Corbyn compares Israel to Isis...

[Wilf]

Name 5 bad things we can blame on Corbyn:

1. Anti-Semitism - we're already on it.
2. Untidy front garden - Titchmarsh has picked that one up, thanks Alan
3. Mankinis - can you take that one on Hilary?
4. Hard skin on feet - didn't you go to the chiropodists recently Angela? You can bring some real pain along on that one.
5. Dog farts - that's one for you Tom.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Let me remove all doubts about all that has been said. You have it right. He accused the MP of working with The Telegraph, against Corbyn.

That's it.

Interestingly that same part of the video appears in a Telegraph article. It seems that Ruth Smeeth was in contact with the Telegraph.

 

[J Ed]

This whole thing reminds me of a particularly weird compensation scam in Sheffield a few years back.

Bus crash-for-cash gang staged fake accident with 26 friends on board 'writhing in agony'

For “realism”, a passenger ran down the aisle, head-butted the windscreen and fell over.
Others were writhing around and screaming when six ambulances arrived.

Seven genuine passengers were left baffled at the reaction to the minor bump.

 

[agricola]

Interestingly that same part of the video appears in a Telegraph article. It seems that Ruth Smeeth was in contact with the Telegraph.

She was actually sat next to the Telegraph journalist in question (edit) or at least appears to be in the video.

 

[butchersapron]

The chakrabati report is grabbable here. It appears to say the labour party does not have, foster or support anti-semitism but structures and processes to deal with individual examples of such should be beefed up and racist langauage outlawed. It seems to be a very informal document. The pretty much clean bill of health was never going to be allowed to be the next story relating to this.

 

[two sheds]

shouldn't the thread title be "Corbyn doesn't compare Israel to ISIS"? It's misleading to anybody who doesn't click the link.

 

[Artaxerxes]

He didn't shout anything. He said that the MP was working with the Telegraph to undermine Corbyn.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Can you let me know his exact words? I'm at work, can't listen to the video.

I feel that noones actually going to write these down in the mainstream news so...

No shouting, the guy was just talking from the floor. I transcribed the audio from the video:

[at this point someone very near the microphone says “how dare you” so somewhere in these words must be the offense]

Is that it? Really? Thats mental.

 

[DotCommunist]

Name 10 bad things we can blame on Corbyn:

1. Anti-Semitism - we're already on it.
2. Untidy front garden - Titchmarsh has picked that one up, thanks Alan
3. Mankinis - can you take that one on Hilary?
4. Hard skin on feet - didn't you go to the chiropodists recently Angela? You can bring some real pain along on that one.
5. Dog farts - that's one for you Tom.

beat at the footrball by iceland, a country with no league. Got to be Corbyns fault. He didn't bow deeply enough at the cenotaph, thus offending st george who withdrew his blessing. Thus we lost.

 

[butchersapron]

beat at the footrball by iceland, a country with no league. Got to be Corbyns fault. He didn't bow deeply enough at the cenotaph, thus offending st george who withdrew his blessing. Thus we lost.

Summary - Úrvalsdeild - Iceland - Results, fixtures, tables and news - Soccerway

 

[Idris2002]

beat at the footrball by iceland, a country with no league. Got to be Corbyns fault. He didn't bow deeply enough at the cenotaph, thus offending st george who withdrew his blessing. Thus we lost.

Worthy of the great Barney Farmer himself.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

She was actually sat next to the Telegraph journalist in question (edit) or at least appears to be in the video.

Ah thanks for that information. I didn't know it and have no idea who the journalist is so didn't recognise him.

 

[Wilf]

beat at the footrball by iceland, a country with no league. Got to be Corbyns fault. He didn't bow deeply enough at the cenotaph, thus offending st george who withdrew his blessing. Thus we lost.

"Did Michael Foot's donkey jacket sit heavily on Raheem Sterling?"

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Is that it? Really? Thats mental.

Yep that's it!

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I can't recall the link but the rest of Corbyn's speech is reported in full and one of the newspapers or a website and the bit you see in the videos is very short by comparison. The speech as a whole is definitely not remotely anti-semitic or anti-muslim and is very calm and businesslike.

 

[Wilf]

Beginning to feel sorry for the journos running the live coverage thingies. "He said what? Fuck off I'm not posting that up!". "Really?". Really?"

 

[Patteran]

The line about not holding individuals responsible for actions of state is almost word-for-word from European Forum on Anti Semitism guidelines - literally textbook correct approach.

• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

 

[J Ed]

Corbyn has to win after all this, it's just so morally repugnant.

 

[agricola]

Corbyn has to win after all this, it's just so morally repugnant.

All he has to do is stay calm until Wednesday, then give the speech of his life.

Nothing must be held back, he will have a national, probably global audience and - if Chilcott is in any way honest - he will be able to get rid of that lot in an afternoon; that faction will be as toxic as it is possible to be.

 

[Idris2002]

Yes. "Abused". Yes.

 

[xslavearcx]

Im starting to think that if it is true what skinner and others are saying that corbyn has been up for denouncing blair/asking for him to be tried/apologising for labours role in the iraq war, then maybe the whole antisemitism thing is an attempt to make corbyn seem like a loony lefty in bed with antisemites and thus undermines anything he could say post chilcott.

 

[xslavearcx]

can someone transcribe the actual words this dude said.. cant make it out tbh

 

[DotCommunist]

All he has to do is stay calm until Wednesday, then give the speech of his life.

Nothing must be held back, he will have a national, probably global audience and - if Chilcott is in any way honest - he will be able to get rid of that lot in an afternoon; that faction will be as toxic as it is possible to be.

they've longrassed it so many times that report must have some good (and by which I mean hugely damaging for blairites) shit in it. The way its being treated like an unstable hand grenade suggests its got some juice

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Sorry to re-post this from the other thread but I want to see it commented upon:

Follow this link: Black Labour members back Jeremy Corbyn's leadership | The Latest - Citizen Journalism for All
It shows who Marc Wadsworth is and reports usefully on this story. Note also the words "fleet street concocted firestorm"

 

[oneflewover]

Full transcript of the Corbyn speech,
Jeremy Corbyn speech at the launch of the Chakrabarti report

Our Jewish friends are no more responsible for the actions of Israel or the Netanyahu Government than our Muslim friends are for those of various self-styled Islamic states or organisations. Nor should Muslims be regarded as sexist, antisemitic or otherwise suspect, as has become an ugly Islamophobic norm. We judge people on their individual values and actions, not en masse.

 

[rutabowa]

can someone transcribe the actual words this dude said.. cant make it out tbh

I did in post 57

 

[Idris2002]

It's hard to imagine how else they can escalate the current hysteria. I don't think I've ever hated anything or anyone in my life as much as these 'journalists' hate Corbyn.

If it goes on like this, one or more of them is going to slip up and expose himself/herself to a libel suit. . .

 

[mk12]

Full transcript of the Corbyn speech,
Jeremy Corbyn speech at the launch of the Chakrabarti report

Apparently that's the pre-released transcript, which, it is claimed, Corbyn deviated from during the meeting (he supposedly did say 'Islamic state').

 

[xslavearcx]

I did in post 57

ahh cheers for that

 

[JimW]

Apparently that's the pre-released transcript, which, it is claimed, Corbyn deviated from during the meeting (he supposedly did say 'Islamic state').

Video clip I saw it did sound like "various Islamic states and organisations". Of course he could have left islamaphobia out of it altogether for this specific report about ant-Semitism but then I'm sure they'd have found something else.

 

[butchersapron]

Apparently that's the pre-released transcript, which, it is claimed, Corbyn deviated from during the meeting (he supposedly did say 'Islamic state').

No he didn't. Read the thread. And i can see no deviation from the offered transcript at all. I have seen people who supposedly had this pre-release (who has backed this idea up up btw?) deviating from it to such an an extent that they are openly lying.