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teuchter said:
The percentage reductions in cases aren't really growing, they are visibly levelling off with perhaps a slight downwards tip in the past few days if we are optimistic. The Zoe graph shows a very clear levelling-off. And hospital admissions are also levelling off. The good news is really centred on the death rates.
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Picture has become too mixed for me to fully persist with the 'things have levelled off' stuff I've been going on about for a couple of weeks. The next weeks worth of ZOE data will be interesting because some of the areas that levelled off for a good while in their data might be going down again, but its way premature for me to say that with any confidence.

As for hospital admissions, if you are looking at UK admission figures on the government dashboard then you are probably being misled. They are missing a lot of recent Scottish admissions data so the latest UK figure currently showing there is for February 20th! I will post the England hospital admissions by region graph later.
 
cupid_stunt said:
This just keeps getting better, with percentage reductions in both new cases & deaths growing. :thumbs:

Vaccinations - 1st dose just over 20.478 m & 2nd dose over 8445k.

New cases - 6,391, down -29.4% in the last week, and down over 2k on last Tuesday's 8,489, bringing the 7-day average down to around 7,680.

New deaths - 343, down -36% in the last week, and down 205 on last Tuesday's 548, bringing the 7-day average down to around 285.
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I'm not just being negative for the sake of it or because I detest how this government have allowed the number of deaths to reach 140,000, this just doesn't feel like a great place to be at. So much better than a few weeks ago but still, 2000 or so dying each week is horrific. Statistically, I'm not sure when the vaccination of all over 50s will hit the death rate, but that point seems to me the place where we can judge where things are up to. Realise there are lots of factors in play, but the reductions so far seen seem to be broadly the consequences of lockdown. Everything since the late January death peak is welcome, but it's been a case of slowly undoing the damage done late Autumn. Glass half... broken.
 
Note the reaction to a small spike in cases on the Isle of Man.

3 weeks lockdown from 00:01 on Wednesday, announced a couple of hours ago (ie approx 15:00 as it is now 17:24). This is their Third such "snap" circuit-breaker, imposed as there is an unidentified transmission route (after allowing for the cases leading back to the Steam Packet employee).

Covid-19: Isle of Man in 'circuit-breaker' lockdown after spike in cases - BBC News
 
Here is hoping they manage to find this person infected by the Brazilian variant and trace their movements.

I don't quite understand the logic of taking a test without adding the method by which you could be told the result.

Does anyone know what kind of test it was, how and where administered etc ..? Perhaps that would illuminate.
 
weltweit said:
Here is hoping they manage to find this person infected by the Brazilian variant and trace their movements.

I don't quite understand the logic of taking a test without adding the method by which you could be told the result.

Does anyone know what kind of test it was, how and where administered etc ..? Perhaps that would illuminate.
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According to the beeb, it was a home test kit ...
 
Hospital Covid-19 admissions/diagnoses for England that I said I would post earlier.

The first two are smoothed using 7 day averages for clarity, but I've included thr raw ones too in case the averaged ones mask any interesting detail.

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Made using data from the daily spreadsheet at Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity

The dashboard uses the same data these days, but tends to be a day behind, and even longer if only looking at UK total figures rather than drilling down to individual nations and regions.
 
StoneRoad said:
According to the beeb, it was a home test kit ...
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Even stranger then that the individual didn't identify themselves on the form. AFAICT you have to request a home test, or opt into the national monitoring one so there would have been no oppression for them to be rebelling against.

Perhaps that will help the search, if they have narrowed it down to a smallish number of houses as I believe they have perhaps there is a record of which of those were sent home testing kits to narrow it further.
 
elbows said:
Hospital Covid-19 admissions/diagnoses for England that I said I would post earlier.

The first two are smoothed using 7 day averages for clarity, but I've included thr raw ones too in case the averaged ones mask any interesting detail.

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Made using data from the daily spreadsheet at Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity

The dashboard uses the same data these days, but tends to be a day behind, and even longer if only looking at UK total figures rather than drilling down to individual nations and regions.
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Unless I'm missing something that doesn't look particularly like levelling off to me. Sure those are still really high numbers but that was always going to be the case given the height it got to. Of course we'd all like to see a much sharper decline but given the stage we're at I'm just happy that the numbers are going in the right direction the way they are.
 
Teaboy said:
Unless I'm missing something that doesn't look particularly like levelling off to me. Sure those are still really high numbers but that was always going to be the case given the height it got to. Of course we'd all like to see a much sharper decline but given the stage we're at I'm just happy that the numbers are going in the right direction the way they are.
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I didnt post those charts to show anything negative and I specifically responded to an earlier post about hospitalisations levelling off by saying that they werent, and that the overall UK figures on the dashboard that gave that impression are out of date.
 
elbows said:
I didnt post those charts to show anything negative and I specifically responded to an earlier post about hospitalisations levelling off by saying that they werent, and that the overall UK figures on the dashboard that gave that impression are out of date.
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Yes, badly worded on my part. It was more aimed at the posts above yours.
 
Its partly my fault anyway, I forgot that I had not explicitly said they werent levelling off earlier, just that the UK dashboard figures were misleading. I was supposed to make that point more clearly when I posted the charts later, but I forgot and just let the charts do the talking.
 
Oh bollocks.

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Hospital struggling to access enough rapid Covid-19 testing kits

The issue at the George Eliot Hospital in Nuneaton was revealed in a report to the board
www.coventrytelegraph.net www.coventrytelegraph.net

Patients admitted into the 'Eliot as an emergency are given a Covid-19 test to ensure that they do not bring the virus into the wards.

If they do test positive, then they can be treated on dedicated Covid wards.

But Mr Burley explains that supplies are not matching the demand.
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"The national position on Covid testing has generally improved, there are now very few stories about access to testing as both Pillar 1 (NHS) and Pillar 2 (independent sector) has increased daily capacity which now consistently exceeds demand," he said.

"Within the hospital though we are still experiencing poor access to rapid testing due to consumables supply issues.

"The supply of cartridges to rapid testing platforms is being managed centrally and this has still not enabled sufficient supply to regularly match the volumes of emergency admissions.

"National colleagues are now looking at alternative platforms to plug that gap and concentrating supply lines to existing platforms which are functions on various sites across the country."
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I say oh bollocks because I do not consider the following solution to be in any way acceptable.

"To help to address this, A&E departments were recently advised that they could use lateral flow tests to identify possible positive cases. As lateral flow is a less sensitive test, these then have to be confirmed by the more reliable Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test," the report continues.
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StoneRoad said:
Note the reaction to a small spike in cases on the Isle of Man.

3 weeks lockdown from 00:01 on Wednesday, announced a couple of hours ago (ie approx 15:00 as it is now 17:24). This is their Third such "snap" circuit-breaker, imposed as there is an unidentified transmission route (after allowing for the cases leading back to the Steam Packet employee).

Covid-19: Isle of Man in 'circuit-breaker' lockdown after spike in cases - BBC News
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It's an absolute government shambles here.
 
So my office is now going to open for two weeks from 29th March if people want to come in and pick stuff up from their desks, then after that will have limited opening for people who really want to come in - they're clear there's no compulsion, but they do know there are a few people who have genuine difficulty WFH full-time. I'll probably stick at home for the foreseeable as going in only introduces childcare issues and my other half's working situation is variable. Will also want to see what my team want to do - I don't want to go in if it's just be, but if, say everyone else wants to be in one day (and we're allowed to), then I'd probably join them. I'm still not massively sure what the point is in that we'll basically be glued to our desk so 'teamworking' and 'collaborating' still won't be possible in a greatly more meaningful sense than on screen as we can't do meetings or training all together in one room.
 
existentialist said:
I think that this is maybe why our new friend is so keen to leap to his defence :hmm:
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And why you are so keen to attack him, presumably. Nothing to do with reality, just politics?

If you look at what I actually wrote, I was pointing out that he has to think about the economy BUT that whether he was doing the right things was a different matter. But hey, why not assume I'm a hedge fund manager? I wish!
 
Cid said:
Hint: UK suffers biggest drop in economic output in 300 years
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Yes, my point exactly. Although, as people on here will be surely keen to point out, part of that was down to Boris (not Sunak) choosing to lock down late, having longer lockdowns as a result, etc. It's not all down to Sunak, though of course he can easily take the blame if BoJo wants to divest himself of a potential future rival (or cover up Brexit failures). At no point did I say I necessarily supported what Sunak has been doing, just pointing out that it's his job to do so. That doesn't mean he necessarily does his job well. Doesn't mean he does it badly either, of course. Time will tell, but for pretty much every success he has had a failure (3 million self employed would testify to that, for instance).
 
MJ100 said:
And why you are so keen to attack him, presumably. Nothing to do with reality, just politics?

If you look at what I actually wrote, I was pointing out that he has to think about the economy BUT that whether he was doing the right things was a different matter. But hey, why not assume I'm a hedge fund manager? I wish!
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This is going nowhere.
 
MJ100 said:
And why you are so keen to attack him, presumably. Nothing to do with reality, just politics?

If you look at what I actually wrote, I was pointing out that he has to think about the economy BUT that whether he was doing the right things was a different matter. But hey, why not assume I'm a hedge fund manager? I wish!
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Nobody thinks you're a hedge fund manager. We just think you're a cunt.
 
MJ100 said:
Yes, my point exactly. Although, as people on here will be surely keen to point out, part of that was down to Boris (not Sunak) choosing to lock down late, having longer lockdowns as a result, etc. It's not all down to Sunak, though of course he can easily take the blame if BoJo wants to divest himself of a potential future rival (or cover up Brexit failures). At no point did I say I necessarily supported what Sunak has been doing, just pointing out that it's his job to do so. That doesn't mean he necessarily does his job well. Doesn't mean he does it badly either, of course. Time will tell, but for pretty much every success he has had a failure (3 million self employed would testify to that, for instance).
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Eat out to help out.

Also, according to this Johnson was ready to lock down back in September (you know, when we should have done) your hero dishy Rishi threw his rich boy toys out of the pram 48 hours in September when ministers and scientists split over Covid lockdown

And the idea that it's a balancing act between the economy and public health is bollocks. Fail to prioritise public health in a pandemic and the economy is fucked, worse than restrictions and the right time will fuck it, as Sunak and Johnson's reckless actions have proven.
 
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