Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[LDC]

No, we’ve already established over the last two years that it’s fine for unvaccinated people to protest outdoors when prevalence is high or during lockdowns. It’s not ok to backtrack on that just because you don’t like what they are protesting about.

Depends on your definition of 'fine', but whatever it is it's entirely fair to criticize them for all sorts of valid reasons, including what they're protesting about.

 

[two sheds]

They are probably still trying to make a tired point about double-standards in regards things like BLM protests.

The temptation for me is to complicate such things by saying that the season needs to be taken into account, and the hugely increased transmissibility of recent variants is also a factor people could use to dampen down accusations of double-standards.

Yes with omicron being so much easier to transmit and so many unvaxxed, unmasked people gathering together ....

 

[Brainaddict]

Its been interesting (via housemates) to see the accuracy of the LFT's.
If there is a line, no matter how feint, its highly likely you have it. It then proceeds to become progressively more red to look the same as the control line when you are properly sick.
Then fades away back to a very hard to see yellow line when you feel fine but still isolating.
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This was from one housemate that has fully recovered.

Zoom
I still test negative.

This is interesting, thanks. I tested positive with a very faint line at the beginning of this bout and retested today out of curiosity to find I currently have a really strong red line.

 

[brogdale]

No, we’ve already established over the last two years that it’s fine for unvaccinated people to protest outdoors when prevalence is high or during lockdowns. It’s not ok to backtrack on that just because you don’t like what they are protesting about.

Not sure that's ever been 'fine' tbh, but whatever...if I feel like saying kinnel about the massive stupidity of travelling unnecessarily to gather together at this point in the pandemic at that location to protest against measures (albeit inadequate) designed to reduce deaths...I'll do just that, thanks.

 

[l'Otters]

Been on plenty of demos this year from early March onwards. Got there under my own steam & kept a mask on throughout. Most other people on the demos I went on had masks on & where physical space allowed were keeping a distance.

 

[l'Otters]

Whereas anti lockdown anti vaxx protestors by definition will be doing neither.

 

[Steel Icarus]

90.5k today. 900 hospitalised

 

[elbows]

90.5k today. 900 hospitalised

The daily hospital admissions data doent get updated at weekends, and there is a bit of additional lag when looking at the UK number rather than the number for England.

 

[elbows]

By the way, this is hospital admissions/diagnoses for the London region, broken down by age. Unfortunately one of the age groups is very broad, but the version of the data that breaks things down into more age groups only comes out once a month.

It does seem that Delta was also on the rise in London recently so I dont know as I can yet use this to gain stronger clues about Omicron severity, probably not.

 

[IC3D]

I think other than being triggering the millions of school kids are a far more significant spreading vector than a few hundred protesters

 

[LDC]

I think other than being triggering the millions of school kids are a far more significant spreading vector than a few hundred protesters

Yeah, we're all triggered for sure. Any answer to why you think vaccinating is wrong headed then, or am I on ignore? Or was it something you can't actually back up with a good reason?

Still interested in what area of the NHS you work in as well. Hospital from what you've said, but what role?

 

[20Bees]

Eldest has messaged, feeling rough and just got a positive LFT, she has booked a drive-through PCR for tomorrow. Her ex-husband has said it means she can’t see their 5 year old until after Christmas (child is with dad for the weekend and currently doesn’t have symptoms) - from the gov.uk guidance I don’t think that’s right. Rotten timing and eldest obviously won’t be able to see other family and friends next week(end) but as long as the child is tested daily and has no symptoms it seems he can still shuttle between parents, and come to me if necessary? I had my booster on 1 December.

 

[prunus]

Eldest has messaged, feeling rough and just got a positive LFT, she has booked a drive-through PCR for tomorrow. Her ex-husband has said it means she can’t see their 5 year old until after Christmas (child is with dad for the weekend and currently doesn’t have symptoms) - from the gov.uk guidance I don’t think that’s right. Rotten timing and eldest obviously won’t be able to see other family and friends next week(end) but as long as the child is tested daily and has no symptoms it seems he can still shuttle between parents, and come to me if necessary? I had my booster on 1 December.

You are right, minors living with a positive case don’t have to self isolate to be in accordance with the current guidance. And also right that it’s recommended they are tested daily.

 

[blameless77]

Triple jabbed, (mostly) wfh,, barely been out since October. I've just tested positive. Daughter brought it home from school totally asymptomatic. She's got it too.

Double jabbed here, and like dseeminfly everyone in Brixton, positive as of last Monday. No symptoms! Husband had high fever for two days, but now fine. Found out by doing a lateral flow before going for our boosters.

 

[20Bees]

You are right, minors living with a positive case don’t have to self isolate to be in accordance with the current guidance. And also right that it’s recommended they are tested daily.

Thank you. I hope the parents sort it out between them, emotions run high over Christmas even without the complication of covid.

 

[thismoment]

I know! And, maybe such simple things as mask-wearing not just in customer facing roles, but in all workplaces, and - call me crazy - a very clear message to not go to work or socialise with any cold symptoms of any kind!!!

My manager was fuming that people where taking sick days because of “just a cold”. People who work in a school!

 

[weepiper]

 

[_Russ_]

That's the control line and is meant to be there. Have you ever done an LFT _Russ_ ?

I've done many , look closely at the 2 pics, there is a fine line on both test pucks (No I dont mean the control line)

 

[Supine]

Match Of The Day tonight

Five of the six games cancelled due to covid. If that isn’t a sign that action is needed I don’t know what could be.

 

[elbows]

 

[Wilf]

Match Of The Day tonight

Five of the six games cancelled due to covid. If that isn’t a sign that action is needed I don’t know what could be.

There's an extra ingredient with football, with a significant number refusing vaccines, which must play havoc with the 'bubbles', but... yeah.

 

[weepiper]

Plague Island.

 

[editor]

A friend is having his birthday drink in a pub tonight. His FB feed is one long stream of people saying that they cant make it because they've got Covid, with a few others saying that they're not prepared to risk it as they'll be off to see their parents soon over Xmas.

It's never been anywhere remotely as bad as this in the past. I's a tsunami, not a wave around these parts,

 

[Supine]

There's an extra ingredient with football, with a significant number refusing vaccines, which must play havoc with the 'bubbles', but... yeah.

Football has been an embarrassment throughout. No masks off pitch, no social distancing when people score etc etc.

I was actually suprised though that EFL players are vaxxed almost as much as the general population.

 

[Flavour]

it's disgusting and cynical this government strategy to avoid having to pay furlough or give any support to hospitality/other affected industries by not closing it down but telling people to avoid going out. need more strike action

 

[Wilf]

Football has been an embarrassment throughout. No masks off pitch, no social distancing when people score etc etc.

I was actually suprised though that EFL players are vaxxed almost as much as the general pollution.

Yeah, I've not looked for a bit, but it was Prem League players who had relatively low rates. I agree that it doesn't look good and players/managers never managed to stick with fist bumps, so there's been every bit as much hugging as before. Presumably, bubbles and testing have just about worked until recently. The one big issue was Euro 2020, reportedly leading to the previous highest daily peak in the Summer.

 

[quimcunx]

Match Of The Day tonight

Five of the six games cancelled due to covid. If that isn’t a sign that action is needed I don’t know what could be.

snooker was on earlier. About 4 people in the audience wearing masks.

 

[Supine]

snooker was on earlier. About 4 people in the audience wearing masks.

Luckily they are all young and healthy!

 

[Wilf]

it's disgusting and cynical this government strategy to avoid having to pay furlough or give any support to hospitality/other affected industries by not closing it down but telling people to avoid going out. need more strike action

Yep, it's also so fucking depressing as we go round that way again. Very high figures... warnings from scientists they need to act now... government going on about 'balance' and vaccines... people facing losing their jobs again... appalling sick pay provision. I fucking hate these cunts.

 

[Calamity1971]

Germany has put us on the red list if anyone is thinking of travelling. 20/12/21.