Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

[Pickman's model]

auld jn a one-time labour candidate and former bigwig in the union of jewish students. but he seems to have been something of a fraudster too

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Independents Group: Announce belboid

 

[belboid]

Independents Group: Announce belboid

?? did they announce me?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Not sure what they're hoping to achieve, this kind of ideological purification is exactly what the Corbyn supporters want. It's not going to put any pressure on him inside the party, outside though it looks bad.

 

[agricola]

And then there was 6

by the end of the week it will be:

 

[skyscraper101]

Is 'The Independent Group' an actual party or are they all just independent MPs under a banner. I'm confused.

We're all expecting them to loose their seats at the next GE anyway, right?

 

[Dogsauce]

The "future of British politics".

Politics of the past, PFI debt, bombs and welfare ‘reform’. Corbyn should be saying “it’s a shame they couldn’t find a place for themselves in a modern, democratic, progressive Labour Party.” Or something like that.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Is 'The Independent Group' an actual party or are they all just independent MPs under a banner. I'm confused.

We're all expecting them to loose their seats at the next GE anyway, right?

Not a party as partys need to declare where they get their money from. At some point they may declare themselves a party to get some public cash.

 

[agricola]

Is 'The Independent Group' an actual party or are they all just independent MPs under a banner. I'm confused.

We're all expecting them to loose their seats at the next GE anyway, right?

They have a website, a corporate identity, a twitter account, they are soliciting donations and they brand themselves as being members of a group - but they say it is not a party as far as Electoral law is concerned.

So basically if you donate then you are giving Gemini A Ltd. some money, which you can do with no fear of it being declared (unless the EC take a dim view of this, which really they should).

 

[cupid_stunt]

Is 'The Independent Group' an actual party or are they all just independent MPs under a banner. I'm confused.

We're all expecting them to loose their seats at the next GE anyway, right?

They are just independent MPs for now.

Same as when the Gang of Four resigned from the party, it was a couple of months later before the SDP was formed.

 

[brogdale]

They have a website, a corporate identity, a twitter account, they are soliciting donations and they brand themselves as being members of a group - but they say it is not a party as far as Electoral law is concerned.

So basically if you donate then you are giving Gemini A Ltd. some money, which you can do with no fear of it being declared (unless the EC take a dim view of this, which really they should).

If the tory election expenses fraud case(s) showed us anything it was the toothlessness of the EC. I'm sure Chucky & co. have taken expensive legal advice that they're sailing just the right side of the law.

 

[MrSki]

 

[Serge Forward]

Party Sevens were shit as well.

 

[skyscraper101]

Where’s the ring pull ?

 

[SpookyFrank]

If the tory election expenses fraud case(s) showed us anything it was the toothlessness of the EC.

That and the zero things done about the now pretty indisputable fact the referendum result was bought with dirty money.

 

[Serge Forward]

You had to spike them on two sides.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Where’s the ring pull ?

You use one of them things like you used to have for opening condensed milk. You put a big hole in one side and a little hole in the other side to let the air in.

 

[skyscraper101]

Load of bollocks. Who can be arsed with that.

 

[binka]

So when do we get all the juicy details about whatever skeletons in umunna's cloeset that led to him mysteriously dropping out of the labour leadership contest?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Do they even still do condensed milk? Or no, it was evaporated milk we used to have. Used to have it on cherry pie filling from a can, and I bet they don't make that any more either

 

[SpookyFrank]

So when do we get all the juicy details about whatever skeletons in umunna's cloeset that led to him mysteriously dropping out of the labour leadership contest?

Perhaps the person who knows about them supports this new venture. Perhaps a price of silence has been negotiated and that price is sabotaging Corbyn, albeit in a pretty shit sort of way.

 

[danny la rouge]

Do they even still do condensed milk? Or no, it was evaporated milk we used to have. Used to have it on cherry pie filling from a can, and I bet they don't make that any more either

Evap? Of course they do. Supermarkets do own brand versions too.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Evap? Of course they do. Supermarkets do own brand versions too.

My mum just called it 'vap'.

 

[tim]

So when do we get all the juicy details about whatever skeletons in umunna's cloeset that led to him mysteriously dropping out of the labour leadership contest?

Sir Helenus Milmo!

 

[Smokeandsteam]

?? did they announce me?

Not yet.

 

[SpackleFrog]

So when do we get all the juicy details about whatever skeletons in umunna's cloeset that led to him mysteriously dropping out of the labour leadership contest?

I think he just realised he wasn't going to win to be honest.

 

[SpackleFrog]

This is pretty damning.

30 MPs Discussed Quitting Labour, But The Chaos Of The New Independent Group Turned Them Off

 

[redsquirrel]

This is pretty damning.

30 MPs Discussed Quitting Labour, But The Chaos Of The New Independent Group Turned Them Off

I rather like this quote

A third source who has attended presentations by both factions said: “They are both a shitshow but Powell’s party is even more of a mess”.

 

[butchersapron]

"ex-Labour MPs who left the party amid sexual harassment allegations should be allowed to join them."

Help me out here please folks.

 

[Plumdaff]

Oh please let them try to form a party based around Rachel Riley and JK Rowling. If you tried to come up with something more dreadful you would fail.