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[two sheds]

They couldn't even wait to year-end could they? His nursing 'saviours' should speak out and call out his utter cuntery. Seeing him in full bluster and deflection mode in PMQs turned me into as boiling bilious rage.

The bit that particularly got me was "Free parking for staff has only been made possible by ..."

Lying pieces of shit. It could be made possible in thousands of ways but they won't do any of them

 

[IC3D]

NCP ditched the free parking weeks ago.

 

[William of Walworth]

They couldn't even wait to year-end could they? His nursing 'saviours' should speak out and call out his utter cuntery. Seeing him in full bluster and deflection mode in PMQs turned me into as boiling bilious rage.

Was Johnson being questioned on the nurses' parking thing specifically?

 

[Calamity1971]

Was Johnson being questioned on the nurses' parking thing specifically?

Yeh, his reply was , well labour charged as well.

 

[spitfire]

I just did that in conservative voting retired sergeant major mode. Don't think they care what lefties think.

Good idea. I just did the same.

 

[William of Walworth]

Yeh, his reply was , well labour charged as well.

I just about remember that years back, and thinking it was crap at the time.
Nurse friends of ours were correctly pissed off.

But withdrawing charges and then re-imposing them, is on that bit higher a Tory level of shiteness .....

 

[phillm]

With Johnson expect the worse and then go lower. He is an actual piece of filth.

 

[Raheem]

They couldn't even wait to year-end could they? His nursing 'saviours' should speak out and call out his utter cuntery. Seeing him in full bluster and deflection mode in PMQs turned me into as boiling bilious rage.

Think they have actually calculated we will be so excited by the half price pizza hut announcement that we won't notice this detail.

 

[phillm]

Think they have actually calculated we will be so excited by the half price pizza hut announcement that we won't notice this detail.

Coronas not included in the deal (food and soft drinks only) or maybe they are ? Rishi Sunak is a shoo-in for a real-life Super-Marination.

At the Nuermberg Trial Johnson gets the noose and Sunak gets a 10 year Albert Speer.

 

[two sheds]

Blaming staff for cv outbreaks is catching on

Hillingdon hospital boss blames staff for A&E closure after Covid-19 outbreak

Main hospital serving Boris Johnson’s constituency in west London says 70 staff are isolating

www.theguardian.com

The chief executive of the hospital that serves Boris Johnson’s constituency, which has shut its A&E unit after an outbreak of coronavirus, has blamed staff for flouting the rules by not wearing masks at work. ...

However, the Guardian can reveal that the hospital’s chief executive, Sarah Tedford, has blamed the outbreak on “irresponsible” staff flouting infection control rules by not wearing a mask while at work, as all NHS staff in England now have to do, and standing or sitting too close to each other.


In a message she sent to staff last Friday, Tedford said: “All the way through this [pandemic] we have followed national guidance and it has kept us safe. So what is happening now? I am told some of you are not wearing appropriate masks and you are not adhering to social distancing. This has resulted in an outbreak on a ward where our staff have contracted Covid-19.

followed by some condescending crap about how important this all is, with (my bold) showing she didn't actually see them. And we learn a little further down.

In April the trust was criticised by a healthcare assistant who quit when managers at the hospital refused her permission to wear a surgical mask to protect herself and her patients.

Tracy Brennan had self-isolated for 14 days after her daughter had shown symptoms. When she returned to work, she wore a surgical mask she had bought herself, to reduce the risk of her contracting or passing on the infection. But when her bosses told her that the next day she could not do so, she removed it. However, she explained in her resignation letter that managers again told her later that day that she could not wear the mask even though a patient had accidentally coughed into her unprotected face when she was taking blood.

In her letter she said: “With a heavy heart and sadness I feel I have no alternative but to hand this letter in as my formal resignation and will be unable to work my notice due to not being allowed to wear sufficient PPE [personal protective equipment] for the duties I perform.”

and

At the time, the trust said it took the safety of all its staff extremely seriously and followed national guidelines.

so that's all right then, nothing to do with them.

 

[Sprocket.]

I expect no less of them, steal other people’s thunder for successes, blame others, usually innocents, for their failures. A normal practise for British management.

 

[kabbes]

This £1000 per employee kept post furlough thing is spectacularly pointless, isn’t it? No firm is going to keep a single employee just because they get £1000 for it. So it’s just money paid to private businesses for no reason,

 

[Teaboy]

This £1000 per employee kept post furlough thing is spectacularly pointless, isn’t it? No firm is going to keep a single employee just because they get £1000 for it. So it’s just money paid to private businesses for no reason,

Agreed. It makes no sense at all. The promise of £1k later down the line if you keep someone on for an extra few months is worthless. Just a bung.

 

[maomao]

This £1000 per employee kept post furlough thing is spectacularly pointless, isn’t it? No firm is going to keep a single employee just because they get £1000 for it. So it’s just money paid to private businesses for no reason,

Bung to business cause businesses are fucked but the populace won't swallow that, especially after the Nandos vouchers, so dress it up as a job retention scheme while doing nothing for job retention.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

This £1000 per employee kept post furlough thing is spectacularly pointless, isn’t it? No firm is going to keep a single employee just because they get £1000 for it. So it’s just money paid to private businesses for no reason,

Maybe it's slightly useful for tiny businesses that don't pay all that much? Like if you're a hairdresser and employ a couple of weekend trainees that you were going to have to let go, maybe you can keep them on for a few more months. But for any decent size employer it is pointless, definitely.

 

[Smangus]

This £1000 per employee kept post furlough thing is spectacularly pointless, isn’t it? No firm is going to keep a single employee just because they get £1000 for it. So it’s just money paid to private businesses for no reason,

It certainly hasn't influenced John Lewis or Boots with their decisions today.

 

[MrSki]

This £1000 per employee kept post furlough thing is spectacularly pointless, isn’t it? No firm is going to keep a single employee just because they get £1000 for it. So it’s just money paid to private businesses for no reason,

Just think of the companies who furloughed 80% of staff & need to make redundancies. It will now be the 20% who worked through it who will be dumped on the scrap heap cos the company will get a bag of sand for each employee who was furloughed.

 

[cupid_stunt]

It certainly hasn't influenced John Lewis or Boots with their decisions today.

They were both looking to close stores before Covid, it's just speeded up the inevitable.

 

[maomao]

Maybe it's slightly useful for tiny businesses that don't pay all that much? Like if you're a hairdresser and employ a couple of weekend trainees that you were going to have to let go, maybe you can keep them on for a few more months. But for any decent size employer it is pointless, definitely.

There's a minimum wage to qualify (£520 p.m.) so probably wouldn't cover a weekend trainee.

 

[The39thStep]

If you think of how many town centre regeneration schemes were built upon getting big name chains and stores in you can see the effect of these closures is going to have on local economies and workers.

 

[Raheem]

It certainly hasn't influenced John Lewis or Boots with their decisions today.

Or possibly it has, just not in a positive direction.

 

[Cerv]

There's a minimum wage to qualify (£520 p.m.) so probably wouldn't cover a weekend trainee.

so despite Sunak's rhetoric this is not designed as a jobs retention scheme or part there of. it is in no way intended to prevent or discourage layoffs that would otherwise happen.
it's just a slightly roundabout way to get some money into businesses who're suffering reduced cashflow. to help on back rent, reopening costs, etc. without paying anything to businesses that are just going to shut down anyway.

 

[Roadkill]

Oh look, Nadine Dorries is being disingenuous again:

 

[Wilf]

Think they have actually calculated we will be so excited by the half price pizza hut announcement that we won't notice this detail.

If it was Pizza Express, it might be a scheme to tempt prince andrew out of hiding.

 

[existentialist]

Oh look, Nadine Dorries is being disingenuous again:

I expect she's being the mouthpiece for someone else's disingenuousness - I struggle to credit her with the smarts to do it by herself.

 

[Petcha]

So, the group most affected by the virus. The elderly. Many of whom are still self isolating and probably spending their days watching the box. What does the BBC do? Oh, fleece em for 160 quid.

BBC in row with No 10 over decision to restrict free TV licences

Licence fee for over-75s will only be waived for people on pension credit from next month

www.theguardian.com

 

[Raheem]

So, the group most affected by the virus. The elderly. Many of whom are still self isolating and probably spending their days watching the box. What does the BBC do? Oh, fleece em for 160 quid.

BBC in row with No 10 over decision to restrict free TV licences

Licence fee for over-75s will only be waived for people on pension credit from next month

www.theguardian.com

The alternative would be to spend a fifth of it's budget each year on free licences. Right or wrong, it was never realistically going to happen.

 

[Roadkill]

I expect she's being the mouthpiece for someone else's disingenuousness - I struggle to credit her with the smarts to do it by herself.

Oh I don't know. She's stupid enough to think people won't notice the date on the report she cites!

 

[cupid_stunt]

Oh I don't know. She's stupid enough to think people won't notice the date on the report she cites!

TBF she's stupid enough not to have spotted the date on the report herself.

 

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