Yes, I think that's certainly right from a personal risk perspective.
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Yes, I think that's certainly right from a personal risk perspective.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Reinstated post as all sorted out now.
I didn't realise bookings were live for people over 45. Just had a very strange 5 minutes on Twitter where a TV historian and his mate helped me get booked up.
Anyway, cool story bro but in case anyone else here is still under 50 here's the link.
Book, change, or cancel a COVID-19 vaccination appointment online
Book, change or cancel a COVID-19 vaccination appointment online.www.nhs.uk
Does this work for second vaccinations?
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
It let me book my second one at the beginning of July but no idea if it works for people who have already had their first.
Steel Icarus
we move
It wouldn't let me book just one.
I didn't go. It's not a big pub, no garden, people queueing to basically drink at a table in the street. And it wasn't warm. So fuck that.
magneze
🎧
Yes, if you've had a first one, go to "manage my appointments" and you can book your second.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Booked!
I was getting antsy, first was 7th Feb and I've heard nothing since.
I was getting antsy, first was 7th Feb and I've heard nothing since.
elbows
Well-Known Member
BBC are starting to cover that aspect a bit more these days:
Covid: Younger Brazilians fall ill as cases explode
Research suggests more than half of patients being treated in intensive care last month were under 40.
www.bbc.co.uk
I havent looked at the science of that strain much yet, partly because I usually get frustrated by a lack of data. But I will spend a bit more time on it in the weeks ahead, now that things seem a little clearer.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Ooh can you do this?
elbows
Well-Known Member
I should also say that when looking at Brazil, have to take into account that death rates go up when healthcare systems reach a state of collapse, and thats how their system has been described recently. Also when demand outstrips supply, intensive care rationing may skew figures, in that younger people are less likely to be denied intensive care, and this can be quite a large phenomenon when the overall number of cases is massive.
However I am not suggesting that these factors explain the picture there completely, it is reasonable to think that the strain in question affects the young more than other strains and this is a major cause for concern.
However I am not suggesting that these factors explain the picture there completely, it is reasonable to think that the strain in question affects the young more than other strains and this is a major cause for concern.
elbows
Well-Known Member
The 11:38 entry on the BBC live updates page features Johnson saying the sorts of things people might be more used to me saying than Johnson saying.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Read the page
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I’ve had the first and should be having mine in a couple of weeks, so dunno whether I should book or wait til summoned
prunus
Tick tock.
It’s worth remembering that for all the headlines about 4,200 deaths in a day, worst it’s ever been in Brazil, that death rate is (per capita) about the same as it was here in the UK at the beginning of the year.
prunus
Tick tock.
I think you can only book through the nhs booking system if your first was done through that system - if you took up an appt from an invitation from your gp or local gp network you have to wait until you get your second invitation. But have a go and see?
Of course and that's why what is happening in Brazil is important because none of us want to go back to that*.
*Well most of us, some do like Mark Harper and that twat Fox etc.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
In fact, a bit lower.
This is averaged over the whole country of course, in both cases. So ignores the fact that there could be localised outbreaks in Brazil that might be worse than any of the UK's localised outbreaks.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
They need 50% of the sides open, I guess that's just not included in that particular photo.
magneze
🎧
No, that's wrong. I had an appointment from my GP and was able to book 2nd vaccination on the website.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
You can, the rules changed on the 29th March, "outdoor gatherings (including in private gardens) of either 6 people (the Rule of 6) or 2 households will also be allowed, making it easier for friends and families to meet outside."
COVID-19 Response - Spring 2021 (Summary)
I suppose a part of the increase in mortality could be due to hospitals being overwhelmed by the number of cases.
Actually, why is the Brazil v UK comparison important / relevant?
Surely its just enough to know the situation in Brazil is very bad and would appear to be caused by a strain which spreads rapidly and is seemingly more virulent amongst younger age groups than other strains?
Surely its just enough to know the situation in Brazil is very bad and would appear to be caused by a strain which spreads rapidly and is seemingly more virulent amongst younger age groups than other strains?
prunus
Tick tock.
Ah ok, thanks for the correction. Did you choose book or manage your appointments to book the second one do you remember?
magneze
🎧
The second one: "manage your appointments". It already knew I'd had the first and gave me a small range of dates and locations for the second. I'm booked with a local pharmacy.
If my GP contacts me before for a 2nd jab then I'll cancel the appointment but it looks like it's all connected together so I'm not really expecting that to happen.
bimble
floofy
I don't know where to put this but have a question:
If I have an antibody test which comes up positive, as in it thinks i have had covid in the past, would that mean i have some degree of immunity against both catching and spreading the virus that's comparable (i don't mean the same i mean can i find information allowing a comparison) to the effect of having a first dose of vaccine?
If I have an antibody test which comes up positive, as in it thinks i have had covid in the past, would that mean i have some degree of immunity against both catching and spreading the virus that's comparable (i don't mean the same i mean can i find information allowing a comparison) to the effect of having a first dose of vaccine?
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
I was expressing an opinion, not quoting the legal guidelines.
Supine
Newt Member
It has not been studied enough yet. It helps but no comparisons can be made. I believe it is reasonably well established that getting vaccinated, even if you have antibodies, helps your immune system in dealing with further infections.
But the speed of the reduction in deaths especially is down to the vaccine. That's seen clearly in the rates dropping faster in older age groups, i.e. those which have been vaccinated (unless that has changed recently?). The blond buffoon's own fucking slides showed that, guess he's already forgotten what his scientists presented us with a few weeks ago. Why is he trying to play down the success of his own vaccine rollout, the one thing he seems to have got right in the last year?
Leighsw2
strictly off the record
So, as I prepare to take my place in the queue for PCR testing in Lambeth, what do we know about the AZ vaccine and the South African variant? I ask as on Monday I had my first vaguely 'normal' day since March 2020 - three weeks and two days after my vaccination, I went out for a walk and did a bit of casual shopping (got some bits and bobs from Morleys and popped into Boots and Sainsbury's). Then the next day I find out there's a cluster of South African variant in Lambeth and we all have to get tested. Just when I thought the day of liberation had arrived, are we back to square one? Do I close the door of my flat and never venture out again? What to do? Help!
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