Croydon - nightlife, accommodation, things to do and general chat
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Puddy_Tat
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those regions are bloody daft - Lewisham as part of the same region as Redbridge and Waltham Forest?
Postal boundaries never fully aligned with administrative boundaries. The London postal district includes places like East / West Ham, Leyton, Walthamstow, which were in Essex until 1965, and the W / NW / N postal areas stretch quite a long way outside the old (1889) county of London in to what was then Middlesex.
As an aside, the London telephone district is different as well - there's a few bits of the current Croydon Borough that are outside the 020 area, and a few bits elsewhere that are outside the current Greater London area but have 020 numbers.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
It was the 5th anniversary of the tram crash last week.
www.mylondon.news
Croydon tram crash families say anniversary is 'very difficult' after inquest
The anniversary comes after an inquest ruled crash deaths were accidental
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I've just been alerted to some very sad news about Bob's death from earlier this year.Really enjoying everyone's tales of Wandle based walking
The river trails and open spaces have certainly helped my MH over the lockdowns.
Just in case anyone's not already got this/heard of it, here's a link* to Bob Steel's wonderful companion to the Wandle. Invaluable to those who enjoy the river and want to find out more about it's wildlife, industrial history and grand properties. It's very well illustrated and generously supplied with easy to follow map extracts.
River Wandle Companion and Wandle Trail Guide: Amazon.co.uk: Steel, Robert William, Coleman, Derek Alan: 9780957258211: Books
* not an endorsement of this online bookseller
As well as writing this excellent guide to the Wandle, Bob was a Geogo teacher, active in local (Green) politics, cycling and CAMRA.
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"tax payers and residents badly let down".
Oh dear Croydon Council: Fraud probe launched into £67.5m bill
Oh dear Croydon Council: Fraud probe launched into £67.5m bill
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poor Croydon
Croydon: Fears over council bankruptcy as fraud claim made to police
The council has revealed it risks a fresh £73m shortfall while bailout funds remain unconfirmed.
www.bbc.co.uk
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base jumping in Croydon! Skydiver filmed jumping off Croydon IKEA chimney into car park
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Bodes well for less shitty weatherspoons in Croydon though.
Which one is left? I hope it's not that crappy one on George Street. That's the worst. Hate it.
Callie
Pivoting
That is exactly the last one!
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Grrr.
It also takes over half the already narrow high street for its smoking 'garden'. How was that spoons the most desirable?
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I would assume they looked at overall profit. shrug.
Personally, I wouldn't go to any of them.
Although I am sorry when pubs close, I despise Wetherspoons, so can't really shed a tear over this.
Would love it if the people who are trying to save the Skylark could join with the people who were fighting the closure of other pubs in croydon - the glamorgan was one I recall, and the Ship, but there are many more - and find a way of opening a community pub on one of the many closed pub sites.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Oh yes I assumed this was the case, but wondered why this one brought in the most customers. It's visibility the most popular, but it's not exactly far from other weatherspoons and it looks really really shitty. In a location that isn't somewhere I'd enjoy a relaxing drink.
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Wetherspoons closed down the railway in Putney which was in a tremendous location at the junction of two major roads and by the station. They kept the other one open which was
in a much less busy spot. I guess it was something to do with rates or rent that it closed as it could not have been profit.
in a much less busy spot. I guess it was something to do with rates or rent that it closed as it could not have been profit.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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I go down this way more often than I go near the shopping centres these days. I run down there on the way to IKEA and then on to Mitcham then beddington.
Actually, I don't think I go through the shopping centres at all anymore unless I need a pee.
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D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
It is. I never go to Croydon centre anymore if I can help it, despite living and working very close
Prefer to go to Bromley to shop now.
The underpasses have been given over to the homeless, which doesn't bother me, but a lot of colleagues refuse to use them now, taking the long way to cross the road.
Callie
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It's depressing. Probably 1 in 5 shops shut with more on the way out. Westfield has probably shafted a lot of businesses out as they thought it not viable to struggle though.
High Streets cannot survive in their previous incarnation but in Croydon there is nothing to support them limping along.
High Streets cannot survive in their previous incarnation but in Croydon there is nothing to support them limping along.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Centrale never managed to fill it's units before they started to disappear. Units that wanted to stay in that underpass where the greyhound was were kicked out. All the focus has been on Westfield happening, and damn everything else. Anything that had a chance has had it crushed. It has been slowly getting worse ever since I moved here almost 20 years ago. There was so much promise back then, I thought it was only going to improve, but alas, it went in the opposite direction.
Huge amounts of people moving in in all the developments. Goodness knows what they want. Probably just want to be close to the already overloaded train station.
No idea what needs to be done now, I have seen so many new and interesting projects attempted fail. It almost seems like everything that could have been done to kill Croydon has been, as if it was a calculated effort.
I still love Croydon. It has so much green space and woodland to enjoy in an area only 20 minutes from London by train (was only 12/15 when I moved here).
Huge amounts of people moving in in all the developments. Goodness knows what they want. Probably just want to be close to the already overloaded train station.
No idea what needs to be done now, I have seen so many new and interesting projects attempted fail. It almost seems like everything that could have been done to kill Croydon has been, as if it was a calculated effort.
I still love Croydon. It has so much green space and woodland to enjoy in an area only 20 minutes from London by train (was only 12/15 when I moved here).
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Croydon is more than the bit around East Croydon, thankfully, because that central bit is shocking. Yes, lots of building/development going on, but without the core shopping area it’s a mystery as to what’s going to happen there. It’s a mess, to put it mildly.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
In other news, though, I just found out that BAFTA award winner, Joanna Scanlan lives in Croydon.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Proper ghost-town feel throughout most of the CBD, especially the Whitgift. But Marks clings on and I still marvel at the Sanderstead demographic who maintain their loyalty to the Marks food hall by managing to avoid any actual contact with Croydon folk by parking in the Wellesley road Whitgift multi-storey and then quickly shuffling the 100 yards round by the fizzy prawn sandwich bar and (perpetually) closing down suitcase and bag shop. Grab the £12 meal deal + a few trifles, then back to the car without having to meet any real Croydonians! 
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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I'm always worried they will destroy the green areas and woodland.
There are loads of great bits. Mentally quite calming.
Here is a short video of one of my regular round trips.
It's not amazingly interesting because I'm only passing through a couple of woods, (a bit samey and not a show off tour) but you can at least see it's not all brutalist mess. If I did the same size loop in a different direction you would get a VERY different picture.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
When I first moved here, I had no idea how many green spaces there are in Croydon. In fact, I only discovered how extensive these are after lockdown take 1.
We have three lakes in North Croydon, ffs (none of them natural - one a former reservoir feeding the Croydon canal, one a former sewage works, and one a former brick pit), and several ponds, as well as woods galore, and lots of parks.
The centre of Croydon is the pits, and the Council is shit, but Croydon certainly has its pluses.
We have three lakes in North Croydon, ffs (none of them natural - one a former reservoir feeding the Croydon canal, one a former sewage works, and one a former brick pit), and several ponds, as well as woods galore, and lots of parks.
The centre of Croydon is the pits, and the Council is shit, but Croydon certainly has its pluses.
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