could you speak to a Brexitier?
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mx wcfc
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A lot of lefties did.
The EU is a capitalist inspired bureaucracy that exists to drive down workers' wages, drive up the return to capital and protect big business.
Still not sure why I voted remain tbh.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Alright PT, long time no see.
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
Agree with you about the EU. But the cost of leaving is too big. And the EU isn’t going away so better to be in the tent...
Steel Icarus
maybe I'm a maze
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Any inconvenience to the political class looks pretty temporary and anyway, the Elites can always get more monkeys. There are two flavours in electoral politics for a reason and when the dust settles there will be again.
The Elites are hardly being inconvenienced by Brexit. They can still live anywhere. The politics arising from Brexit it are derisory. The big aim? Independent trade deals across the world with the US opening up the country, in particular the NHS, to even more exploitation of the means of survival. A bonfire of regulation, surging populism a genie out of the bottle. Brexit doesn’t reset the game.
What’s the upside and how likely?
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
The problem is that the opposition to the EU isn’t being led by anti-capitalists, but by libertarian capitalists that find the EU’s managed approach too soft for them. The forthcoming EU directives on tax avoidance seem to be a particular driver, note how many of the Brexit party candidates are linked to the tax avoidance industry or the think tanks they fund.
(Not that it would be wrong to take the opportunity to vote against the EU even if your personal reasons differed from those steering the ship, just be aware where they want us to end up and be ready to oppose them)
FWIW as a low paid agency worker at the time my own wages/conditions improved considerably as a result of the EU working time directive 20 odd years ago. But I recognise the days of a more benign social democratic Europe have long gone.
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
I drive a Honda, I’ve driven Toyota, Ford, Nissan and Vauxhall. I really like my Honda, 126,000 miles on the clock. But fords are the best when they break because Americans love doing DIY vids about them, I could watch those all day. TRUMBBBREXIT
Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Catholic church, Vikings, Romans, King James bible, Arabic, a whole bunch of Indian languages, American TV, and a load of other stuff also messed around with what we know as English today.
As William didn't say, English is a pure as the driven shit but, if you're at your wit's end, just be yourself - everyone else is taken.
With reservations, I'm voting for a far-ish left party that's in favour of bringing that back and then some. And it's probably the last time I'll be able to for a while (becoming Spanish being an option).
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Listen to me please and then do what? The country is completely split and the BP has no manifesto.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Throw milkshakes over them.How do you ever get to understand people’s political views and discuss them and attempt to change their mind if you don’t speak to them
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Sure. The few I know, only some of them come out with dubious statements.
prunus
Tick tock.
Nissan driving remainer. I still speak to the leavers I know, but I don’t speak to them about brexit any more because their arguments in favour have over the past 3 years basically deteriorated to “well it’ll probably be alright they’ll sort it out ok” which just makes me want to shake them and scream “what is it about any part of the last three years that gives you that idea?!?”
However I voted Lib Dem last week so now I can’t talk to myself any more
However I voted Lib Dem last week so now I can’t talk to myself any more
gosub
~#
I have since spoken to the two people I know who voted for the brexit party. Neither are stupid and there is no rhyme nor reason to their argument.
talked to arch remainer Labour activist last night who was trying to make a thing of the Brexit party not publishing a manifesto ahead of the EUro elections....when MEP's don't propose policy.
If he had made it rhyme might have been a less tedious conversation
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Waste of a good beverage!Throw milkshakes over them.
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Books, not bombs
Not to mention the poor cows
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
I have one pal, Alan, that supports Brexit. Really nice guy but doesn't have any interest in politics and is easily seduced by the various Brexit arguments.
He's still our friend, and not treated any differently. Though he does have a new nickname Brexit Alan (or Brexit, for short).
He's still our friend, and not treated any differently. Though he does have a new nickname Brexit Alan (or Brexit, for short).
maomao
普費斯
Old fella in the sauna who is the most coherent right wing person I know (I'm not counting the Tommy twats at work) voted for Farage even though Farage is an arsehole because the Tories have 'forced his hand'. He was very happy that I'd voted Green. Don't think he's ever met someone who's voted Green before. I like being a token lefty.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
It depends .....
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
neither is remain.
Gaia
Urban's Village Idiot
I'm forced to do so - I'm the only Remoaner in my entire family. My parents sub to the Torygraph (I read, but I don't inhale).My father's racism isn't that subconscious, especially when he's with his golf mates (white, all male, aged between 72 and 78. I don't know about any of the others, but my father wants Boris. They're not keen on the gays, either…).
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