Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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bimble
floofy
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I'm not actually panicking, just decided today after a walk around & quick visit to the local shops for OH's final present that I'm going to try and stay indoors until either a) I unavoidably have to go out or b) I get cabin fever and need a walk around the block.
Cases up by 500+ in my London borough yesterday. Think I'll start getting my daily exercise by doing more housework and more yoga.
I appreciate I'm lucky in being able to do this.
Cases up by 500+ in my London borough yesterday. Think I'll start getting my daily exercise by doing more housework and more yoga.
I appreciate I'm lucky in being able to do this.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Seul le fret non accompagné sera donc autorisé. Les flux de personnes ou de transports en direction du Royaume-Uni ne sont pas concernés", a précisé Matignon, alors qu'une variante du coronavirus a été découverte outre-Manche
"Only non accompanied freight is authorised. People and transport travelling to the uk is not a concern."
My french isn’t amazing but looks like it’s better than Pippa Crerars.
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
This is really starting to look like the start of a perfect storm of fuck ups and I'm starting to think we're going to be fucked for food in a couple of weeks, in the middle of winter.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
they’ll figure it out. Will be a handover procedure of some description and the freight will still get to us. Maybe not all of it but we’ll be fine. The 48 hour thing is a firebreak to give them a chance to sort it out.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Yep it's only in the direction towards France, the brie is still pouring in for bah humbug.
The EU are having a meeting about the variant tomorrow for a coordinated response hence the short 48 hours ban at the moment from some EU countries.
The EU are having a meeting about the variant tomorrow for a coordinated response hence the short 48 hours ban at the moment from some EU countries.
bimble
floofy
please tell me I’m being a mad conspiracy theorist:
any chance this idea floated above by Germany (that all 27 might shut down sea road and rail links for 48 hours initially) is not entirely unrelated to an attempt to focus our minds on what a no deal brexit with zero preparation might look like?
any chance this idea floated above by Germany (that all 27 might shut down sea road and rail links for 48 hours initially) is not entirely unrelated to an attempt to focus our minds on what a no deal brexit with zero preparation might look like?
Supine
Newt Member
Supine
Newt Member
reality rather than conspiracy imo
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Not impossible
but
how they managed to sneak in that lab made variant back in September, we will never know.
bimble
floofy
Obvs not that, but improvisation , or threat of it.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Certainly wouldn't be surprised if France and other EU countries are calculating that this may give them a negotiating advantage. But it's also a sensible precautionary thing to do for their populations, so likely coincidental win-win for them.
bimble: Yes, said in the kindest possible way.
Flatmate just came back from an outing and knocked on my door to check if it was okay if her friend came in for a short while for them to have their take-away meal. She was being very considerate and very much pre-empted that it would be fine for them to eat outside instead if I was uncomfortable with it (which indeed I am), but I still do wonder what exactly about this weekend's developments made her think it would be a good idea to invite someone into our tiny lounge to eat..?
Flatmate just came back from an outing and knocked on my door to check if it was okay if her friend came in for a short while for them to have their take-away meal. She was being very considerate and very much pre-empted that it would be fine for them to eat outside instead if I was uncomfortable with it (which indeed I am), but I still do wonder what exactly about this weekend's developments made her think it would be a good idea to invite someone into our tiny lounge to eat..?
elbows
Well-Known Member
It depends how far you run with that idea.
I'd say that conspiracies arent necessary, its simply that events and politics do not exist in isolation, things interact, very different themes can merge together and moments happen.
I think of similar concepts when I discuss the recent government new variant announcements. Opportunities knock, one emerging reality can be used to obscure other failings. The framing of events can change dramatically, even whilst the underlying realities are actually a series of separate concerns, some of which get forgotten as the new star takes centre stage. The Brexiteers, via this pandemic, have already escaped the prospects of the effects of Brexit on the economy etc being witnessed in isolation, everything on that front is now merged with pandemic economic woe. Now the same may happen with border and port chaos, the flow of goods etc.
miss direct
misfungled
I have a friend who's British and currently in Greece, where she's been working. She's unhappy and has quit her job and has a flight back to the uk on Wednesday. Is there a chance she will be affected by all this and not be able to get back?
elbows
Well-Known Member
One of the most obvious risks is with flight schedules.
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
Forgive my genuine ignorance, what's non accompanied freight? Surely all freight needs someone with it to get it to its destination? Or do they just herd a bunch of sheep up to the entrance to the channel tunnel and say "Voici les moutons, La Grande-Bretagne, allez-y!" and let them get on with it?
Puddy_Tat
happy mew year
freight is not quite my thing, but (for example) a container that's loaded on to a ship would be the obvious one
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Containers shipped.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Also for artic trailers they can be loaded onto ferries without the tractor unit and picked up by another truck on the other side, it does increase the load-in/out times massively for ferries
e2a: doubt it's an option for the chunnel trains though but could be wrong
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
The trailer is dropped at the port by a driver and then driven onboard by one of the funny little tractor units that kick around ports.
Then unloaded at the other end by a similar method.
I do not know what proportion of freight this covers but hopefully it can ramp up quickly.
Pingety Pong
Well-Known Member
I don't think the idea is being floated by Germany (that to me sounds like a Brexity conspiracy that Germany pulls all the strings when in reality it was other countries like the Netherlands and Belgium which banned all travel from the UK today first, and Merkel is usually very measured in her approach). I am more concerned that this new strain is even worse than they are letting on and leaves neighbouring countries with no option but completely closing the borders to the UK
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Terribly sorry to bother you, erm, w-woudd you be ever so kind and allow my chum, to erm, erm enter the abode and eat, e-eat her ever so delicious nosh an, erm, p-possibly infect you with a, erm, d-deadly virus? Would that be ok?
(I am just imagining your female flatmate is Hugh Grant)
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
Ah of course, thanks all 
I still like the idea of sheep being told to find their own way through the tunnel though.
I still like the idea of sheep being told to find their own way through the tunnel though.
2hats
Dust.
Variante inglese a Fiumicino...
Covid, l'Italia sospende i voli con Uk. Speranza: "Nuova variante è più veloce, ma sembra che vaccino possa funzionare"
Il ministro della Salute: "Il rischio che la mutazione sia già arrivata in Italia c'è". Tampone per chi proviene da Uk
www.ilfattoquotidiano.it
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