But with employers expected to pay towards the 80% from some point (end of July I think).
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Good. So many industries can’t really go back to work. Astonishing cost, currently something like £14bn a month. Gonna take donks to pay that back!
ruffneck23
front left
They might end up being forced into legalising and taxing weed.
Oh sorry this is the tories isnt it ?
Forget that
andysays
Love and solidarity
Yeah, more details emerging as we speak.
in what way?
I just saw her give a video interview. She looked like she'd just hoovered up a couple of grams. Wild eyes and basically shouting.
maomao
普費斯
Matt Hancock has broken it to the British people they may have to cancel their summer holidays this year 
Matt Hancock said:“We will seek to reopen hospitality from early July if we keep successfully reducing the spread of this virus but I think social distancing of some kind is going to continue,” Hancock said.
“And the conclusion from that is that it’s unlikely big lavish international holidays are going to be possible for this summer. I just think that’s a reality of life.”
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So no Tuscany for us this year.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
I’m probably being stupid here but doesn’t the extension of the scheme add more confusion to the waffle that came out on Sunday night? I’m furloughed so happy about it.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
She’s pissed off as she should be
It's certainly a retreat from wha Sunak was telegraphing last week, which was a cut to 60%
maomao
普費斯
A large amount of people who aren't working (like myself) are not working because there's no work to do. I can do my job from home but if there was no furlough I probably would have been made redundant.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
BofE is financing it by printing money, the gov can decide how much and for how long they want to pay it back, if at all. They are not borrowing from the international markets.
angry Labour politicians is what we kind of want right now isn't it?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Why would it? If anything surely it makes it less stressful and easier, more options than just having to go straight back to work.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Same for me only I can work from home but my employer decided I couldn’t. I suppose how long you’re on the scheme will depend on government advice and employers decisions.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Just in terms of the different signals coming out of the gov, get to work, stay at home, extending furlough...I am having a doppy day.
little_legs
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elbows
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All cause deaths compared to Covid-19 on death certificate deaths continues to show the same sort of relationship during the decline phase as it did earlier.
Its completely correct to consider the indirect deaths that may be part of the picture, eg deaths caused by lockdown side-effects rather than the disease itself, when talking about excess mortality. However, when I see graph like this, my conviction that the bulk of the excess is from Covid-19 rather than indirect stuff remains intact. Whether it will be possible to spot more of what could be indirect deaths later on I cannot say, I suppose it depends what level the deaths return to once the Covid-19 deaths are no longer a very large part of the picture.
Its completely correct to consider the indirect deaths that may be part of the picture, eg deaths caused by lockdown side-effects rather than the disease itself, when talking about excess mortality. However, when I see graph like this, my conviction that the bulk of the excess is from Covid-19 rather than indirect stuff remains intact. Whether it will be possible to spot more of what could be indirect deaths later on I cannot say, I suppose it depends what level the deaths return to once the Covid-19 deaths are no longer a very large part of the picture.
Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
Provisional counts of the number of deaths registered in England and Wales, including deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19), by age, sex and region, in the latest weeks for which data are available.
www.ons.gov.uk
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
And, still they haven't confirmed help for the self-employed beyond the end of May, the cunts. 
little_legs
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You mean the government got scared that it may be liable for the mass murder of the population and the ensuing class action?
andysays
Love and solidarity
I know a few furloughed people who were expecting to get made redundant when the current period came to an end so hopefully this buys a little time if nothing else.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Aye, not Starmer’s Droopy Dog wet farts
Raheem
Well-Known Member
That was supposed to be the whole point of the mad unlockdown speech, wasn't it?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Several possibilities I suppose.
General ineptitude leading to a forced rethink.
Games between competing factions within government (some ministers want faster lifting of lockdown etc).
Behavioural unit not having a clue what the public response will be so wanting stuff like this floated to test public sentiments.
Trying to sound pro-business to keep those types onside, but mostly just for show, because they had little of substance to offer them in terms of reopening.
Aside from those possibilities, I think my favourite remains the one where they actually understand how long it is going to take to return certain aspects of life to something approaching normal. So they start pushing some of the public messages far ahead of what they actually expect to achieve. Because its still a start. Maybe only a few percent of workers respond in the desired way and start to have different attitudes about whether they should try to go back to work, but its still a start. Its just groundwork, eg for a later step where they might get some kids back to school, increasing the number of workers who might be able to return because childcare issues are reduced. The schools reopening stuff is a similar kind of thing in itself, I bet they know that only a fraction of kids will actually go back when the opportunity to do so first arises, but its still something, and they need to start getting the idea into peoples heads early.
little_legs
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Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Or more than likely Gov have been made aware of what teachers have said via their union surveys. We ain’t coming back to work on June 1st.
little_legs
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Doesn't mean it won't happen, if your employer is greedy or cash strapped, the 60% may still be on the cards.
Edit: from August 1st that is
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