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Difficult to do all my work from home as part of my job is showing flats but I guess they could postpone them for a period. I could at a pinch walk to work, according to Google maps it is a 1 hr 25 minute walk. But if we go full lock down , might as well stay at home.
 
particularly am working on an event for about 500 people end of March, wondering if its going to get pulled
Depending on what it is, where it is and where the attendees are coming from, I think there's a significant chance it will be postponed or cancelled.

I would certainly start to think about that as a possibility now, rather than wait another few weeks before considering it.
 
I work in a public library/community centre, with NHS consulting rooms. We have pregnant women's groups, a COPD support group and many elderly and disabled visitors, so many of our customers are at risk. Loads of children visit after school and if they close the schools, they will all come to the library all day instead, so I imagine they'd have to lock down my place of work too. I doubt that will mean time off work though, they'll squeeze it out of us somehow. But even if we do get paid time off for a number of weeks, the backlog of work on return would be enormous and hard to cope with.
 
Unlike swine flu, pregnent women arent thought to be in the high risk category for this illness, but that doesnt mean there wont be a single instance of severe illness in that demographic.

Just an aside as you mentioned pregnant women, not a criticism of you or what you said, I'm just taking the opportunity to convey info.
 
I've got 2 events to put on for voluntary organisation in the next month or so - fairly minor thing at the end of march, which is basically a case of changing the date on last year's stuff and getting it out there, easter weekend's event is a lot bigger.

and work is running buses (i drive a desk rather than a bus) so if everything goes in to lockdown, presume we'd be off the road.

what's the deal with staff getting paid if the business is closed?
 
Unlike swine flu, pregnent women arent thought to be in the high risk category for this illness, but that doesnt mean there wont be a single instance of severe illness in that demographic.

Just an aside as you mentioned pregnant women, not a criticism of you or what you said, I'm just taking the opportunity to convey info.
Aye, it was just an assumption that they'd be at risk. We had an instance of a child off school with chicken pox being sent to the library to spend his days off, instead of being kept at home. We had to send him home as he was a risk to others' health.
 
I've got 2 events to put on for voluntary organisation in the next month or so - fairly minor thing at the end of march, which is basically a case of changing the date on last year's stuff and getting it out there, easter weekend's event is a lot bigger.

and work is running buses (i drive a desk rather than a bus) so if everything goes in to lockdown, presume we'd be off the road.

what's the deal with staff getting paid if the business is closed?

Govt have said SSP will be paid from day 1 of sickness for coronavirus cases, rather than from day 3 as usual. Otherwise depends on your employers sick pay policy.
 
It's an ideal virus for a right-wing, authoritarian take over init?

Suspend Parliament.
Emergency legislation.
Restrict travel.
Ban gatherings.
Slim down the NHS to only deal with coronavirus
Reduce police force to only 'essential services' - probably means protecting property.
Advice to not use cash - all purchases now traceable
Rationing tinfoil sales :hmm:

This is just a test run...

It has the makings of a cheesy dystopian Netflix drama.

Employee 793. Working in a secret military lab, due to an administrative error following a minor fire, discovers there's more to producing a vaxene for some obscure virus thought to have only effected water fowel.

"They isolated all our teams. We shared our results anonymously through an air gapped encrypted network. No one knows the other guys names. It was for our safety."

But bigger mistakes were made.
<scenes of infected birds escaping during fire>

As reports of a spike in flue cases around the region come out, the lab goes dark.
<military bods in covert meeting>
"What the hell happened here. Project flamingo wasn't ready."
"One thing I learned in Afghanistan, you get the plan or you get the time. Never both. What do virus's do, they adapt to survive. I say we adapt, learn, this is what the suits wanted anyway. They can't complain too much, we just came in under budget and ahead of schedule."

As a slow creeping panic takes hold, emergency measures are brought in, lock down begins
<hazmat suit wearing troops guarding government buildings>
<Armed patrols, curfews>
<stockpiling, panic>

Employee 793 realises they're infected themselves. They know they must flee with only the partial solution to a vaxene. But where can they run, who can they tell?

...
 
Govt have said SSP will be paid from day 1 of sickness for coronavirus cases, rather than from day 3 as usual. Otherwise depends on your employers sick pay policy.

but what if people are not sick, just that their workplace is either put on lockdown, or just doesn't have any business coming in?
 
but what if people are not sick, just that their workplace is either put on lockdown, or just doesn't have any business coming in?

ah right.
Well if the business decides to pause trading, then they will need to keep paying you or make you redundant. People on zero hour contracts will be fucked :(
If the govt. enforces a lockdown and prevents businesses from trading I would imagine they would pay SSP or something brought in to do the same job. I don't think they've said anything about the possibility of enforced shutdowns.
 
Some good news, out of the 32 flown back from the outbreak on the ship of doom in Japan, 28 have just been released from quarantine. :thumbs:

* the other 4 tested positive on return, and were dispatched to specialist hospitals.
 
I think it all depends on where the cases are, my understanding is that at the moment they're everywhere.
 
I think it all depends on where the cases are, my understanding is that at the moment they're everywhere.

They are, as you can see HERE, they are not going to lock-down the whole of the UK based on a couple of hundred cases spread so thinly across the country.
 
I think they're wary of closing things down for 2 reasons, firstly that it's not that sustainable so it has to be timed carefully to be of maximum value. Secondly they're very worried about the economic impact of any measures.
Yeah, that's the tricky bit. Judging 'ahead of when it gets more expensive not too but not after the horse has totally bolted', and as others have mentioned, the problem of people who get no pay whatsoever if they're not working... not to mention the baseline of people who already don't have enough food for two days, let alone two weeks if they have to self-isolate and especially if there's only one adult in the household.
 
We did a staff planning exercise with PHE/NHS and various others at ACSC focusing on Ebola (the exercise was about using your brain to plan/react, not necessarily about this or that eventuality) one of the options explored was classifying people as essential/non-essential in terms of their occupation: so if you worked in food production you could go to work and buy petrol, but if you worked in basket weaving (or at a former polytechnic... :thumbs:) then you stayed at home. Schools were open as, effectively, child care centres for people in these reserved occupations, but closed for those who weren't - the curriculum went out of the window obviously...

It wasn't about stopping the spread of the disease, it was about slowing it down - so the starting point was about reducing contact - if half the population stay at home you instantly reduce total contacts by 50%, something any virologist would give their right arm for.

personally I would presume that any planned activity/event due to take place from 15th march or so won't now happen - if it does, great, but I would act on the assumption that it won't.

I certainly wouldn't book a trip to Butlins in the Easter holidays and get the kids all excited about it....
 
Cobra may ban people over 70 from attending public meetings according to the Grauniard, I can't see some of the over-seventies I know being keen on that.
 
I wouldn't expect it to be increasing at any regular percentage really.
I mean I know it's relevant later, when you can see definite decreases in the percentage of new cases (in China for eg, for now, at least) but if you look at for eg France, the percentages are all over the place - the fact is that the numbers are going up, regularly and significantly.
 
Wondering how long it'll be before schools and colleges close. I'm guessing within the fortnight. Bloody annoying as I've got a month's worth of progression review planning to do for 190 students and I'm not sure if it'll be all for nothing
 
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