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Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
IF the people in charge started doing the right things immediately, we might be able to break the back of this thing in two months. Two fucking horrible months but still. Let things roll along as they are, continue to squander our only advantage by refusing to read the labels on the vaccines, who knows how bad it could get.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Tbh it's just another version of stuff that's already been covered. Also I've lost the link.
Thora
Differently Ethical
I think I read a doctor on twitter saying that the "ward full of children with covid" is likely to be all covid-positive child patients being cohorted on one ward (which makes sense!) - which is slightly different to lots of children catching covid and being admitted to hospital because of it.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Cancer operations face cancellation across London as Covid patients fill hospitals
Exclusive: lifesaving surgery to be postponed in capital as cases top 57,000, while other parts of UK brace for effects of Christmas Day mixing
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep, the stuff they need to do they need to immediately. It's all obvious stuff and they need to err on the side of caution throughout the different bits of the strategy. It goes without saying that they also need to act to protect people affected by a virtual close down of society and economy (vulnerable kids, gig economy workers, cancer patients etc.). I'm so depressed with the whole thing I'm no longer in the mood to even call them cunts.
It's not so much that they are not doing the right things, not just their vile politics, it's more that they lack the dynamism and mind set to pull this off. Total lack of leadership and a dim wittedness that even now stops them seeing where this is going.It's just going to go on and on isn't it?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
There has to be a tipping point. I wonder where it will be.Yep, the stuff they need to do they need to immediately. It's all obvious stuff and they need to err on the side of caution throughout the different bits of the strategy. It goes without saying that they also need to act to protect people affected by a virtual close down of society and economy (vulnerable kids, gig economy workers, cancer patients etc.). I'm so depressed with the whole thing I'm no longer in the mood to even call them cunts.
It's just going to go on and on isn't it?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
out of interest, has eastenders incorporated the virus into their scripts?
ash
Inittogether
Only in a minor way Corrie is doing it better with masks and social distancing
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I really don't know. They knew they'd fucked up badly back at the time of the first lockdown, leaving it week or more too late, but this time I don't know. We've been at the point for some time where even their own scientists have been telling them they need to close the schools to have a chance of containing things. This time next week we'll no doubt have seen more than isolated crises in specific London hospitals and the daily case numbers will be through the roof. But somehow I don't see them going into genuine lockdown in one single step. 'Being led by the science', lol.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
anyone know what the position is about job interviews at the moment?
i have one in the diary for late next week - both employer and my home are in tier 4.
it should have happened before xmas, and i was surprised they were insisting on it being 'in person' then, had to postpone as i was self isolating (test result came back negative but i certainly had some sort of bug)
not quite sure what to say / do if they don't change their mind...
i have one in the diary for late next week - both employer and my home are in tier 4.
it should have happened before xmas, and i was surprised they were insisting on it being 'in person' then, had to postpone as i was self isolating (test result came back negative but i certainly had some sort of bug)
not quite sure what to say / do if they don't change their mind...
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
The tipping point will not be anything about what they do - because they have proven themselves, repeatedly, to be incapable of learning from experience. The tipping point will come when enough people express, in some unavoidable way, their discontent.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
They are rates, not absolute numbers. The rates for the population as a whole are likely to be lower, not higher.
ice-is-forming
I was born naked, shameless & fucking outrageous..
The new strain that's being hyped as coming from the UK. Is it the same as the one Australia is calling the South African strain?
www.brisbanetimes.com.au
First Australian case of more infectious COVID-19 strain found in Queensland
Queensland Health Minister Yvette D'Ath says there is no risk to the general public from the strain, thought to be more contagious, because protocol had been followed.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
This is why Trump's "China virus" sneering was so unhelpful. It doesn't really matter where it originates - you can't use the zero case location as some kind of blame thing.The new strain that's being hyped as coming from the UK. Is it the same as the one Australia is calling the South African strain?
First Australian case of more infectious COVID-19 strain found in Queensland
Queensland Health Minister Yvette D'Ath says there is no risk to the general public from the strain, thought to be more contagious, because protocol had been followed.
I guess sequencing will tell whether the two are the same.
I'm reminded that the 1919 "Spanish" 'flu epidemic actually turned out to have originated in Kansas...
2hats
Dust.
No. Each is a separate, different variant.The new strain that's being hyped as coming from the UK. Is it the same as the one Australia is calling the South African strain?
First Australian case of more infectious COVID-19 strain found in Queensland
Queensland Health Minister Yvette D'Ath says there is no risk to the general public from the strain, thought to be more contagious, because protocol had been followed.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Well in some respects its similar to the second half of March and early April where there was a lot of nervous waiting around to see just how high the hospitalisation peak would end up being once lockdown measures had enough time to make their impact felt in that regard.
Except this time we have not got that sort of lockdown, and are waiting to see what tier 4 measures and school holidays do to the situation in London, the South East and East. And waiting to see if other regions develop the rapid pace seen in the aforementioned regions. And levels already reached are very bad news, so whatever is still to come will sit horribly on top of that. And we also wait to see whatever the effects of Christmas household mixing are.
Totally fucked is therefore still a possibility that is on the table right now. As for the coming months rather than the coming weeks, the timing of things now has more regional variation and when various modelling exercises have been done in regards to new restrictions, new variant of the virus and the regions, the next really grim, intense period for the North comes later. Data/modelling doesnt always get the timing right and only covers certain scenarios so I wait to see for myself what actually happens. January may end being a good guide for quite how bad things can get and what will happen in the subsequent months, both in terms of the virus spread and our response to it.
andysays
Love and solidarity
As far as I know, there's nothing specific about interviews, it's still "work from home if you can, go to work if you can't".
Is the job you're applying for one which you could do from home? If so they're likely to be set up for online meeting, and I'd tell them you would very much prefer to do a remote interview.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
RCPCH statement on the virus in kids stuff here
www.rcpch.ac.uk
Short version: kids are still mostly fine, even with this new variant.
RCPCH responds to media reports of increased admissions of children and young people with COVID-19
Our President and members respond to media reports of COVID admissions among children.
Short version: kids are still mostly fine, even with this new variant.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The adults around them; mostly not.RCPCH statement on the virus in kids stuff here
RCPCH responds to media reports of increased admissions of children and young people with COVID-19
Our President and members respond to media reports of COVID admissions among children.
Short version: kids are still mostly fine, even with this new variant.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Yep, some people seem to struggle that.
In a zoom meeting 3 weeks after coming out of the last national lockdown, I expressed the view we (Worthing) were going into a regional or national lockdown soon, probably on Boxing Day or the first week in January at the latest, because the cases here were doubling each week. I was surprised that over half of the people thought I was over egging things, because our numbers were so low.
We went from 25 - 50 -100 - 200 - 400+ cases per 100k in just 4 weeks, and ended-up in tier 4, basically a lockdown, on Boxing Day. Our hospital trust went from having 25 cases to 96 in 4 weeks, 20% more than the peak in April.
This was one of those occasion where I wish I had actually been wrong.
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Johnny Doe
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At my wit's end. Latest message from a family member linking to this and obviously, because I'm don't want to discuss it, I've just fallen for the state hype. And the bloke isn't a crank, he's just made enough money to be able to whistleblow in an industry, where no-one else will
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Callie
Pivoting
Fuck me I've just (stupidly) read a Twitter thread off of that link where they are questioning a sudden up swing in cases across Scotland. Loads of people chipping in as the why this might be (changes in testing procedure, changes in the testing target, false positives, someone making up numbers, fake this fake that). Not one says "well that might be exactly what you see in a pandemic".
Makes my heart sink.
Makes my heart sink.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
A one word answer. "Cites?"
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It's sickening. I poke my nose in occasionally, just to see how the asylum is going, but it is massively dispiriting.Fuck me I've just (stupidly) read a Twitter thread off of that link where they are questioning a sudden up swing in cases across Scotland. Loads of people chipping in as the why this might be (changes in testing procedure, changes in the testing target, false positives, someone making up numbers, fake this fake that). Not one says "well that might be exactly what you see in a pandemic".
Makes my heart sink.
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