butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He might be credible, but where is the prediction!!!
Cypriot bank savers forced to pay towards Euro/IMF bailout
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not-bono-ever
meh
Trends forecaster Gerald Celente predicted this in 2011
Check out the dates, they match up on youtube too. Jump to 4:10 and hear it for yourself
http://www.bullsource.com/gerald-celente-forecasts-bank-holiday-in-2012/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=o8199bduvf8#t=250s
Buy silver crash JP Morgan
EDIT:
Bitcoin looks pretty good too
just so you know, JPM have managed to get a class action for silver market manipulation dropped
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They ain't opening them fuckers tmw. Come back next week. If putin allows it.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Nope, one single base - guess where. Syria.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
There has to be people going hungry by now. Some people live pretty close to the edge food-wise.
coley
Well-Known Member
Apparently they are flying in euros to top up the ATMs but they are emptied within minutes, seems the crisis doesn't merit decent news coverage, wonder why?
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Decent news is hard to come by. It's all about Linsey Lohan and her court date or some irrelevant shit. Any real news gets scrolled along the bottom of the screen so fast that you can't read it.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
It's not just this. They don't want anyone to know any real news. If we did, we'd be hanging people from lamp-posts.
gosub
~#
People don't want to hear real news either, but rather have non taxing stuff to chat about, be it football or what celebs are doing. stops em getting stressed and depressed about things they cannot change. The Budgets of real reporting being cut in relation to celeb and sport is less some diabocal plan by dark overlords and more a response to market forces.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
frightening isn't it?
stuff like this has to be done at 2am and it can only be announced after its been completed - how fucking moronic would you have to be to announce that you were going to skim 10% off the balance of peoples bank accounts, but without putting the legal framework in place?
a bit like your local burglar putting a card through your door telling you that he'll be doing your house over a week on thursday, and then said burglar being surprised to find your house empty save for a large man with a cricket bat....
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
ECB has informed Cyprus that Emergency Liquidity Assistance will end on 25 March (next Monday) unless there is an agreed plan in place.
no link as yet, sorry.
ELA is plane loads of paper €'s being flown in from Germany and others to keep the cash machines working. when it stops, the cash machines stop working.
BBC news is reporting that some Cypriot retailers have stopped accepting Credit and Debit card transactions.
no link as yet, sorry.
ELA is plane loads of paper €'s being flown in from Germany and others to keep the cash machines working. when it stops, the cash machines stop working.
BBC news is reporting that some Cypriot retailers have stopped accepting Credit and Debit card transactions.
Why not just do nothing, and let the money run out and the place "go broke"?
What does this actually mean?
The people will just have to invent some new, real, medium of exchange such as gold coins, or just go back to bartering things for a while.
I want to see what happens instead of these endless funny-money "bailouts" and last-minute compromises. Bring it on. The EU are desperate to avoid anyone leaving the Euro because then they know the game will be up.
Giles..
What does this actually mean?
The people will just have to invent some new, real, medium of exchange such as gold coins, or just go back to bartering things for a while.
I want to see what happens instead of these endless funny-money "bailouts" and last-minute compromises. Bring it on. The EU are desperate to avoid anyone leaving the Euro because then they know the game will be up.
Giles..
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
it will mean - in the case of Cyprus - widespread civil disturbance with, probably, significant violence in a country with a hugely volatile international border and a couple of very, very important British military instalations. should the situation not be resovled its quite likely that Cyprus will leave the EU in a fit of pique and become a client state of Russia, who in addition to hoovering up Cypriot natural gas deposits as collateral for keeping them afloat, will also look to establish a naval base in Cyprus.
regardless of its impact on Cypriots, none of this is good news for either the rest of Europe, or for the UK.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Bring it on? What a stupid post.
An excellent post.
Somebody somewhere is going to have to be the first to announce that the emperor has no clothes, and that all this alleged "money" that we're all so worried about doesn't, you know, actually exist or anything like that.
Mind you, I wouldn't want to be the first to make that particular announcement. But it will come sooner or later, and probably sooner.
Maybe not for the UK or for the EU. But it would be good for Cyprus, very good for Russia, extremely good for Turkey, and thus a decidedly positive sequence of events for the world considered as a whole.
Bring it on.
bi0boy
Power User
When you barter services, the services you owe don't actually exist either. That's kind of the point.
What do you mean?
If by "services" you mean any material actions at all, then obviously they do exist. Unlike this so-called "money" which nobody can ever touch, taste, smell, hear or see, and which therefore does not exist.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
But if money doesn't exist usury doesn't exist either.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
What's the Turkish view on possible increased Russian influence in their back yard? Isn't it hard to square with the Turkish Nato membership? Not kept up on Russo-Turkish relations recently at all.
Lemon Eddy
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At last, a meme I can truly support. For too long internet forums have needed some code phrase to show the poster is talking a pile of crap, and Urban appears to have found one.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
re: barter.
err... no - if you give me three loaves of bread and a bunch of grapes in return for my promise to fix your plumbing problem after i swap one of those loaves of bread for the bits with the bloke in Niccosia, you don't have anything you can touch, taste, see, or feel - you just have my promise that i'll do it.
quite why you think that anything that empowers a kleptocraotic, anti-democratic gangster state is a good thing is completely beyond me - or indeed why you think Cypriots being in hock to that state is also an improvement to the world.
err... no - if you give me three loaves of bread and a bunch of grapes in return for my promise to fix your plumbing problem after i swap one of those loaves of bread for the bits with the bloke in Niccosia, you don't have anything you can touch, taste, see, or feel - you just have my promise that i'll do it.
quite why you think that anything that empowers a kleptocraotic, anti-democratic gangster state is a good thing is completely beyond me - or indeed why you think Cypriots being in hock to that state is also an improvement to the world.
bi0boy
Power User
No one can touch, taste etc the gardening job I owe my neighbour, because it only exists in our minds, or on my excel spreadsheet. But that's not important because all that matters is we both know I owe him something. We don't need any lumps of gold to make that debt more real.
Turkey would not welcome increased Russian influence in Cyprus.
What Turkey would welcome is increased Turkish influence in Cyprus.
This is what you would call a golden opportunity for them.
Do we now?
What if you tell your neighbor to stick the gardening job you supposedly "owe" him up his bum?
What then, pray tell?
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
Oh, I thought you were responding to the scenario that Cyprus becomes a Russian client state. What moves do you think Turkey will take to move in on Cyprus now? And is there any sign in Turkish public opinion that they see Russian interests in Cyprus' banks and gas fields as a threat?
Yep. And that promise ain't worth the paper it ain't printed on.
Look, it's much simpler than you think. Money is not a physical phenomenon. It is a metaphysical phenomenon. Money is not a natural phenomenon. It is a supernatural phenomenon.
And the really useful thing about metaphysical and supernatural phenomena is.... they don't exist.
Bring it on.
bi0boy
Power User
That's no different to me telling him I threw the gold bar he lent me down the drain because I considered it to be a useless lump of metal.
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