Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[2hats]

As with the Google data I used, levels seen in March and April were really quite impressive. A similar thing in November would have been good to see, but of course such levels were neither aimed for nor achieved. And as for the current situation, still early in that period from a data point of view but things dont look that promising, and I wont be surprised if the government end up feeling the need to close more workplaces.

Citymapper data likewise.

 

[brogdale]

more than 1000 dead again today

 

[2hats]

what do the colours mean? what's 1.00 (dark purple)?

Assuming 1000:100k (that's what's used elsewhere anyway).

ETA Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

Although looking at that again, I don't think it is that so .

It is fraction of positive tests with the S protein assay dropout which is a proxy for the B.1.1.7 variant (SGTF=S-gene target failures). In other words, what fraction of infected people in that area, who have been tested, appear to be infected with the new variant.

 

[brogdale]

and they wonder why people call them scum...

 

[Mation]

and they wonder why people call them scum...

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Tbh, I think it's a good thing they've been vaccinated and have said so.

They're in the first priority age bracket, and there's a chance it might encourage some reluctant people to get vaccinated. At this point I'm in favour of anything innocuous that helps that along, even from them.

 

[editor]

Look at these morons

Handful of anti-lockdown protesters march through Brixton, Sat 9th Jan 2021

Earlier today, a handful of anti-lockdown protesters made their way through Brixton town centre after an anticipated rally in Windrush Square failed to gain traction.

www.brixtonbuzz.com

 

[brogdale]

Tbh, I think it's a good thing they've been vaccinated and have said so.

They're in the first priority age bracket, and there's a chance it might encourage some reluctant people to get vaccinated. At this point I'm in favour of anything innocuous that helps that along, even from them.

As may be, but today certainly doesn't look like a good day, let alone a great one; fucking psychopath

 

[platinumsage]

Definitely best for them to have got vaccinated in the middle of the over 80s group vaccinations. Too early and it would lead to talk of favoritism which might have led to similar unwarranted accusations against others. Too late and it might have encouraged others to try and move down the queue for altruistic reasons which would have disrupted the rollout.

 

[Mation]

As may be, but today certainly doesn't look like a good day, let alone a great one; fucking psychopath

There isn't going to be a good day any time soon enough. Everyone who can get vaccinated, without queue-jumping, should, asap.

 

[Mation]

As may be, but today certainly doesn't look like a good day, let alone a great one; fucking psychopath

Only just got what you meant re a good day/great day.

Yep. Agreed.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Look at these morons

Handful of anti-lockdown protesters march through Brixton, Sat 9th Jan 2021

Earlier today, a handful of anti-lockdown protesters made their way through Brixton town centre after an anticipated rally in Windrush Square failed to gain traction.

www.brixtonbuzz.com

At least it's only a 'handful' of twats.

 

[agricola]

Tbh, I think it's a good thing they've been vaccinated and have said so.

They're in the first priority age bracket, and there's a chance it might encourage some reluctant people to get vaccinated. At this point I'm in favour of anything innocuous that helps that along, even from them.

That they got it weeks after Murdoch did is frankly disgusting.

 

[TopCat]

The absolute state of these dangerous clowns...

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Mad cunts.

 

[Mation]

That they got it weeks after Murdoch did is frankly disgusting.

Other way round?

 

[killer b]

That they got it weeks after Murdoch did is frankly disgusting.

who cares? all three should be rendered down for glue.

 

[20Bees]

I'd go for 2 or 3 days before, if possible. How quickly will you get the results?

I’d go for after - risk to children is tiny compared to risk to coworkers. Though it’s probably somewhat academic given a week’s timescale. Depends how quickly it shows up on tests, which I really don’t know.

Thank you. The ‘Rapid Testing‘ facility at work uses lateral flow tests, with the result available within an hour. Initially intended for staff expecting to isolate after being identified as a contact of someone testing positive - they could be tested before their shift for seven consecutive days and as long as the results were negative, they could work that day. Now they recommend all staff take a weekly test for peace of mind (and, of course, to pick up asymptomatic positives). They have targets but testing is entirely optional.

My grandson is with his father on Saturday and mother on Sunday, with me on Tuesday, nursery the other days. Mother working from home, father an FE teacher. I can be tested on Monday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday. Over a week perhaps it makes little difference but if there is an optimum time to be tested after contact with the little one, it makes sense to book a slot accordingly.

 

[Cid]

Thank you. The ‘Rapid Testing‘ facility at work uses lateral flow tests, with the result available within an hour. Initially intended for staff expecting to isolate after being identified as a contact of someone testing positive - they could be tested before their shift for seven consecutive days and as long as the results were negative, they could work that day. Now they recommend all staff take a weekly test for peace of mind (and, of course, to pick up asymptomatic positives). They have targets but testing is entirely optional.

My grandson is with his father on Saturday and mother on Sunday, with me on Tuesday, nursery the other days. Mother working from home, father an FE teacher. I can be tested on Monday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday. Over a week perhaps it makes little difference but if there is an optimum time to be tested after contact with the little one, it makes sense to book a slot accordingly.

I meant more in the sense I don't know how long it takes before infection with covid is detectable via a test. Afaik it isn't detectable during the incubation period... So the timing probably doesn't matter that much. Though by that logic scratch my previous suggestion and test 4-5 days post-childcare. Also lateral flow shouldn't give too much confidence iirc. If it tells you you have covid, you almost certainly have. But I think it's only something like 50:50 as to whether it picks it up... Fine for community testing, but not great otherwise.

 

[teuchter]

Figures are down a bit today, 59,937 new cases reported, and 1,035 new deaths, which is a big increase on last Saturday's 445, but that was suppressed because of the new year bank holiday on the Friday, causing a lag in reporting.

It does, however, take the 7-day average daily deaths from 815 yesterday to 899 or 900 today, very near the peak of 943 on 14th April.

No. They are not the daily deaths. They are the daily reported deaths. Again.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

The absolute state of these dangerous clowns...

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I thought places of worship had been closed?
Not that I don't expect a whole bunch of some of the more extreme faithfull to ignore this.

Look at these morons

Handful of anti-lockdown protesters march through Brixton, Sat 9th Jan 2021

Earlier today, a handful of anti-lockdown protesters made their way through Brixton town centre after an anticipated rally in Windrush Square failed to gain traction.

www.brixtonbuzz.com

no face I know in there which is good.
12 arrested outside the sainsbury in Clapham

 

[cupid_stunt]

No. They are not the daily deaths. They are the daily reported deaths. Again.

I said 'reported' in the first paragraph, do I seriously have to keep reposting that throughout a post for the hard of understanding?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Still relevant (it's got a petition for an enquiry attached to)

 

[teuchter]

I said 'reported' in the first paragraph, do I seriously have to keep reposting that throughout a post for the hard of understanding?

I believe that many people will have read your post and come away with the understanding that it's been established that nearly as many people died in the past week as did in the worst week of the first wave.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I believe that many people will have read your post and come away with the understanding that it's been established that nearly as many people died in the past week as did in the worst week of the first wave.

On the daily reported cases, they have.

 

[teuchter]

On the daily reported cases, they have.

That makes no sense.

 

[elbows]

Take your pick from the menu of things we could do better:

Covid: UK reports more than 80,000 deaths

Another 1,035 people have died, taking the total since the start of the pandemic to 80,868.

www.bbc.co.uk

Prof Robert West, a participant in the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviours (SPI-B), which advises the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), said the current rules were "still allowing a lot of activity which is spreading the virus".
He said the new variant of Covid was around 50% more infectious compared to the virus that infected people last March.
"That means that if we were to achieve the same result as we got in March we would have to have a stricter lockdown, and it (the current regime) is not stricter," he added.
The professor of health psychology at University College London also told the BBC more children were going to school, compared to during the first lockdown.
He said schools were "a very important seed of community infection".
More children are at school, after the Department for Education widened the categories of vulnerable and key worker pupils allowed to attend. Attendance rates have risen to 50% in some places.

Prof Susan Michie, who is also a member of Sage, said the spread of the new, more infectious variant meant current restrictions were "too lax".
"When you look at the data, it shows that almost 90% of people are overwhelmingly adhering to the rules - despite the fact that we're also seeing more people out and about," she told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
She said, in comparison to the first lockdown in spring 2020, more people were allowed to go out to work and children's nurseries were open, making public transport busier.
The number of people travelling by public transport in London has decreased since the latest national lockdown began, with tube journeys now at 18% of the pre-pandemic demand and bus journeys at 30%, according to figures from Transport for London.
However, during the first lockdown passenger numbers fell below 10% at some points.

Prof Kevin Fenton, London regional director for Public Health England, said there were "things we could do better" to reduce the number of infections, including greater compliance with mask wearing and social distancing when shopping and using public transport.
Torsten Bell, chief executive of the Resolution Foundation think tank, told BBC Radio 4's PM programme that the UK's statutory sick pay system was "not fit for purpose for a pandemic" and more effective measures to encourage people to isolate were needed.

Government sources say there is also likely to be more focus from police on enforcing rather than explaining rules.

 

[Cloo]

I'm feeling pessimistic about this year again. Having been 'Oh well, Jan and Feb will be shit but next summer will be at least as open as last summer' I'm not sure about the second bit. There could be more restrictions on travel, we and the US will be considered plague pits and there will be quarantine going anywhere. I was fine not going abroad lasy year, but I'd really got my hopes up to go to my parents' place in Slovakia, seeing as my parents and brother managed it last year, and now I'm not sure it will happen. I think they may be more cautious about reopening things in spring, but even if they do, they may find out they shouldn't have, especially with the new strain. And we'll end up doing our daughter's delayed batmitzvah on Zoom anyway after all that.

Guess I'm just praying that they manage enough vaccinations in the next 8 weeks that it starts to make a noticeable difference in the spring, but I'm not confident.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

I thought places of worship had been closed?

Not in this lockdown, no.

 

[Cloo]

Not in this lockdown, no.

I cannot imagine why - though I suspect ours is not alone in having closed down voluntarily, I think Sadiq Kahn is considering or actually going to ask London places of worship to do the same.

gsv's nephew's bar mitzvah next weekend - all going to be on Zoom, but they planned for that.

 

[zora]

Christmas lockdown breaking neighbour below me is coughing their guts out. NOT a relaxing sound for me. Wondering about virus through floorboards or fireplace creep. But that's just paranoia, right?

 

[Cloo]

Probably, I image you'll be fine.