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Schoolboy stabbing according to locals
Breaking news: Stabbing outside Southwyck House by Coldharbour Lane, Brixton, Tues 10th Sept 2019
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The Alex Salmond Show on RT (Russia Today as was) was a feature on Brixton Soup Kitchen The Brixton soup kitchen
organicpanda
cat herder extraodinaire
anybody else lost their water in the area?
eta. discovered a plumber had turned our water off while looking at someone else's place
eta. discovered a plumber had turned our water off while looking at someone else's place
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Temperance News
The former "London Hotel" which is not a hotel - near to Brewdog now styles itself "Billiard Lodge". This sounds a bit of Jerry Knight-ism, however as far as I know Billiard Lodge does not - so far - belong to Lexadon.
This comes to mind, as I was visiting Premier Inn in Wandsworth Road this afternoon. I think I might have been to an adjacent site on a planning site visit back around 1995, at which time this building was pretty derelict.
I got someone to shoot a snap, because this seems an example of a corporate approach to restoration of a Temperance Billiard Hall where money was no object (within reason). The tiling outside (which can't be seen in the picture really) is very fine. Not sure if original or new - but it looks good.
The bit where they have gone off at a tangent is the "hospitality pod" piggybacked onto the building. From some angles it in unobtrusive, from others its like a carbuncle. The same pod-type roof extension as Premier Inn used on top of the Woolworths building in Coldharbour Lane.
I think this Wandsworth Road site is in Lambeth. Odd that Lambeth Planning officers never referenced this apparently successful conversion when considering what happened to London Hotel/Billiard Lodge - after irregularities which caused the Council to take the London Hotel owners to a Planning Inspectors hearing.
This topic had a small free-stand thread, and some Buzz posts. Here is the Wandsworth Road Billiard Hall, complete with Premier Inn weather vane. Also a historical shot of what is now Billiard Lodge from Brixton Buzz - probably late 1960s/early 1970s judging by the solo car on the left.
The former "London Hotel" which is not a hotel - near to Brewdog now styles itself "Billiard Lodge". This sounds a bit of Jerry Knight-ism, however as far as I know Billiard Lodge does not - so far - belong to Lexadon.
This comes to mind, as I was visiting Premier Inn in Wandsworth Road this afternoon. I think I might have been to an adjacent site on a planning site visit back around 1995, at which time this building was pretty derelict.
I got someone to shoot a snap, because this seems an example of a corporate approach to restoration of a Temperance Billiard Hall where money was no object (within reason). The tiling outside (which can't be seen in the picture really) is very fine. Not sure if original or new - but it looks good.
The bit where they have gone off at a tangent is the "hospitality pod" piggybacked onto the building. From some angles it in unobtrusive, from others its like a carbuncle. The same pod-type roof extension as Premier Inn used on top of the Woolworths building in Coldharbour Lane.
I think this Wandsworth Road site is in Lambeth. Odd that Lambeth Planning officers never referenced this apparently successful conversion when considering what happened to London Hotel/Billiard Lodge - after irregularities which caused the Council to take the London Hotel owners to a Planning Inspectors hearing.
This topic had a small free-stand thread, and some Buzz posts. Here is the Wandsworth Road Billiard Hall, complete with Premier Inn weather vane. Also a historical shot of what is now Billiard Lodge from Brixton Buzz - probably late 1960s/early 1970s judging by the solo car on the left.
happyshopper
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Continental Foods was great. Nour before we had Nour. Who knew there were so many types of chilli sauce?
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
The disappearing disco
I picked this poster up on 28th September, wondering how long it would last. I hadn't heard anything about scheduled October' rave, and if you check the particulars on Eventbrite it looks like the November rave has been pulled.
Pity really, I liked Pedro's giant tropical fish when Medussa was all the rage (except with the Domino club of course - who appeared keen to stitch Pedro up to the police). BTW the fuzz made Pedro have an arch (which looked a bit hand-carpented in Loughborough Junction).
Saw no sign of an arch for the Christian rave - or indeed for the Domino Club.
I picked this poster up on 28th September, wondering how long it would last. I hadn't heard anything about scheduled October' rave, and if you check the particulars on Eventbrite it looks like the November rave has been pulled.
Pity really, I liked Pedro's giant tropical fish when Medussa was all the rage (except with the Domino club of course - who appeared keen to stitch Pedro up to the police). BTW the fuzz made Pedro have an arch (which looked a bit hand-carpented in Loughborough Junction).
Saw no sign of an arch for the Christian rave - or indeed for the Domino Club.
editor
hiraethified
So the cop shop has quietly closed down and the London Hotel is now the (guffaw) 'Billiard Lodge, rooms and studios.'
Very trendy, apparently.
London Hotel - Private Accommodation in the London Area
Very trendy, apparently.
London Hotel - Private Accommodation in the London Area
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
There's people in. Do you think they employ property guardians like Lambeth Council?
Mr Bim of Bar
Well-Known Member
There is Indeed a healthy ethnic representation here (but only in the social housing), the remaining apartments are probably 90% owned or occupied by white middle class people in their 30s. We did have a woman concierge here for a while but she wasn’t strong enough to take out the 30 full up bins and then put then back in the bin store. We actually had rubbish piling up and had to bring in a male concierge for a day to do the bins.
editor
hiraethified
It's not social housing. There is no social housing there. Those sleazy cunts Barratts successfully whined to Lambeth to have the paltry 13 flats in that monster development that were promised as social housing to be changed to 'affordable' homes.
Not sure how you can claim a 'healthy ethnic representation when you're referring to a tiny percentage of the demographic in that development either.
Fight for social housing in Brixton: Town Hall, March 12th – update – council caves in -
On Tuesday, Lambeth councillors are meeting to make an important decision about the provision of social housing in the Barratt Homes 'Brixton Square' mega-development on Coldharbour Lane, Brixton SW9. After Barratt Homes tried to wriggle out of their social housing obligations last year, Brixton...
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Mr Bim of Bar
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I beg to differ THERE ARE SOCIAL HOUSING APARTMENTS. I am friends with two of the families that are in social housing .It's not social housing. There is no social housing there. Those sleazy cunts Barratts successfully whined to Lambeth to have the paltry 13 flats in that monster development that were promised as social housing to be changed to 'affordable' homes.
Not sure how you can claim a 'healthy ethnic representation when you're referring to a tiny percentage of the demographic in that development either.
Fight for social housing in Brixton: Town Hall, March 12th – update – council caves in -
On Tuesday, Lambeth councillors are meeting to make an important decision about the provision of social housing in the Barratt Homes 'Brixton Square' mega-development on Coldharbour Lane, Brixton SW9. After Barratt Homes tried to wriggle out of their social housing obligations last year, Brixton...
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hiraethified
So when you were boasting of a "'healthy ethnic representation," you were actually talking about THREE flats? My oh my.
The flats were categorically changed from social to 'affordable' though. It was very, very well documented at the time: Say hello to Barratt Homes' 'Brixton Square' on Coldharbour Lane (old Cooltan site)
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
The Council policy for social / affordable housing on large developments like Brixton Square is for 40% affordable. This is for developments with no grant funding.
Going back in time it was the first time I came across the "financial viability" argument.
Barretts pleaded poverty and got the affordable element changed.
This kind of thing continues. Same has happened with the Hero of Switzerland site in LJ.
This makes a mockery of local democracy. I can object , turn up to have my say at planning committee and the system is set up to give the property developers what they want.
I have taken part in consultations on Brixton SPD , Brixton Masterplan and all I see is developer scum enriching themselves. What is the point of constructive engagement with the system of so callled local democracy?
Going back in time it was the first time I came across the "financial viability" argument.
Barretts pleaded poverty and got the affordable element changed.
This kind of thing continues. Same has happened with the Hero of Switzerland site in LJ.
This makes a mockery of local democracy. I can object , turn up to have my say at planning committee and the system is set up to give the property developers what they want.
I have taken part in consultations on Brixton SPD , Brixton Masterplan and all I see is developer scum enriching themselves. What is the point of constructive engagement with the system of so callled local democracy?
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
I remember (long time ago now) when they built the (then new) flats at the bottom of Tulse Hill, the development was originally for something like 25 flats. There was a policy that any development with more than (again something like) 14 flats had to have a 1/3 affordable. So rather than honour this, it became 2 separate developments to sidestep the "problem". The numbers I quote are probably wrong but that was the general idea.
editor
hiraethified
With the soon-to-open Ovalhouse theatre also boasting a late bar, I'd suggest that Coldharbour Lane is reaching Magaluf-levels of licensed premises along the stretch from Somerleyton Road to Brixton Road.
Here's the ones I can think of (starting from Somerleyton and heading east):
Here's the ones I can think of (starting from Somerleyton and heading east):
- The Laundry
- Ovalhouse (coming soon)
- Brixton Village (multiple licensed outlets)
- Dogstar
- Chip Shop
- Liquor Supply offie
- Friends of Mine (where Instant Melodies was)
- 384 Cocktail Bar (cocktails)
- Franzina restaurant
- Market Row (multiple licensed outlets)
- Brewdog
- Three Little Birds (cocktails)
- 414 (when that posh twats takes it over)
- Prince Albert
- Rum Kitchen (cocktails)
- Nanban (cocktails)
- Market House
- Satay Bar (cocktails)
- Prince of Wales
- Ritzy
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
News on 316 Coldharbour Lane. Connoisseurs of dilapidated houses will have noticed this house, almost opposite the Domino Club, which all of a sudden sprouted scaffolding and multiple "For Sale" signs when Lambeth Council threatened to take them to court for dilapidation.
Suddenly the scaffolding and signs have come down, and work is going on inside the house - which is still very much a wreck. I did a Land Registry search to check change of ownership and got a very odd result.
Title Number : 351684
Address of Property : 316 Coldharbour Lane, London (SW9 8SE)
Price Stated : £15,000
Registered Owner(s) : BARBARA ELIZABETH CALLAGHAN of 14 Acredykes, Bempton,
Bridlington YO15 1LY and of 316 Coldharbour Lane, London SW9 8SE.
Lender(s) : None
"This is a copy of the register of the title number set out immediately below, showing
the entries in the register on 5 JUN 2020 at 15:47:24. This copy does not take account
of any application made after that time even if still pending in HM Land Registry when
this copy was issued."
Title absolute
1 (13.11.2017) PROPRIETOR: BARBARA ELIZABETH CALLAGHAN of 14 Acredykes,
Bempton, Bridlington YO15 1LY and of 316 Coldharbour Lane, London SW9 8SE.
2 (13.11.2017) The value stated as at 13 November 2017 was £15,000.
The person who "looked after" the place over the last 10 years or so told me recently he had sold it for £1 million - which is clearly bollocks. I'm wondering if it is some kind of probate transaction where ownership has been transferred at a notional 1980 value. Clearly Ms Callaghan is hedging her bets - if she is claiming to be resident and the property is done up she can clean up with no tax on the uplift.
One last look at the property under the ancien regime.
Suddenly the scaffolding and signs have come down, and work is going on inside the house - which is still very much a wreck. I did a Land Registry search to check change of ownership and got a very odd result.
Title Number : 351684
Address of Property : 316 Coldharbour Lane, London (SW9 8SE)
Price Stated : £15,000
Registered Owner(s) : BARBARA ELIZABETH CALLAGHAN of 14 Acredykes, Bempton,
Bridlington YO15 1LY and of 316 Coldharbour Lane, London SW9 8SE.
Lender(s) : None
"This is a copy of the register of the title number set out immediately below, showing
the entries in the register on 5 JUN 2020 at 15:47:24. This copy does not take account
of any application made after that time even if still pending in HM Land Registry when
this copy was issued."
Title absolute
1 (13.11.2017) PROPRIETOR: BARBARA ELIZABETH CALLAGHAN of 14 Acredykes,
Bempton, Bridlington YO15 1LY and of 316 Coldharbour Lane, London SW9 8SE.
2 (13.11.2017) The value stated as at 13 November 2017 was £15,000.
The person who "looked after" the place over the last 10 years or so told me recently he had sold it for £1 million - which is clearly bollocks. I'm wondering if it is some kind of probate transaction where ownership has been transferred at a notional 1980 value. Clearly Ms Callaghan is hedging her bets - if she is claiming to be resident and the property is done up she can clean up with no tax on the uplift.
One last look at the property under the ancien regime.
editor
hiraethified
It's been semi/totally derelict for at least 20 years, probably longer. I'm surprised if it's still structurally sound to be honest.News on 316 Coldharbour Lane. Connoisseurs of dilapidated houses will have noticed this house, almost opposite the Domino Club, which all of a sudden sprouted scaffolding and multiple "For Sale" signs when Lambeth Council threatened to take them to court for dilapidation.
Suddenly the scaffolding and signs have come down, and work is going on inside the house - which is still very much a wreck. I did a Land Registry search to check change of ownership and got a very odd result.
Title Number : 351684
Address of Property : 316 Coldharbour Lane, London (SW9 8SE)
Price Stated : £15,000
Registered Owner(s) : BARBARA ELIZABETH CALLAGHAN of 14 Acredykes, Bempton,
Bridlington YO15 1LY and of 316 Coldharbour Lane, London SW9 8SE.
Lender(s) : None
"This is a copy of the register of the title number set out immediately below, showing
the entries in the register on 5 JUN 2020 at 15:47:24. This copy does not take account
of any application made after that time even if still pending in HM Land Registry when
this copy was issued."
Title absolute
1 (13.11.2017) PROPRIETOR: BARBARA ELIZABETH CALLAGHAN of 14 Acredykes,
Bempton, Bridlington YO15 1LY and of 316 Coldharbour Lane, London SW9 8SE.
2 (13.11.2017) The value stated as at 13 November 2017 was £15,000.
The person who "looked after" the place over the last 10 years or so told me recently he had sold it for £1 million - which is clearly bollocks. I'm wondering if it is some kind of probate transaction where ownership has been transferred at a notional 1980 value. Clearly Ms Callaghan is hedging her bets - if she is claiming to be resident and the property is done up she can clean up with no tax on the uplift.
One last look at the property under the ancien regime.
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
The roof will need complete replacement presumably - including the two top windows.
Can't see any planning application in for dividing into flats. Maybe they aren't at that stage yet. The place is still full of rubbish.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
As you say, that's a bit odd. Probate value is market value - shouldn't be any lower.
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Maybe that land registry transaction is just for the freehold and there are also leasehold flats that have changed hands at the same time.
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
The example you are quoting (Flat B 298 Coldhabour Lane) isn't comparable in terms of the property being a wreck.As you say, that's a bit odd. Probate value is market value - shouldn't be any lower.
Puts a (grotty) 1 bed flat in a similar property at £500k (!WTF? that's insane). But that would mean a complete property in decent condition would be well over £1m and wouldn't cost anything like that to rebuild. I'd say as a derelict house that should still be worth 500k plus?House Prices in SW9 8SE
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Maybe that land registry transaction is just for the freehold and there are also leasehold flats that have changed hands at the same time.
And still an unconverted house.
If you had access the historical info for 296 would be a better comparator - though not easy to get the information.
I'll show you 296 vs 316, then discuss the history.
296 is next to your example - 298 - but 296 was derelict and also an intestate case.
Lambeth had for years been paying for scaffolding and corrugated iron to keep 296 up. There was even a tree growing in the middle of the house. It was said that there had been a (non fatal) fire and the vulnerable owner had been taken into care for his own protection - leaving the deeds to the property in a building society, unencumbered with a mortgage.
What happened in the end was Lambeth put a charge on the property for £18,000 to pay for the emergency scaffolding and the Crown Solicitor in due course passed ownership to Lambeth, who then sold the derelict house to a builder, who rendered it as you see on the left - in two flats.
I don't know how much Lambeth sold it to the builder for - and this is not possible to find out from Land Resgistry online. If you go to the Land Registry website you can get details of the most recent transaction, and price, for £3.00 or £6.00 if you need the plan as well. I believe there may be a way of getting historical information - but this seems to involve sending in a form, and maybe paying extra.
The picture of 316 Coldharbour on the right was posted by editor in 2013, before "Johnny" put his scaffolding up. I've been through my archives, and just to show you what I'm on about, here is a cropped 1986 black and white photo of the terrace, showing how bad 296 was before it got sorted out, and 298, which was in fair condition. Actually you can see 296 was in a worse condition than 316.
I should just add that the whole terrace was condemned by the council back in the 1960s, and the closure order on the basements was not lifted till the mid 1970s. Obviously a great incentive to 1960s owners to keep everything in good order- prior to anticipated demolition for a motorway.
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thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
I thought the discussion was about the value of the "property" and that the transfer value in Land Registry looks fraudulently low. The value for an empty plot of land with planning permission is basically the value of the finished house, less the cost of building it and some profit for the developer. If it's got an existing house on it that needs to be demolished that just adds to the cost of building in the calculation.
Whatever state the house is in, that site is worth a lot lot more than £15k
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I agree. I was trying, incompletely, to say that 296 Coldharbour Lane, in the same terrace is another example of a wreck of a house being bought for improvement/conversion/redevelopment.
And also that since computerisation/outsourcing at the Land Registry they no longer give price paid information for historical transactions - just the most recent one. Unless you do a special order, apparently.
I think 296 Coldharbour was sold by Lambeth to its developer for around £80,000 - in 1999.
Judging by that the stated price of £15,000 for 316 Coldhabour Lane in 2017 seems totally wrong.
By the way the terrace is in the Loughborough Park conservation area, so a builder seeking to demolish and renew in modern style would not have been allowed to do that - up till now.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
But badly.
Mind you, have you seen the new Victorian style houses on ... Mandrell? I think. The quality of the frontages is amazing.
