littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'm a bit torn on the app. I want to do it because it's the public-spirited thing to do, but I don't trust them not to use it for other things.
It’s not the instrusiveness that concerns meIt
No, it's optional. And not particularly intrusive I don't think.
They turned down the Google/Apple option and are going it alone.
NHS rejects Apple-Google coronavirus app plan
The UK's contact-tracing app is set to use a "centralised" system that worries privacy experts.www.bbc.co.uk
Does anyone else see a risk here with the app of idiots reporting fake symptoms on it just for a laugh? A virtual version of coughing in supermarkets just to be a fuckwit?
No, it's optional. And not particularly intrusive I don't think.
They turned down the Google/Apple option and are going it alone.
NHS rejects Apple-Google coronavirus app plan
The UK's contact-tracing app is set to use a "centralised" system that worries privacy experts.www.bbc.co.uk
Yeah, bit of intrusion short-term during an emergency situation is fine, as long as it is time-limited and all the data is then destroyed. It's that second bit I don't trust.It’s not the instrusiveness that concerns me
It’s not the instrusiveness that concerns me
Yeah, bit of intrusion short-term during an emergency situation is fine, as long as all the data is then destroyed. It's that second bit I don't trust.
It's detailed information about who you associate with, when and for how long. You don't see a problem with the government gathering that information?What kind of thing are people worried they’ll use it for?
It's detailed information about who you associate with, when and for how long. You don't see a problem with the government gathering that information?
Depends what they ask for and contract terms. They will absolutely know that abusing that will mean a lot of expensive lawsuits.
Is it the above that they're doing that pilot with on the Isle of Wight?
I lot of older people there still use dial phones and drive Morris Minors .... I don't exaggerate by much!
It only asks for the first part of your postcode. In my case for example SW2. Otherwise it's completely anonymous.
tbh it's the latest in a long line of things that have crept in. My phone knows where I am anyway. My bank knows every time I take the tube. Anyone seeking to trace my activities has a wealth of data to use. This takes things up a level, though, in terms of resolution if nothing else.Depends what they ask for and contract terms. They will absolutely know that abusing that will mean a lot of expensive lawsuits.
Will using this app thing be mandatory? I have many qualms about the government using a private profit-driven company to do this
tbh it's the latest in a long line of things that have crept in. My phone knows where I am anyway. My bank knows every time I take the tube. Anyone seeking to trace my activities has a wealth of data to use. This takes things up a level, though, in terms of resolution if nothing else.
tbh it's the latest in a long line of things that have crept in. My phone knows where I am anyway. My bank knows every time I take the tube. Anyone seeking to trace my activities has a wealth of data to use. This takes things up a level, though, in terms of resolution if nothing else.
Does anyone else see a risk here with the app of idiots reporting fake symptoms on it just for a laugh? A virtual version of coughing in supermarkets just to be a fuckwit?
It's detailed information about who you associate with, when and for how long. You don't see a problem with the government gathering that information?
Think that's been built in as it's not symptom based but positive test based. And even if people do manage to report things maliciously then it just means that the people they've contacted then self-isolate, so it's not a massive problem in some ways.
You take that back. I don't live there and I don't drive a Morris Minor
I did drive one years ago mind.
IoW seemed a strange place to do a smartphone-based pilot to me, given the demographics. Loads of oldies and retired!
That's a bonus as it shows if it's workable with a high % not using it. It's also enclosed, a decent sized population, and has good internet access.
TBH, I think your concerns are entirely justified.With all the talk of easing lockdown, I can feel my stress levels rising again. Why would a government that was so incompetent getting us into the lockdown be any less incompetent getting us out?
As usual they're leaving the announcement of (hopefully) clear information to the last minute. It was assumed there'd be an announcement on Thursday when the lockdown was due for review, but it seems that Johnson now has some kind of speech to the nation planned for Sunday. In the meantime there's snippets of info coming out in dribs and dabs, so anything said on Sunday is likely to just be filling in the gaps of what everyone will have already figured out.
The testing program seems to have been driven purely by getting the highest numbers possible, putting quantity over quality, just so that Hancock wasn't embarrassed by missing his self imposed target. The tracking app seems cobbled together and rushed out. Isolating seems to be down to individual good will. The proposals for getting back to work seem to be driven by businesses desire to make money again, putting profit before people. There seems to be total confusion so far over how to safely open the schools again.
Maybe it'll all come together, but I'm worried that the desire to end the lockdown will see us all venturing out and the transmission rate going back up again.
Can anyone reassure me that it'll all be okay?
No, its symptom based. At first anyway. If the person gets the all clear a couple of days later it will alert you but until then you'll have to self isolate. As far as I understand it.
That's useless for tracking though isn't it? Huge areas.
The app is Bluetooth based isn't it? So it works by recording who you've been physically close to. Relies on everyone having Bluetooth turned on all the time.