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Tories pointing the finger......from the FT

There needs to be a reckoning after this

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Author Robert Shrimsley

Viruses do not respect ideology. You cannot persuade a pandemic to seek a middle way. And yet when judgment into the UK’s coronavirus response is finally passed it will be hard to escape the conclusion that excessive attention to Tory dogma has cost both lives and livelihoods. The story of Britain’s crisis has been one of delaying the inevitable until it is unavoidable, a vicious cycle of slow response followed by sharp correction which lasts longer for starting later. This pattern reached a peak on Monday in a juddering reverse which saw a full lockdown. Schools were told to close on the day they reopened, hours after Prime Minister Boris Johnson suggested such a response was not necessary. Allies point to new data, but much of the information was already in plain sight. The UK has been unlucky in the arrival of a more transmissible variant but, in the words of one member of the government’s scientific group for emergencies, “you make your own bad luck”. Scientific advisers are clear that letting an RNA virus expand into the community at the end of 2020 increased the chance of being hit by a virulent mutation. There are no easy choices; each policy is ruinous for someone. Mr Johnson was not wrong to try to contain the virus while keeping schools open, though this depended on disastrously over-optimistic assessments of contact tracing and then mass testing capacity. The mistake was failing to act swiftly when it became clear this strategy was not working. Yet, there has been one other significant factor. Mr Johnson’s decisions have been overly deferential to and fearful of libertarian conservatives and their media outriders. A vocal core of MPs and pundits driven by ideology or contrarianism have argued for fewer restrictions, disputed data and denounced a sinister health establishment. They disdained face masks and argued, with varying degrees of honesty, that higher deaths among the old and infirm are a price worth paying to keep society open. Even after figures showed 1 in 50 have the virus, the Lockdown Sceptics website on Wednesday had a section headed “Where’s the pandemic?” which declared “cases are just positive tests”. That the sceptics knew Mr Johnson’s own instincts were against severe restrictions made no difference. While some Tory MPs were questioning certain measures or government failures, others rubbished the scientific advice, made him sweat over every vote and talked up leadership challenges. They were fortified by increasingly hysterical pundits in the Tory press. These hardline ideologists have inhibited an already indecisive premier. Finally there are signs of a reckoning with reality. Tory sceptics, meeting as the Covid Recovery Group, are now focused on the speed of the vaccination campaign and a more justified assault on the failings of education secretary Gavin Williamson. But the damage has been done. The UK’s death rate and economic prospects are among the worst in Europe. For most of this crisis these backbench MPs and pundits have had a champion to cheer at the top of cabinet. Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, played a key role in fighting for fewer restrictions and challenging scientific advice at decisive moments. Mr Sunak should not be lumped in with the other agitators. He has never denied the seriousness of the pandemic. It was important that someone speaks for public finances and the economy. But his words have been seized on by rightwing MPs who used his status to increase pressure on Mr Johnson. It is also hard not to conclude that he has been at the wrong end of some big calls, not because he spoke for the economy but because he reached the wrong verdict on how best to serve it. At the height of Tory dissatisfaction with Mr Johnson, when MPs were talking up Mr Sunak as an imminent successor, the chancellor talked the prime minister out of a mid-September circuit breaker. One adviser, who pushed for urgent action then, observes “too much airtime” was given to contrarians whose arguments were not supported by data. Between early September and early October, the number of reported daily cases rose from 1,200 to 12,000, necessitating the stricter and more long lasting restrictions that have proved more costly to business. In fairness to the chancellor, his stance might have been more justified had the contact tracing worked better, or mass testing been widely available. But he was aware of the problems. An honest desire to save the hospitality sector has probably made things worse. An excessive focus on the price of furlough and other support led to decisions which probably increased the ultimate cost. Latest coronavirus news Follow FT's live coverage and analysis of the global pandemic and the rapidly evolving economic crisis here. Fighting restrictions has extended the misery. Around the world the economies which are coping best are those which best controlled the epidemic. There is no reason to question Mr Sunak’s motives but his status as an “oven ready” successor spooked the prime minister and made him nervous of facing down sceptics in his party, even though voters support his stance. His insecurity and the ferocious assaults by erstwhile allies led him to pay too much heed to his right flank over his health secretary or advisers. None of this absolves Mr Johnson. It is his job to make the tough calls. But when this crisis is past, the UK would do well to take a hard look at those rightwing pundits and MPs who spent 2020 pressuring him out of decisive action, and to ask if these are people whose views we should still heed in the future.

So they failed to understand that a stitch in time saves nine. And then that nine stitches would save eighty-one.
 
BBC covering ECMO patients at the moment. Absolutely grim as fuck.

I really struggle to think of the people who still go on about this not being real or being over-hyped. I'm not sure I'd be able to control my anger if someone came out with that stuff to my face.
I am glad they are talking about it. The Chinese sent lots of ECMO units to Wuhan early on and I was wondering why they hadn't been mentioned here.
 
So they failed to understand that a stitch in time saves nine. And then that nine stitches would save eighty-one.

They've no excuse for failing to understand it. And the professed to have got it after the first time, they made the right noises, they just werent sincere.

Initial first wave response was a more collective establishment failure and the government did have partial scientific cover for their poor timing and actions. That excuse does not apply from August onwards, at the very latest, when they clearly diverged from what SAGE told them was necessary by failing to 'make room' in the infection picture to allow schools to reopen safely. Further failures to do what SAGE and others were telling them was necessary were obvious in September (failure to do a timely circuit breaker) and then again later with the way they handled tiers, the nature of the November lockdown, and the failure to act upon data showing a worrying picture in the south even whilst the November measures were still in effect.

The list of people who have attempted to influence the public and the political decision making in ways that are dangerous to public health in this pandemic is quite long. I would consider it correct to call these people out and cast some blame their way. I spent a lot of time and energy on a few of those people in the past and dont find myself with much left to give on this front at the moment. I also believe that Johnson was more than capable of committing many of these grotesque mistakes without such influences. I would attach maximum culpability to all concerned, I dont want the blame spread too thinly just because there is so much ground for it to cover.
 
Can you copy & paste the article here? Only that link is behind a paywall.

This didn't come up as paywalled for me btw... Or at least it did when I followed the direct link. But when you put 'Rightwing sceptics helped deepen the UK’s Covid crisis' into google and go via that it isn't. Possibly I haven't used up my allotted FT free articles, but iirc their covid coverage is free.

Reason: mx wcfc your formatting made my eyes bleed. I mean thanks for the effort though :D
 
I am well known for abject failure when it comes to copying stuff from other sites. Sorry. :thumbs:
It is just TLDR I find.

When I am browsing I often have the radio or TV on, it is hard to maintain concentration to read a large piece, in fact if I want to I have to mute my other inputs.

And any lack in paragraphs has the same effect, faced with a wall of text I usually just browse on by.
 
It is just TLDR I find.

When I am browsing I often have the radio or TV on, it is hard to maintain concentration to read a large piece, in fact if I want to I have to mute my other inputs.

And any lack in paragraphs has the same effect, faced with a wall of text I usually just browse on by.
Which is why I tried to link to the article for those who did want to read it. I only scanned it, tbh. I'm still puzzled why the firewalled FT is (still) giving me access to articles (actually via twitter) which just confirm that that I hate capitalism.
 
It is just TLDR I find.

When I am browsing I often have the radio or TV on, it is hard to maintain concentration to read a large piece, in fact if I want to I have to mute my other inputs.

And any lack in paragraphs has the same effect, faced with a wall of text I usually just browse on by.
what does TLDR mean?
 
That's deaths ^, and breaks the daily record of 1,166 set on 21st April. :(

Also a whopping 68,053 new cases, breaking the 62,322 record on the 6th Jan. :(

Fucking hell, we're seriously in the shit. :(
I'm working this weekend and I took part in a high level meeting earlier about what we can expect with general managers / senior clinicians from Ed and us in acute medicine. We are fucked. Surging levels of demand, currently 20 admitted in Ed waiting for beds, predictions of ~70 per day needing admission on sat and Sun with only ~20/day being discharged. We are going to close to minors (as in things not bad enough for majors in Ed- not life/death - as is the other local Trust), as the crowding in Ed will mean we are unable to cohort covid+ patients together.

It's going to be brutal.
 
FT stories are usually free to read when you arrive there directly from the Google results; not so when linking from anywhere else.

I'm not sure an FT op-ed really counts as Tories pointing the finger, although as teuchter would say, something about hills.
 
The act like you got it line is a waste of time, the hardline spreaders almost by definition dont care about others anyway and would only self isolate if they were forcibly locked up or too ill to go out
 
The 10+ people I know who have had covid over the past month, seem all to have contracted it in school as teachers or students or in work in health and social care (through either direct patient/client contact or colleagues), and then through household transmission via these index cases.
Plus the one idiot at my work - god knows where he picked it up, I'd imagine through some reckless behaviour.

I guess that's quite a good reflection of the overall situation - we have the >10% "unreachables", then schools and health and social care.
Aren't these the areas where efforts in reducing transmission should be directed, rather than at those of us have been furloughed or wfh for a year and wondering how to best protect ourselves in the supermarket?

If the unreachables will be convinced by Chris Whitty fronted adverts - I doubt it.
Schools, as has been discussed, have been totally fucked over and are still not being adequately supported, but instead hindered in their efforts to keep key worker classes small. Also imo face coverings should be worn now by all ages, say 6 years onwards, in the classroom.
Better PPE (FFP2 masks) for all health and social care workers and teachers.
Massive tightening of working outside the home, none of this managers randomly deciding their staff "need" some office time, or all these shops can stay open. And/or at the very, very, very minimum, indoor mask wearing by all people on the premises at all times and clear guidance on ventilation.
 
Supermarket was rammed when I left at 5pm today. Mum, Dad and all the kids having a day out at the shops after work.

Other people are just disease-bags to me at this point.
The one I work in was relatively quiet yesterday evening but I expect this morning to be busy with families and couples. We know which of our regular customers need support when shopping but anyone can claim to be unable to go round the store alone. I’m sure most of them could have one wait in the car.

We still count customers in and out, and offer a disposable mask to anyone who has forgotten theirs. Compliance is excellent.

The roads are as busy as normal. Where on earth are they all going??
 
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This is the fault of Boris Johnson, the November lockdown should have stayed. Fuck Xmas
I want him to go to jail to set an example that there are consequences. This is a dereliction of his duty to protect the British people

I know. The insanity is breathtaking. Even now, in this most dire and horrific of situations, they are going "shrug, let's wait for a while and see if this much lighter lockdown than March will work".

Unfortunately, I see little appetite for holding anyone to account. The narrative of "all countries are in this position, plus we got unlucky with this new variant" seems all too well established.
 
The roads are as busy as normal. Where on earth are they all going??

Work. For businesses without a storefront, closing is entirely optional. I believe this and not individual non-compliance was the main reason locldown 1.0 took so long to have any effect, and why infections took a long time to fall.

It's not even on the agenda, closing things like non-essential building sites. Must feel like a right kick in the teeth if your pub or shop has had to close 3 times now and property developers, who in many cases are helping put pubs and shops out of business by driving up rents, haven't even blinked.
 
This is the fault of Boris Johnson, the November lockdown should have stayed. Fuck Xmas
I want him to go to jail to set an example that there are consequences. This is a dereliction of his duty to protect the British people
X for Xmas disastrous decision :(

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Still so little being said about how many of these people are travelling for work because fewer businesses are shutting down this time. No policing of businesses or workplaces. Employers dont get any warnings in the briefings. It's all aimed at individuals.

There's still some businesses trading, that should be closed, Sussex police issued fines to a gym and a pub in Eastbourne a few days ago. :facepalm:
 
Work. For businesses without a storefront, closing is entirely optional. I believe this and not individual non-compliance was the main reason locldown 1.0 took so long to have any effect, and why infections took a long time to fall.

It's not even on the agenda, closing things like non-essential building sites. Must feel like a right kick in the teeth if your pub or shop has had to close 3 times now and property developers, who in many cases are helping put pubs and shops out of business by driving up rents, haven't even blinked.
They didn't close in lockdown 1 either did they?
 
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