Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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SighDelayed until 15 Feb apparently
Probably to allow the Tories to buy shares in hotel chains or something.
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
We'll be bringing in this emergency measure in a few weeks' time.Delayed until 15 Feb apparently
FFS
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
In good news the government is allegedly hoping to vaccinate every adult by the end of May.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
It's firm decisive action like this that's really done us proud in the last year
Sage warned No 10 over South African Covid variant weeks ago
Government scientists had warned that only mandatory hotel quarantine for all travellers would prevent new coronavirus strains from arriving in the country before it emerged that the South African variant was spreading in Britain. Boris Johnson announced limited hotel quarantine measures last...
www.thetimes.co.uk
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Sage warned No 10 over South African Covid variant weeks ago
Government scientists had warned that only mandatory hotel quarantine for all travellers would prevent new coronavirus strains from arriving in the country before it emerged that the South African variant was spreading in Britain. Boris Johnson announced limited hotel quarantine measures last...
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
I was dbs checked when I started volunteering for the Red Cross, but I am not allowed to take people in my car because of the Covid risk.
If it was going to be organised, it would have to be on an informal basis. Round here, a shout out on Facebook would find volunteer drivers, but I don't think you would get to the people in real need of the service, because a lot of them are not using the internet.
souljacker
innit
I just don't understand why the reluctance to close our borders properly. Hardly any country out there is letting us in anyway so who are these oh so important people that need to be flying in and out of the UK all the time? Is it just Boris' dad trying to flog his house in Greece that we are waiting for? Or is he waiting until Alok Sharma comes back from his little trip to Africa?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
This was on the local news earlier, I assume other counties are/will be doing to same, they plan to vaccinate 200 people a day, and adding more buses if required.
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www.gponline.com
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GPs use bus as mobile COVID-19 vaccine clinic to boost uptake
GPs in West Sussex are using a converted bus as a mobile vaccination clinic to try to boost uptake of the COVID-19 vaccine in vulnerable patients in the area.
www.gponline.com
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
My ex got her prescription picked up by using NHS Volunteers when self isolating last week.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
from the beeb live feed.
Because: we can't stop these people coming here to spend their money, pretty please.
Apparently Sturgeon is thinking of doing this.
souljacker
innit
I wonder if it's significant that the quote is from the universities minister. Is it returning overseas students that we want coming in? The work I've done in uni's over the last few years has made it pretty clear that it's Chinese students that are keeping the UK Uni sector afloat.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I notice this morning that the list of areas where this new SA variant has been detected includes one very near me.
I'm fairly sure that wasn't part of the list yesterday...
I saw it on the news last night. It was the only postcode I knew.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
That's possibly the thinking behind it, I can't see them returning for a while now though, especially with face to face mostly not happening for the foreseeable.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
Yes, I can do that too, but there's a difference between using your car to get stuff and putting a person into a confined space with you.
miss direct
misfungled
The delay in a proper quarantine system is utterly pathetic. Last year I paid three times the usual price to travel back from Turkey, via bloody Belarus and got breathed on a bunch of covid ignoring idiots, because I was in fear of the quarantine measures being introduced (and had nowhere to do it). That was in MAY last year. Having said that, Turkey had, and has reintroduced quarantine (state operated and free), and it doesn't seem to have significantly helped reduce the spread.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
It is getting the balance right between public health & the risk to the economy.
Johnson January 13th.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
If handchuck & the haystack actually want to stop community spread of that SA variant (& any other new variant) by people being told (not asked) to stay home, then they need to say exactly where the d**** thing has been found. tbh, I'm quite sure that it is already in the community, probably spread by people who've been to SA (or in contact with others who have been there) ...
for example - my local area had a steep spike in infections in November, suspected [by us locals wot do some studying of statistics] to have been the Kent variant, but as far as I know, that has not been confirmed. But the suspicion prompted this household, and others, to confine themselves to their own homes.
for example - my local area had a steep spike in infections in November, suspected [by us locals wot do some studying of statistics] to have been the Kent variant, but as far as I know, that has not been confirmed. But the suspicion prompted this household, and others, to confine themselves to their own homes.
2hats
Dust.
"Allegedly hoping" seems suitably nebulous. Everyone 18 and older to receive two doses by the end of May? Good luck with that.
Cid
Proper break this time
It's not even particularly good logic if that was the case... the decision to spend 1-3 years studying in the UK isn't going to be that affected by quarantine (I mean current students have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine going back). I suppose it might affect those doing short language course, but honestly that vs 'travel to a virus-ridden hell hole with unpredictable lockdowns, new strains circulating and no real guarantee of face to face teaching' is er... Yeah... I don't think quarantine is the major component there.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
That is good news, though the original deadline of September was ridiculous. From what I remember, they aimed to get the top 7 groups done by the end of March, who together added up to more than half of the adult population. It was always going to be well before September.
DId anyone watch the latest Indie Sage? Some fairly worrying although not entirely suprising data on long Covid, particularly in young people. 1 in 8 primary age children and 1 in 7 secondary age with a positive test still have symptoms at 5 weeks according to ONS.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Long covid isn't a very helpful term without significant additional info tbh, there's a variety of symptoms and they can last a variety of time. And 5 weeks is a very short time scale for discussing any long term impact of being infected.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
One dose, which provides protection until the second dose. I don't become vaccinated for tetanus only after completing a series of 10-year boosters.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
isn't september for having had the required two doses rather than half?
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
I'm following the vaccination stats with considerable interest (histogram nicked orf the beeb)...
The recent daily average - despite some low days - seems to be close to or even exceeding the 15 million by 15th February target.
Covid - UK; daily vax first dose [29Jan2021] par StoneRoad2013, on ipernity
I'm hopeful that the higher number days will become even more frequent. There'll be several factors at play here - supply of vaccine, suitable places to be hubs and the availability of arms to be jabbed ...
The recent daily average - despite some low days - seems to be close to or even exceeding the 15 million by 15th February target.
Covid - UK; daily vax first dose [29Jan2021] par StoneRoad2013, on ipernity
I'm hopeful that the higher number days will become even more frequent. There'll be several factors at play here - supply of vaccine, suitable places to be hubs and the availability of arms to be jabbed ...
It's true that long Covid is a mixed bag, in that in people with a severe acute infection there are a bunch of persistent symptoms that you would expect to see given the nature of the initial infection. But there is also the possibility of both occult multi-organ damage even in mild or asymptomatic infections, and of a persistent immune disregulation arising from mild Covid infections. There is almost no data at all on persistent symptoms in young people, but I find it quite concerning that what little information there is suggests at least some persistence beyond what you would expect from the acute infection. In the meantime schools will be re-opened as parents are assured that it is very unlikely that any significant number of children will come to harm, when to my mind there is insufficient evidence that this is actually the case.
At least two of the experts on there expressed concerns particularly about neurological injury, is it wise to dismiss that possibility out of hand?
At least two of the experts on there expressed concerns particularly about neurological injury, is it wise to dismiss that possibility out of hand?
2hats
Dust.
Not vaccinated then.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
No, I disagree with your assertion that someone who has only had one dose hasn't been vaccinated. That's not the correct terminology. They haven't completed the vaccination course but they certainly have been vaccinated. See Hep A for example.
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