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beesonthewhatnow said:
I’m unashamed to say I’ve quite enjoyed the last year, in spite of everything. The enforced slowdown, less pressure to socialise, the glimpse of what cities can be like with no cars, rediscovering a love of simple things like a walk in the park, etc etc

I’m ready for things to open again. But not at the risk of more needless deaths. Yet again, our government is going down the wrong path.
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it's a pity they can't be the canary in the coalmine

also the government will always go down the wrong path, they are unable to to do anything else.
 
FridgeMagnet said:
My immediate response is to say the schools will be a disaster, mostly because every time this govt relaxes measures it turns out to be too soon, badly done, or otherwise wrong. It's getting quite hard to separate that inductive reasoning from actually thinking about the pros and cons. Maybe I'm better off just not thinking about it at all because there is fuck all I can do anyway.
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That's exactly the conclusion I cam to at the end of last year. I put this sub-forum on ignore not because of anyone here but I knew it was all going to shit and it would stay shit and there was nothing I could do about it apart from just go about my own business in a low risk way. It actually worked quite well and I'm only beginning to lift my head now because there was supposed to be some sort of roadmap but it doesn't sound like it will be anything detailed.

Oh well.
 
It really is quite something to behold, no matter what is revealed tonight a lot of people are going to be very upset.

I can't think of anything else so divisive.
 
elbows said:
And yet all throughout this pandemic this pandemic forum has not been terribly divisive compared to other issues that have been discussed around these parts over the years.
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And, likewise amongst the general public, where support remains very high for restrictions to be lifted very slowly, to ensure we don't end-up in such a bloody mess again.
 
cupid_stunt said:
And, likewise amongst the general public, where support remains very high for restrictions to be lifted very slowly, to ensure we don't end-up in such a bloody mess again.
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Yes. So really not divisive at all. Except, perhaps, to that minority of the population who, for whatever reason, are keen to throw caution to the wind and thus need to manufacture some sort of division in order to claim some legitimacy for their position.
 
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cupid_stunt said:
And, likewise amongst the general public, where support remains very high for restrictions to be lifted very slowly, to ensure we don't end-up in such a bloody mess again.
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Yeah, its not exactly Brexit-like is it? Political parties can only dream of that level of support.

This pandemic, as expected, did nothing for my faith in systems and power, the establishment and orthodox approaches. But it did a lot of good for my faith in humanity and the ability of people to make informed, rational judgements.
 
Unless they're planning on improving track, trace and support, my kids will just be back on the isolation merry go round, which will finish me off. Schools being back last time was a lie in many ways as they just ignored how disruptive it was.
 
None of it bothers me that much apart from the schools. Opening now just for a few weeks when the cases/deaths are falling seems mad. Rushing the kids back for 2/3 weeks before their easter holidays is madness and cause problems.

Hopefully the vaccinations will ease the impact but it is too soon.
 
People wanting restrictions lifted early appear to be a fairly small minority according to the latest Savanta ComRes survey.

Boris Johnson has failed to win voters’ trust that he can take England safely out of the coronavirus lockdown, according to a new poll.

The Savanta ComRes survey for The Independent found that fewer than a quarter (24 per cent) of people in England trust the prime minister “completely” or “a lot” to lift restrictions in a safe way, against 31 per cent who said they do not trust him to do so.

And the poll showed voters across the UK want Mr Johnson to act cautiously in his roadmap for the return to normality, due to be set out on Monday.
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But just 26 per cent of those questioned agreed that children should go back to school in early March, as the PM has suggested. A further 26 per cent said he should wait until after the Easter holidays and 38 per cent later.

And there was little appetite for any other relaxations of restrictions in the coming weeks, with just 15 per cent saying that the “rule of six” should be restored in March, to allow social gatherings of up to six people outdoors.

Only 17 per cent backed the return of hairdressers, barbers and beauty salons, 16 per cent non-essential shops and 12 per cent pubs, cafes and restaurants next month.
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Just 7 per cent across the UK said they wanted to get rid of social distancing rules and masks in indoor public spaces in March, 7 per cent in April and 16 per cent by the summer.

By contrast, 25 per cent said they were willing for social distancing and 24 per cent mask-wearing to remain in place until the end of 2021. Some 26 per cent said both practices should continue into 2022.
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www.independent.co.uk

Voters do not trust Boris Johnson to take country out of lockdown safely, poll finds

Exclusive: Survey for The Independent finds Britons cautious about return to normal life
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
Badgers said:
None of it bothers me that much apart from the schools. Opening now just for a few weeks when the cases/deaths are falling seems mad. Rushing the kids back for 2/3 weeks before their easter holidays is madness and cause problems.

Hopefully the vaccinations will ease the impact but it is too soon.
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i think johnson misheard the queen when she said she didn't want him bringing her problems but solutions
 
Unless it is to carry on with the current pattern for a while longer, at least until people are vaccinated & have developed the required immunity, anything else the haystack announces is relaxing too soon.

From experience, secondary schools are too much of a petri-dish / super-spreader ...
 
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