Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[quimcunx]

Reception back from June 1st? Really? We're in two minds as to whether we'll send her back seeing as I'm furloughed and Mrs maomao was made redundant in December. Huge risk for six weeks. Social distancing aged five is not really plausible. We'll be in a germ pool with thirty odd sets of parents.

We'll be into the 2nd wave by then, or would be if we'd ever finished the 1st wave.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Labourers and construction workers have been given less than 12 hours notice.

The rest of us have little to no idea if we're expected at work tomorrow, because this was done a fucking Sunday evening.

It takes me an hour and a quarter to get to work with public transport. Guess I should start walking now...

 

[Sue]

And some hospitality places (so restaurants/pubs?) Open in July? Much as I miss both, I really can't imagine feeling like it'll be a good idea at that point.

 

[LDC]

And some hospitality places (so restaurants/pubs?) Open in July? Much as I miss both, I really can't imagine feeling like it'll be a good idea at that point.

At the earliest IIRC, but be willing to bet that won't happen if other countries loosening measures are anything to go by. And if it does it'll be in a very, very limited way.

 

[bimble]

On the quarantining arrivals thing , he just said he’s ‘giving notice’ that this is coming but didn’t even say when did I remember that right?

 

[Orang Utan]

On the quarantining arrivals thing , he just said he’s ‘giving notice’ that this is coming but didn’t even say when did I remember that right?

clear as mud: PM address to the nation on coronavirus: 10 May 2020

 

[Ax^]

BBC trying to give clarity on his comments atm

 

[Steel Icarus]

Don't send her then - what are they going to do?

Unfortunately I'm not her only parent, and the other one will do what she's told by the gov.

 

[cyril_smear]

what was the gist of the update?

Can we go out more than once for excercise?
Are we allowed to visit one other household as was suggested in the meedya?

 

[Ax^]

Go to work BTW Public transport is fucked


Good Luck

 

[andysays]

This is the kind of advice that's going to kill people.

I had an email from my employer (a London council) on Friday afternoon saying that they had had no prior info on what changes might be announced this evening, so they would be continuing with existing arrangements, those who can working from home, those of us still coming to work continuing with the special distancing etc measures we've been following for the past seven weeks. They're going to take time to assess changes in advice and make sure clear and proper procedures are in place

But I'm sure lots of employers who depend on income through sales etc will be eager to get employees back in ASAP and won't be so keen to wait while safe (or as safe as possible) working practices are worked out and put in place.

 

[wayward bob]

i really, really want my kids back at school. and so do they.

just an aside i'm not being funny. my kids rely on the external input they get from school & friends to function. without that input they're quite impressively demonstrating "help-me" type behaviours. that if i were in a position to help with i would have already done.

 

[flypanam]

what was the gist of the update?

Can we go out more than once for excercise?
Are we allowed to visit one other household as was suggested in the meedya?

Get to work essentially.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Deliberately confusing messages so everybody else/anybody else can be held to blame for more and more deaths.
It is all about 'politics' and not about public safety.
It's a horror show.

Louis MacNeice

 

[Steel Icarus]

what was the gist of the update?

Can we go out more than once for excercise?
Are we allowed to visit one other household as was suggested in the meedya?

Yes
No

 

[cyril_smear]

Get to work essentially.

so not allowed to visit loved ones but get back to work?!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

They're still just kind of hoping it will all go away, aren't they?

 

[Steel Icarus]

so not allowed to visit loved ones but get back to work?!

You can visit loved ones, just talk to them from a distance.

 

[maomao]

 

[Buddy Bradley]

so not allowed to visit loved ones but get back to work?!

Unless visiting your loved ones keeps the economy going.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Unless visiting your loved ones keeps the economy going.

You can visit your loved ones, but only if you charge them a fiver?

 

[not-bono-ever]

my gaff is desperate to get people back in but legal are having none of it because liability

 

[Steel Icarus]

just an aside i'm not being funny. my kids rely on the external input they get from school & friends to function. without that input they're quite impressively demonstrating "help-me" type behaviours. that if i were in a position to help with i would have already done.

I've amended my reaction emoji accordingly. Gist hard sometimes with text

 

[MickiQ]

And yes, UBI solves everything.

Nope but UBI done properly (and I emphasise the last word) is something that I personally am massively in favour of, we're going to need it or something like it as more and more jobs are lost to machines rather than the virus. It would be one positive thing to come out of this crisis if it started politicians (even if reluctantly down this path). But that's a different discussion from how culpable Boris is over his handling of the crisis.

 

[Ax^]

On the quarantining arrivals thing , he just said he’s ‘giving notice’ that this is coming but didn’t even say when did I remember that right?

Yup

Maybe he is going to lie down in front of the runway to stop the planes landing

 

[Brainaddict]

Deliberately confusing messages so everybody else/anybody else can be held to blame for more and more deaths.
It is all about 'politics' and not aout public safety.
It's a horror show.

Yep, it's overall just a refusal to take responsibility for doing the difficult stuff. Johnson isn't interested in difficult stuff, he just wants to be popular. A lot of people are dying for his personality defects.

 

[quimcunx]

what was the gist of the update?

Can we go out more than once for excercise?
Are we allowed to visit one other household as was suggested in the meedya?

Yes. No.

 

[bimble]

This was a pretty interesting read btw. If correct it may explain a few things including the wrongness of recent media briefings.

How Boris Johnson Sided With "Doves" Over "Hawks" In His Government To Slow The UK's Exit From Lockdown

Some Number 10 advisers, cabinet ministers, top civil servants, and “a clear majority” of Tory MPs initially lobbied for a “rival” exit strategy, BuzzFeed News can reveal.

www.buzzfeed.com

 

[LDC]

what was the gist of the update?

Can we go out more than once for excercise?
Are we allowed to visit one other household as was suggested in the meedya?

Yes to the first.

No to the second.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

They're still just kind of hoping it will all go away, aren't they?

No they're hoping they don't get any blame for what is happening and that we can all get back to the status quo as soon as poss; there really doesn't seem to be much more going on at all. It is criminally selfish and irresponsible.

Louis MacNeice