No plastics screens have made it up to the chain stores here at all, just lines that are impossible not to cross when paying etc. The local shops and pharmacy though have a 2 or 1 customer only policy, garages and pharmacy are entirely shut so customers can only come in the door way- most had this in place two weeks ago.
I just noticed this (loathe as I am to link to this twitter account, but the points about masks made by Openshaw are relevant):
Yeah, and there are a lot of contradictory opinions out there. Some of the more consistent opinions relate to the proper wearing of masks and the nullifying of their benefit to you if you don't use them correctly, while even a badly worn mask may protect others from you somewhat by intercepting at least some of your breath. Singapore is currrently reversing its advice, but the general thrust of its previous advice seemed about right to me - unless you're going to follow very strict procedures, don't think of a mask when you're out and about as protecting you from others, but rather as protecting others from you.
You need special ones with fingertip conductive surfaces.
Helpful info re where I live, there’s been a couple of deaths in my unit we weren’t sure about so this confirms they didn’t have it.Thanks for the heads up about that.
Coronavirus: New figures suggest higher death toll
New figures suggest that 354 deaths have been linked to coronavirus in Scotland since the outbreak began.www.bbc.co.uk
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aah, v possible!
www.met.police.uk
www.lambeth.gov.uk
Their site shows yesterday's 0900 figures it's 30 hours on from that.
John Bercow's let himself go, hasn't he.
I've barely followed the stuff on the different ways Corvid deaths are counted, the non-inclusion of care home deaths etc. However, in broad brush strokes does this mean we can say over/well over 1000 people a day have been dying from the virus all in for the last week or 10 days? And maybe even more if we include those with the virus but getting something else as cause of death on the death certificate?
But still the question stands, are we able to make a 'valid generalisation' as to how many might be dying each day?
I've barely followed the stuff on the different ways Corvid deaths are counted, the non-inclusion of care home deaths etc. However, in broad brush strokes does this mean we can say over/well over 1000 people a day have been dying from the virus all in for the last week or 10 days? And maybe even more if we include those with the virus but getting something else as cause of death on the death certificate?
Edit: I really should read the stuff that's even on this page, from elbows.
Ta, appreciated. Part of my interest is just a kind of 'how should we be thinking about it', but its also a before and after effect. Before the outbreak it would have been staggering to think that perhaps 20,000 people might die, particularly at the point where johnson started off singing happy birthday and doing just about zilch in terms of testing and contact tracing. We're now in the middle of it and there's relatively little sign that there's any widespread criticism of the government, though that's understandable as people have yet to really focus on the issue of blame and information is still rather fragmented. Also of course people are more worried about sorting their shop for the week or symptoms that a relative might have. But afterwards there will be a battle for the narrative. That won't be defined by the figures but the figures will be an important part of it.
tbh 'about the same as Italy' doesn't even feel like a bad result from where we were. Elbows' stats are consistent with that. Three weeks ago, as we tracked Italy day-for-day, I was struggling to think of reasons why we might not continue to track them. Still am.
