Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Cid]

Could on the lid & tray, tbf.

They'll still get hot. And I mean you don't generally eat the lid and tray... If you're really worried about these things (and I don't think you should be given current thinking on transmission by touch etc), you can just decant them. Which is the civilized thing to do anyway (there's a hundred page thread in that ).

 

[souljacker]

They'll still get hot. And I mean you don't generally eat the lid and tray... If you're really worried about these things (and I don't think you should be given current thinking on transmission by touch etc), you can just decant them. Which is the civilized thing to do anyway (there's a hundred page thread in that ).

Yeah, we've done this elsewhere but I have been:

Taking in the food
Decanting all food into bowls whilst avoiding touching bowls with takeout boxes
Putting all empty containers back in delivery bag
Taking bag out to the bin
Washing hands throuroughly
Putting all the bowls on the dinner table
Disinfectant spray on kitchen surface where I did all the decanting
Wash hands again
Enjoy!

 

[brogdale]

or roughly 600 according to Johnson's 'maths'.

 

[brogdale]

Won't be long before the figure > capacity of Wembley stadium; beyond that it'll need multiples of UK stadia to illustrate the fatal scale of the Johnson regime's failure.

 

[bimble]

That’s such a big number. Number of bereaved people who couldn’t be there, then couldn’t have a hug at the funeral etc it’s just horrible.

 

[weltweit]

I'm still stuck on the mind boggling stupidity of how come they (our leaders) failed to predict the possibility that after announcing to world on Saturday afternoon that a new out of control strain of the virus is running wild on our island , that there might possibly be a chance of France and others deciding to shut the doors until they can figure out what the hell is going on over here.
How on earth did this not occur to them as a possibility ?
They could have spent 3 seconds thinking about it and at least come up with a plan for testing at the borders to try to mitigate the fears of the neighbouring countries on whom we depend for much of our food.
Its just incredible to me that they didn't realise this might happen, were totally blindsided by it and only belatedly after the doors were slammed shut are now trying to cobble together a plan to get imports to resume.

While I agree that it might have been great if they could have anticipated and done something in reaction to this possibility. I think they had to come clean to the public at the first opportunity because of the radical change to Christmas.

 

[prunus]

Yeah, we've done this elsewhere but I have been:

Taking in the food
Decanting all food into bowls whilst avoiding touching bowls with takeout boxes
Putting all empty containers back in delivery bag
Taking bag out to the bin
Washing hands throuroughly
Putting all the bowls on the dinner table
Disinfectant spray on kitchen surface where I did all the decanting
Wash hands again
Enjoy!

Earlier on before evidence mounted that transmission by fomites was unlikely I used the simple expedient of putting the delivery containers whatever they might be unopened straight in the oven at about 80C for 10 minutes, washing my hands and then carrying on as normal. (And not ordering cold foods). This will happily denature any coronaviruses I believe.

I think I might go back to this protocol until more is known about the new variant. It’s very little effort. Hardest bit is waiting the extra 10 minutes for the delicious delicious food.

 

[crossthebreeze]

Christina Pagal on twitter

 

[PD58]

Meanwhile when you really need it, where is track, trace, isolate or is the pace of infection so rapid that on December 27 we are all in full lockdown??

 

[keybored]

A quick question for those who continue to regularly use Take away food shops despite the increased risks involved...Why?

It sort of baffles me a bit as applied to the great majority of people doing so I absolutely do not buy the excuses of lack of cooking facilities or time, I've lived in many bedsits through my yoof and never been in one without at least a couple of rings to cook on and as for the time thing, I notice it takes a fair while for people visiting my local chippie to queue to get in and served which combined with travelling time easily blows the time excuse out the window..so come on, Why do you do it?

I've never eaten so many takeaways in my life as I have this year. I've been working away a lot more and much of the time there are no eat-ins available or restaurants open at the hotels, so I'll pick up a takeaway and bring it back to the hotel. I bring my own plate and cutlery and wash it in the bathroom sink.

Then when I get home my partner says it's unfair that I get to eat so many takeaways, so we often get one at the weekend too.

Never had to queue, not got infected so far.

 

[bimble]

While I agree that it might have been great if they could have anticipated and done something in reaction to this possibility. I think they had to come clean to the public at the first opportunity because of the radical change to Christmas.

It would have been possible to do both, to at least have had a clue this might be the reaction from neighbouring countries, to not have been left spluttering to the press the following day about how astonished they were by france's response.

 

[cupid_stunt]

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Christine Pagal on twitter

And, the real depressing thing about that peak in April, is that happened after we had gone into lockdown.

FFS, they're hinting about more restrictions, stop fucking about, and just announce the whole of England will go into tier 4 on Boxing day.

 

[magneze]

Why wait.

 

[editor]

Really bleak stuff and there's still twats on my FB insisting that there is no second wave.

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

 

[bimble]

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Christine Pagal on twitter

So november lockdown worked? The sharpness of the curve just looks like it resumed with the same fierce incline as october.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

What those graphs tell me is that we should have gone into a full, total, hard as fuck lockdown for a couple of months on September 1st.

 

[klang]

It’s almost as if schools was a fucking stupid idea from the very start.

ffy

 

[chilango]

What those graphs tell me is that we should have gone into a full, total, hard as fuck lockdown for a couple of months on September 1st.

...or alternatively not done whatever it was that changed the situation.

or at least not all at once.

 

[Pickman's model]

And, the real depressing thing about that peak in April, is that happened after we had gone into lockdown.

FFS, they're hinting about more restrictions, stop fucking about, and just announce the whole of England will go into tier 4 on Boxing day.

On the plus side no boxing day hunting

 

[chilango]

On the plus side no boxing day hunting

wanna bet?

 

[xenon]

It would have been possible to do both, to at least have had a clue this might be the reaction from neighbouring countries, to not have been left spluttering to the press the following day about how astonished they were by france's response.

Remember though at least one of them didnt' know what Dover was.

 

[chilango]

wanna bet?

For example...

Crowds asked to stay away from Boxing Day hunts due to coronavirus

Thousands of people gather every year for Boxing Day hunts, as these pictures show from 2016 and 2017, at the Heythrop Hunt in Chipping Norton.

www.oxfordmail.co.uk

When they go ahead we need to spam the fuck out of the internet with the images of these murdering public school bastards getting their jollies whilst us proles are locked down and scared.

 

[crossthebreeze]

Also Christina Pagal on twitter:

Transmission is out of control in tier 2 - particularly tier 2 areas in regions bordering tier 4. We need to act on this today - not boxing day.

 

[Pickman's model]

For example...

Crowds asked to stay away from Boxing Day hunts due to coronavirus

Thousands of people gather every year for Boxing Day hunts, as these pictures show from 2016 and 2017, at the Heythrop Hunt in Chipping Norton.

www.oxfordmail.co.uk

When they go ahead we need to spam the fuck out of the internet with the images of these murdering public school bastards getting their jollies whilst us proles are locked down and scared.

On the other hand perhaps hunters should be forced to congregate and socialise

 

[elbows]

Meanwhile when you really need it, where is track, trace, isolate or is the pace of infection so rapid that on December 27 we are all in full lockdown??

Test & trace is not thought to be very practical or effective during periods of high incidence of infection.

Its the sort of thing you need to get right in between waves, and then when the data obtained from such systems starts moving in a bad direction authorities have to be prepared to act strongly and early to implement other measures to reduce spread.

 

[elbows]

What those graphs tell me is that we should have gone into a full, total, hard as fuck lockdown for a couple of months on September 1st.

They are also a useful lesson for anyone who was confused about why the first lockdown lasted so long and why lockdown relaxation after the first wave was done quite slowly and gradually.

 

[editor]

Those poor drivers stuck in lorry parks and motorways. It looks like many won't even get home for Christmas and - as one Polish driver said on the BBC - if he had been told a day before, he never would have come into the UK.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Those poor drivers stuck in lorry parks and motorways. It looks like many won't even get home for Christmas and - as one Polish driver said on the BBC - if he had been told a day before, he never would have come into the UK.

Yeah, this is the underlying hum of shit amid a cacophony of shit

 

[teuchter]

What those graphs tell me is that we should have gone into a full, total, hard as fuck lockdown for a couple of months on September 1st.

Why Sept 1st, and why 2 months?

 

[brogdale]

Another negotiation triumph for Johnson.

From yesterday's the border will be open in the next few hours to this: