Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[elbows]

The nearest England equivalent to that very interesting Scottish data is this from the PHE weekly surveillance report:


From https://assets.publishing.service.g...eekly_COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_40.pdf

 

[Steel Icarus]

I know this is likely to come across as "my mate down the pub says" but my bezzer works in a hospice and says they're being told two weeks max before full lockdown in England to be added on to half term.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Meanwhile the rest of the UK (cough... cough.... England...) does very little at a painfully slow pace.

Apart from the infections, it’s crucial we power through those.

 

[two sheds]

The rationale for the closing of hospitality

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Doesn't mention work in that graph? I'd thought factories were major contribution - Leicester and Pool in Cornwall as two examples. You'd imagine that would then feed back through the households.

 

[LDC]

I know this is likely to come across as "my mate down the pub says" but my bezzer works in a hospice and says they're being told two weeks max before full lockdown in England to be added on to half term.

Yeah, I can't see them holding this wait and see pattern for much longer, even with the position against restrictions held by some in the party and industries.

 

[xenon]

Very sorry to hear of your loss, my dad passed at the beginning of April - we couldn't cremate him for six weeks.

At the service at Croydon crem we had to basically sit on individual rows (which was awful for my mum) wear the masks etc.

The whole thing felt very clinical and was over in a flash, btw no flowers were allowed either - don't know if the rules have changed since then.

Still not been able to have a get together with all the family - so the whole situation feels unresolved.

Sorry for your loss too. Yeah, I'm not sure how much has changed. You are allowed up to 30 now I believe. Will obviously be looking at this in more detail. At least it won't be on bloody Zoom.

Hoep you can have a family get together soon.

As an aside, it was quite surprising how many people were not wearing masks in the hospital. Some visitors and at least one member of staff . My uncle was getting quite irate about it.

 

[killer b]

I know this is likely to come across as "my mate down the pub says" but my bezzer works in a hospice and says they're being told two weeks max before full lockdown in England to be added on to half term.

Is that something the hospice management are being told by someone in government, or just what they're expecting to happen based on case numbers and direction of travel at the moment though?

I'm looking at work clients are booking this month and gently encouraging them to go sooner rather than later - I'd imagine lots of people are working on the hypothesis that there's a good chance there's going to be much heavier restrictions before the end of the month...

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I know this is likely to come across as "my mate down the pub says" but my bezzer works in a hospice and says they're being told two weeks max before full lockdown in England to be added on to half term.

I'm not sure the government have it worked out that far ahead tbh, let alone having communicated it to people working in affected areas whilst keeping it out of the media.

 

[maomao]

I know this is likely to come across as "my mate down the pub says" but my bezzer works in a hospice and says they're being told two weeks max before full lockdown in England to be added on to half term.

I'm waiting to be sent on a school placement and was told (rather vaguely tbh) by a tutor today that it may be put back slightly due to 'lots of places having two week half terms'. Which doesn't mean it will happen but people in education obviously think it will.

 

[editor]

On the one hand

Coronavirus: Health experts join global anti-lockdown movement

Scientists warn of the "devastating" effect of Covid-19 policies, calling for a return to normal for healthy people.

www.bbc.co.uk

And on the other hand

Covid: Pubs and restaurants in central Scotland to close

The new rules will apply to all licensed premises in the central belt of the country - including Glasgow and Edinburgh.

www.bbc.co.uk

No wonder people are confused.

I wonder how many infections that twat Cummngs is indirectly responsible for. When he got away with that driving jolly you could almost hear the fractures in lockdowns happening all over the country.

 

[IC3D]

Yes for time being my freinds funeral was 30 last week with zoom for others no particular distancing and we got an Indian restaurant to book us 5 groups of 6 and it was a free for all really as we weren't visable from the Street xenon no pubs were interested.

 

[killer b]

I'm waiting to be sent on a school placement and was told (rather vaguely tbh) by a tutor today that it may be put back slightly due to 'lots of places having two week half terms'. Which doesn't mean it will happen but people in education obviously think it will.

lots of places do have two week half terms anyway tbf

 

[weepiper]

Scottish Nat 5 exams (our GCSEs) off for 2021, to be assessed on coursework instead. Highers and Advanced Highers to go ahead but later than usual.

 

[Orang Utan]

We really, really do.

I can currently hear a housemate sneezing outside my room door. One housemate keeps having her boyfriend to visit from Nottingham, wandering about the house sans mask. I'm expected to go to work on site with too many people for the space and facilities we have. Public transport is way too crowded to be able to keep your distance, given that there are so many dick-noses about.

I know that's all me, me, me, but there must be a great many risks, similar or different, that people are being subjected to, in this clown car crash.

No one can reasonably claim we don't have the benefit of hindsight, now. There are lots of roads to disaster, but the economic ones are all fixable, if there's the will to do it. Deaths and long-term debilitation aren't.

FWIW sneezing isn’t a C19 symptom

 

[frogwoman]

14,162 cases today

 

[LDC]

On the one hand

Coronavirus: Health experts join global anti-lockdown movement

Scientists warn of the "devastating" effect of Covid-19 policies, calling for a return to normal for healthy people.

www.bbc.co.uk

And on the other hand

Covid: Pubs and restaurants in central Scotland to close

The new rules will apply to all licensed premises in the central belt of the country - including Glasgow and Edinburgh.

www.bbc.co.uk

No wonder people are confused.

I wonder how many infections that twat Cummngs is indirectly responsible for. When he got away with that driving jolly you could almost hear the fractures in lockdowns happening all over the country.

That first article is exactly the type of thing that's causing problems. The media are sowing confusion by pretending the science for the lockdown is massively disputed, which it really isn't. The they claim the public are confused about it all. It's infuriating and highly irresponsible.

 

[chilango]

Not hearing anything in Education regarding a looming lockdown...yet.

 

[xenon]

Yes for time being my freinds funeral was 30 last week with zoom for others no particular distancing and we got an Indian restaurant to book us 5 groups of 6 and it was a free for all really as we weren't visable from the Street xenon no pubs were interested.

THink we're looking at a hotel bar. But yeah, the way things are going who knows what restrictions are just round the corner.

14,162 cases today

I'm a bit out of touch, the spreadsheet fuckups I read about. But is this number ^ new cases with the error already corrected for or new cases including some of that number?

I know this was all done the other day but still can't believe they were using Excell. It's not a fucking database...

 

[LDC]

Not hearing anything in Education regarding a looming lockdown...yet.

Nor in primary care medical. Although not sure we would tbh. I expect the goverment have so little clue and are lurching moment by moment from one thing to the next like a spice smoking donkey with ADHD it's highly unlikely to be anything more than rumours whatever anyone hears atm.

 

[IC3D]

I think there is going to be a spike in hospital acquired covid soon, mostly non severe. Whether its kept quiet or leaked is the question.

 

[Artaxerxes]

THink we're looking at a hotel bar. But yeah, the way things are going who knows what restrictions are just round the corner.



I'm a bit out of touch, the spreadsheet fuckups I read about. But is this number ^ new cases with the error already corrected for or new cases including some of that number?

I know this was all done the other day but still can't believe they were using Excell. It's not a fucking database...

It’s mostly new cases now, the spreadsheets been sorted.

 

[quimcunx]

FWIW sneezing isn’t a C19 symptom

Except when it is.

 

[StoneRoad]

They've lost control of it (again), haven't they ?

Bliddy 'ell weepiper - that is a huge leap in cases.

I repeat what I've said before - you can't have hospitality, (esp pubs) and education (esp the universities) both open. Only one of them at a time. IMO the lockdown relaxations have been done too quickly and too widely.

I don't want it without the furlough scheme being extended, the economy is already suffering - but Sunak's new scheme isn't much help - We really need another three or four weeks of a very strict lockdown.

I said this ^^^ before today's UK figures were out.
Having looked at them ...
Yep, they have lost control, definitely.
We need that 4 weeks minimum of strict lockdown asap.
not waiting for after the weekend or school half-term, NOW !

 

[danny la rouge]

Scottish Nat 5 exams (our GCSEs) off for 2021, to be assessed on coursework instead.

My nephew, who has Aspergers, is delighted.

 

[Orang Utan]

Except when it is.

Beg pardon? Sneezing/a snotty nose means it’s a common cold or hay fever. Covid is a dry cough, a temperature and/or loss of smell/taste

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[two sheds]

My nephew, who has Aspergers, is delighted.

exams are a fucking stupid idea anyway. I had good short term memory so I could cram for them in two weeks, forgot everything afterwards.

 

[frogwoman]

Don't a minority of covid patients sneeze and get runny noses tho? And a blocked nose could also be flu which could be serious.

 

[frogwoman]

When I had covid I didn't have swollen glands weirdly enough despite having a sore throat, but with flu and colds I did.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I said this ^^^ before today's UK figures were out.
Having looked at them ...
Yep, they have lost control, definitely.
We need that 4 weeks minimum of strict lockdown asap.
not waiting for after the weekend or school half-term, NOW !

Certainly in the north, maybe some areas in the Midlands, and perhaps London too, but I see no reason for a national lockdown, when much of the country has very low infection rates.

 

[maomao]

Beg pardon? Sneezing/a snotty nose means it’s a common cold or hay fever. Covid is a dry cough, a temperature and/or loss of smell/taste

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I often sneeze when I'm not even ill. About 30% of people with covid have increased mucous and any respiratory illness can make you sneeze more often and more uncomfortably.