Croydon - nightlife, accommodation, things to do and general chat

[D'wards]

I think the London Brighton veteran car run still used the high street after it was closed to most vehicles?

Could be.
The Croydon Carnival still used to go down the High street

 

[pbsmooth]

The woods are full of used condoms if you go at the wrong time (I'm assuming the time I saw tens and tens of used packets was the wrong time, having not walked there that often)

 

[Puddy_Tat]

 

[hash tag]

The flagship building is what became Allders. What was it back then, not Allders surely?

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

The flagship building is what became Allders. What was it back then, not Allders surely?

Says Allders on the building in the picture.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

and

The flagship building is what became Allders. What was it back then, not Allders surely?

according to wikipedia, "The original store was established in 1862 in Croydon by Joshua Allder."

and more about the scala cinema (allders was sort of built round it and eventually absorbed it)

 

[Puddy_Tat]

and as an alternative, have a trolleybus

the 654 trolleybus (broadly today's 157 bus from anerley hill to croydon and 154 bus from croydon to sutton) was converted early from tram to trolleybus because of the ancient trams on the routes (think they were the last open top trams running in London)

the central london - purley tram route would have gone to trolleybuses some time around 1941 if certain events had not interrupted, then after the war, London Transport decided to convert to buses instead.

more croydon area trolleybuses here

 

[hash tag]

Says Allders on the building in the picture.

My tiny phone screen says that, and I get it now. Sad to discover that Allders is that old and that grand when you consider what's happened.

 

[mack]

The flagship building is what became Allders. What was it back then, not Allders surely?

Got busted for shoplifting in Allders in must have been 1984

 

[Kev424242]

Got busted for shoplifting in Allders in must have been 1984

So was my daughter 20 years later

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I have not watched actual telly in months, (can't actually remember when I last did), but today I put it on and decided to watch the simpsons as it was just starting. First advert that comes on is this one . . .



14 years ago I used to live a minutes walk from where the ad begins just off Gloucester Road. The double mental thing is that I have not been in that shop since (and why would I? I live almost 20 minutes walk away now), but this very morning I had to that actual newsagent (Frank Drummond News) to pick up some post that was delivered there from Under Armour.

Crazy coincidence, or has the algorithm listening in on my life in the matrix?

 

[Maggot]

Am organising drinks in Croydon on 6 August. All welcome!

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/sld-oval-tavern-croydon-friday-6-august.375276/

 

[GarveyLives]

Should a Croydon Council 'Senior Social Worker' be circulating images of children being sexually abused?:

'Abhorrent’ Croydon social worker posted indecent video of child in work WhatsApp group

(Source: as stated in image)

58-year old Roy Reid of Catford, a Croydon Council Social Worker, has pleaded guilty at Croydon Crown Court to making indecent photographs of a child and possessing an extreme pornographic image. More extreme and indecent images were found on his phone, including acts involving animals.

Roy Reid has been released on unconditional bail to await sentencing on 23 September 2021.​

 

[hash tag]

Reports are circulating that Westfield is dead and buried and even the planning permission has no lapsed

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I thought that was already a lost cause early last year. It never looked good considering they never managed to fill whitgift or centrale.

 

[hash tag]

Has it come to light again as the planning permission has just lapsed?

 

[TopCat]

Only Church Street is thriving.

 

[brogdale]

Only Church Street is thriving.

And the, ever faithful, London road.

 

[hash tag]

here you go Westfield of the south plan on hold

 

[hash tag]

Croydon's lost station

Croydon Central did exist but never Croydon North?

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Croydon's lost station

Considering the detail (and I like this guy's videos) Im surprised he didn't mention addiscombe station, Spencer halt, etc.

I guess they were too modern??

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

So what's the deal with this referendum on Thursday the 7th of October?
As I understand it some people want a mayor of Croydon to be elected.

I know nothing about what problems this is supposed to fix or if it is just an idea to try and get a tory elected to overrule labour councillors.
It is a good idea to stop corrupt council decisions with the mayor acting more in favour of peoples wishes?
Should the people be able to vote for an overall mayoral leader or does it make more sense for the council to do this? We vote for a political party, and don't have separate prime minister elections.

Nothing has really been presented to me in any meaningful way yet this referendum is less than a month away.

 

[brogdale]

So what's the deal with this referendum on Thursday the 7th of October?
As I understand it some people want a mayor of Croydon to be elected.

I know nothing about what problems this is supposed to fix or if it is just an idea to try and get a tory elected to overrule labour councillors.
It is a good idea to stop corrupt council decisions with the mayor acting more in favour of peoples wishes?
Should the people be able to vote for an overall mayoral leader or does it make more sense for the council to do this? We vote for a political party, and don't have separate prime minister elections.

Nothing has really been presented to me in any meaningful way yet this referendum is less than a month away. View attachment 288761

Residents' "independent' groups, most Tories and some 'dissident' Croydon labour are in favour.

Obviously that makes you suspicious, but with the shit state of the old Newman mafiosa running the show until this year, who can blame them for having a pop?

Will change nothing, obvs.

e2a: Steven Downs has stuff, like this, as usual

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Just been reading a leaflet they posted this afternoon. As you said in your last comment. . . I really can't see how it will make any difference at all. Won't stop anyone being corrupt or more answerable to the public.

Will it? Can it?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Residents' "independent' groups, most Tories and some 'dissident' Croydon labour are in favour.

Obviously that makes you suspicious, but with the shit state of the old Newman mafiosa running the show until this year, who can blame them for having a pop?

Will change nothing, obvs.

e2a: Steven Downs has stuff, like this, as usual

dunno really.

lewisham has a (separately elected rather than ceremonial) mayor who has always been labour (same as council has within last 40+ years)

local tories occasionally say its a waste of money and should be abolished (usually soon after they have lost mayoral election)

 

[hash tag]

A mayor is just a figure head and has little power. It's the CEO and councillors who hold the power. I knew someone who was an alderman in Croydon. Not sure what this is or was and even if the post still exists.

 

[Maggot]

I knew someone who was an alderman in Croydon. Not sure what this is or was and even if the post still exists.

Ceremonial security guard at Allders.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I reckon I'm going to vote no mayor. Seems like a pointless waste of money, and all the info I'm getting seems to heavily suggest it's a largely Tory idea.

 

[Guineveretoo]

A mayor is just a figure head and has little power. It's the CEO and councillors who hold the power. I knew someone who was an alderman in Croydon. Not sure what this is or was and even if the post still exists.

Not when they are directly elected. Directly elected mayors take on the role of leader of the Council and can be pretty powerful/influential.

 

[Guineveretoo]

There are a handful of elected Mayors in London and they’re all Labour.

But, Croydon is a bit of an odd London Borough because the north is staunchly Labour, the south is staunchly Tory and the central bit is marginal.

so, the Council changes hands regularly. Whatever anyone says about the incompetence of the recent Labour administration, they had inherited a Council which was already bankrupt, thanks to the previous Tory administration.

and, the idea for this mayoral election came from a bunch of tories in the South, who think they can wrest control away from Labour by winning an election for the mayor, who will take control of the council.

it’s a bloody mess, frankly, and I reckon it’s going to be very low turnout on 7th. Which might mean all the activists in the south are able to sway the result.