mill owner. Why?
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
I did wonder how long it would take for the Daily Mail links to come out....
Same article pretty much. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/06/paedophile-headteacher-jailed-21-years
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
That is what happens with paedo's in a community. Plenty of people know them as they insinuate themselves into families and friendship groups on the prowl for potential subjects. It has happened again and again. And when their associates find out they have been lucky enough to have escaped their attention they can not believe that these beasts were capable of what they did.
Tooter
Well-Known Member
You really are a nasty bastard. It's not as simple as that. I know you and others who have spare time and internet access probably love a good old fat paedo bashing session but he wasn't a Peado and he wasn't some big evil corrupt heartless bastard either. There are thousands of people who love and respect the man for the good things he achieved. read some of these comments before you continue to spout your hate, these are from people who actually lived in the areas you are talking about as if you know everything.
http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserver/news/s/1315976_tributes_to_sir_cyril_smith_a_giant_of_politics
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Why are you so keen to attack him (for being fat amongst other things)?
Over 2000 deaths per year from mesothelioma caused by exposure to asbestos, probably twice that amount for lung cancers*.
He defended the industry when he knew of the dangers, its an industry he had shares in. I'd say that he has blood over his chubby cold hands. A lot of blood, thats before we even get the possible noncing.
*Saucy http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causdis/asbfaq.htm#mesothelioma
He defended the industry when he knew of the dangers, its an industry he had shares in. I'd say that he has blood over his chubby cold hands. A lot of blood, thats before we even get the possible noncing.
*Saucy http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causdis/asbfaq.htm#mesothelioma
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
You stated that his 29 stone weight was the result of a medical condition. YOU are the one bending the truth in an attempt to defend him. By doing so you are dismissing the asbestos victims who cough their guts up day after day thanks to his greed.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Innit. I don't get the defence.
The nonce allegations weren't just a bit of tittle-tattle - they were the subject of prolonged national media coverage, with evidence of a cover-up thrown in. Furthermore, Smith did not even attempt to respond to the allegations, let alone contest them. The media reports innuendo all the time, but they do not explicitly label somebody as a sex offender without damning evidence.
Besides that, Smith was anti-working class and proven to have acted in extremely bad faith over asbestos, of all things. It is not 'internet rumours' that Smith put his own financial well being ahead of the workforce in the turners factory in his constituency. Some peoples' representative he was. He was scum. Liberal scum.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Eh? His weight has nothing to do with the asbestos stuff (which i'm not defending).
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Agreed, but how people can defend the man on the (proven) asbestos scandal is beyond me.
I work in the construction industry, like everyone who works in this industry I have lost friends, good friends to asbestos related illnesses.
Of course.
With respect you've no idea what I (or others on this thread) do or how we direct our efforts.
I have tried but failed to find an apology for his defence of asbestos when the dangers were known. If you could please direct me to where I could find it I'd be grateful.
Perhaps but those shares certainly leave him open to attack on those grounds, I very much suspect he was in part motavated by greed.
I don't doubt that and protecting his investment was a happy side affect.
Not that higher price compared to all those who have died and are dying.
I believe it was 2 places that printed it, shame he didnt defend it through the courts, and let us hope you are right.
Whose not got all the facts? Whose not done a little reading?
Tooter
Well-Known Member
Look its easy to pull up links from the internet and condemn him but the whole issue was alot more complicated than it seems.
Yes you are right he did defend the industry but i disagree he did that for financial reasons. Do you think people are stupid? Most of the people that worked there knew the risks, and they continued to work there. We are talking about a whole community here. If that plant would have closed immediately it would have devestated the whole area and the town...T&N are the ones who have blood on their hands.
http://www.spodden-valley.co.uk/Rochdales-Asbestos-X-files-14-03-05.htm
Proper Tidy
Arsed
He was T&N! He owned shares ffs.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
PI
Proper Tidy is right. This defence would hold a lot more if he wasnt a share holder.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Sir Cyril was the figurehead of the community and it was he who absolved his responsibility by continuing to back the asbestos plant in the light of all the evidence. He even went to parliament to back asbestos, and to his death did not accept that what he had done was wrong. Nothing you have said has removed his culpability.
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