pesh
Well-Known Member
Has your theremin arrived then?I think maybe a lot of people don't like Oasis because they're from up North. Sometimes you have to just face facts... we're better at music.
Critiquing Oasis
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I have one in the corner, but I’ve never touched it.
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Because they've already done that twice.
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Now they're older and richer, I imagine they'll do like the Sex Pistols did when they reformed and see as little as possible of each other on tour by travelling in separate luxury coaches, staying in different hotels and only seeing each other on stage.First few dates will be more popular as there's always a chance they won't be together for the later ones
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
In a 'I can't believe its not butter!' kinda way.
RevolutionSound
Well-Known Member
I think maybe a lot of people don't like Oasis because they're from up North. Sometimes you have to just face facts... we're better at music.
I love loads of bands from Manchester. Just not Oasis (or the bloody Stone Roses)
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
OK so they shamelessly rip off and regurgitate older rock and roll tropes and styles, they admit this themselves. They are not creating something new, just a more bland mish mash of the hits of yonder. Musically I think the turgid shit they churned out and the excuse for doing it was/is as valid as it is for anyone. Anything goes in music. Copy and evolve / devolve. It's just depressing that the public couldn't get enough of that MOR conservative brown sludge they swirled up on the palate. Oasis don't deserve the pedestal they are on, but the people who put them there deserve the uninspiring, tory boy, rugby league, monkey music they got. The misogyny and homophobia just goes to highlight the depressingly luddite angle from which these little boys approached their 'art' . . . . It also reinforces my opinion that they are all five star twats.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Oh god, even worse
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
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Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Menswear could have ruled the world
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
You middle class haters just can't stand music made by working class people for working class people. You can't pretentiously pontificate about meaning and subtext when it's just rock and roll
you've inadvertantly put your finger on why oasis were a bit shit. They were actaully class traitors.
The great tradition of working class rock/pop music - from the beatles and the who to the pistols to sabbath to the specails to the stone roses and the prodigy and bowie and the smiths and the mondays and many many more - was about youth who were looking to expand their horizons, to reject and transcend the narrowness of what society was offering them, to see what else life had to offer - and taking their audience with them on imaginative and creative jouneys.
Oasis were like parody working class - celebrating the narrowness of their imaginations, deriding ideas or orginality as "poncey" or "middle class" (see also Oi Punk) - and this is refelcted in the recationary and retrogressive nature of their music.
TBF - their early stuff (1st album) did have some cracking tunes (i.e half a world away, live forever, supersonic, cigs and alchohol) - but they never develped on it - just plodding away in the same dirgey vein. And even their good stuff is lacking in any imagination or creativeity in their musicality - no subtley, lightness of touch, dynamics or proper fire. Compare with - say - supergrass, or blur or suede.
They made indie guitar rock (as stated above - outsider/missfit music) for people who wanted what they were familiar with and didnt want to be challenged - and became massive off the back of it - and pretty much killed off the genre as a living creative force in the process.
eta - and all of the above is refected in their "blend in down the pub" sense of style as well.
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Ah, you can see Prodigy next ti-oh...
Saw The Prodigy in Brighton last year, was fucking great.
Saw Oasis at Finsbury Park, maybe 2002? Worst gig ever, shit sound, shit crowd, and Liam and Noel could not give the tiniest of fucks. Had comp tickets, still way over-priced.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
sorry to rub it in but - I was at glasto that year - and the prodigy was one of the best gigs Ive ever seen. My mate went to see oasis - and was similarly unimpressed.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Except for oasis, obviously, as they're just shit.I think maybe a lot of people don't like Oasis because they're from up North. Sometimes you have to just face facts... we're better at music.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
The Gallaghers were a pair of Irish lads (the clue is in the name) who were from Mayo. And ya know who else was from Mayo?
I'd say they expanded their horizons quite dramatically, given where they started from.
ska invita
back on the other side
Oasis, class traitors who killed indie... Bastards....
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Good post.
Whilst their ouput was both derivative and dire, even worse was that Oasis actively played along with the stereotyping.
They revelled in playing the role of being what the middle class think the working class are like.
They attracted the petit bourgeois in droves who could dress up and act out like they thought the proles did.
And you are right, whilst actually working class themselves (or at least they were until the one from Ride joined), their contribution wasn't to celebrate, defend or advance working class culture it was to parody it and to reflect the limited middle class understanding of the culture back to the middle class.
ska invita
back on the other side
Maybe they were just being themselves?
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
And on the ride of their lives, enjoying every minute. They could have been quoting Rimbaud and Lacan I am sure, but perhaps they didn’t want to? It was a laugh to them, fuelled by arrogance and drugs. Shrugs shoulders
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I went to see The Prodigy in 1998 in Manchester. I felt like an old man.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I went to see The Prodigy in 1998 in Manchester. I felt like an old man.
At 51 I was one of the youngest there in Brighton last year...
ska invita
back on the other side
Starting a band is a petit booj activity! Self employed, own publishing company etc
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Not sure about the “acting out what working class means to the middle classes” either. I didn’t look down on them. I didn’t see them as a parody. I don’t think they made class a massive part of their mythology tbh, even in their lyrics. But they clearly were working class, and they just spoke for themselves. Half the nation was on the piss and sniff those days and they were just wild expressions of it, and class was just who they were and their background rather than a motive for their rock and roll behaviour.
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
It’s going to be shite - a load of middle-aged buggers drunk on nostalgia and overpriced lager paying top dollar to singalong to NG’s nonsensical doggerel. I’m going to cherish the memories of when their only decent first LP came out and when I saw them in 94/95.
Voley
🐀
Prodigy were the support at Knebworth the night I went. Fucking great they were too.I went to see The Prodigy in 1998 in Manchester. I felt like an old man.
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
Status Quo for the under 60s.
If only that were the case, and all their songs sounded like "Columbia", their debut single.
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