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Celebrity Big Brother 2007

kyser_soze said:
63 - you need 4001 posts to make 100 pages...
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How instructive. Must be the way I'm viewing it. In which case I stand corrected - I have a hundred pages. You don't.


The way this one's going, you'll prolly have a hundred pages before too long...
 
rocketman said:
In the same manner, surely, as the earlier chicken-cooking lessons? They started that one, Oxo-gate was simply the inevitable reaction. I see no wrong there.
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Maybe. The animosity is some way down the road now, so most things can be seen as a reaction to something that happened before. But I still feel that Shilpa has come across as particularly condescending from the beginning, also with Jackiey - witness early on the brevity of her patience when attempting to organise a task and others attempted to disagree with her. That was before any tangible group bullying, which again I'm not defending, as that sucks profoundly.
 
Pah, all you less that 40 posts per page people...:p

63 or 100 pages of shite is what it is...

But I still feel that Shilpa has come across as particularly condescending from the beginning, also with Jackiey
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A chimpanzee could be made to look condescending next to Jackiey...
 
And the chimp would be bang on, IMO.

What amazes me is that anyone would take the actions of these pointless minted fuckwits as being in any way representative of anything other than themselves.
 
Fruitloop said:
And the chimp would be bang on, IMO.

What amazes me is that anyone would take the actions of these pointless minted fuckwits as being in any way representative of anything other than themselves.
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Word. But hey, falling ratings must be saved, international relations notwithstanding. :rolleyes: :D
 
Structaural said:
Interesting stuff Lou.
I haven't seen last nights yet so can't comment on that.

Did you see Jade's drawing on Big Brain? She draws like a 5 year old: no spacial awareness and an inability to draw three dimensional objects or understand perspective. That often points to frontal lobe cognitive limitations. I'm not going to say anymore than that, but she probably needs a bit more compassion than derision if that's the case...
(see paragraph 34 onwards: http://www.humboldt.edu/~morgan/fro3_s05.htm)
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I know this is a reality TV show we're talking about here, and I know the person you're aiming at is Jade Goody who will certainly never read your post, but all the same that is a remarkably snide, cowardly and prejudicial little snippet.

How can you take it upon yourself to insinuate a diagnosis of frontal lobe damage (brain damage with all its associations) after having looked at a picture drawn by someone on a heavily edited reality TV show?

It's utterly ludicrous and a disturbing example of prejudice being constructed out of and supported by crude technocratic rubbish.
 
acid priest said:
witness early on the brevity of her patience when attempting to organise a task and others attempted to disagree with her.
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What's condescending about being a little bit bossy? She's highly intelligent and sometimes likes to get things done, that's all. And once again, where Jackley refused to learn how to say her name, Shipla wandered off to repeat Dirk's name (which she had a problem with initially) again and again until she got things right. Being a little bit bossy isn't the same as being condescending.

I agree the animosity is a long way down the road, but I feel that Shipla was picked on from the moment the Goody's made it to the house. And it gathered steam, mostly (I note) as a result of Danielle.

Here's the script of how it was in the early days (Monday).This is a fantasy script.

It's 11:43, Jade and Jo are sitting in the living room,.

JO: I'm feeling insecure today.
JADE: Are you? Me too?
JO: Oh look, a pigeon..
JADE: Oh yes piggins, you gets them in Lahndon

<<Girls stare at pigeon>>
<<Girls stare some more>>
<<Pigeon stares at themm, shrugs, flies off>>>
<Girls continue staring>>

ENTER DANIELLE
DANIELLE: HI girls
Girls: HI Danielle
DANIELLE: What are you doing
Girls: We were staring at a pigeon.
DANIELLE: Oh really. I was staring at a pigeon in the other room, and that bitch, that bitch Shilpa, she came in and walked across the room and distracted me.
Girls: Bitch,
DANIELLE: I hate her, She's better-looking than me. She should just go back to...
JADE: Yeah. She gets right on my nerves. She looks at me like I'm stupid.

SHOUT FROM UK BB AUDIENCE: "YOU ARE STUPID, JADE, (that's why we love/loved you).

JO: Yeah, right
JO: Thinks: (I'm so unhappy, I'm so worried about my dogs, I wish I had some money, I wonder if anyone can tell I'm feeling insecure. I'll just go along with these guys so no one can tell what I'm thinking.)

<<Danielle continues in same vein, filling space between the women by initiating nasty discussions about Shilpa, in her attempt to bond with the others, and get herself some attention)>>

<<Girls go along with this>>

Shilpa enters the room.
SHILPA: Hi Girls
JADE: (Explodes, now wound up by Danielle's constant bitching): Hi? You saying HI to me? Why? You're lucky to be in this house! WHy are you always cleaning up after yourself? What are you? You want to be in a clean house? You stuck up cow! Do they have clean houses in India...

And it's kind of gone on like that.

As I see it, Danielle as the instigator, and Jade as a patsy (who needs to leave for her own protection), and given Danielle's "She should go back home" comment and subsequent attempt to deny it, it's clear to me that Danielle has appealled to innate racial and cultural differnces to put her gang together, and is now trying to extricate herself, before she has to suffer the impact of the damage done.

EDITED TO ADD: And you also have to question the way she has manipulated the situation to put just enough anger into Jade when they are having a private moment, so that whenever the situation deteriorates, it's always Jade who looks like she's the ring-leader. And Danielle hides behind that.
 
rocketman said:
it seems to me you can't dismiss the actions of the terrible trio as simply a cultural clash on the one hand, and deny Shilpa the right to act according to her upbringing (and culture).
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indeed, I see an actress whenever she's on the screen. she's good at it too, same as she's good at pushing other peoples buttons. Jade said something about not trusting her as far as she could throw her** and i rather agree.



** I paraphrase, she's inarticulate especially when cross and actually scrambled the cliche but that doesn't matter because she conveyed meaning, which is what 'proper' spoken English is about
 
Belushi said:
Considering she is such a huge star (dont foget that for literally billions of people bollywood films are as big if not bigger than Hollywood ones) I think Shilpa is surprisingly down to earth.

I cant imagine someone like Nicole Kidman or Angelina Jolie staying in the house more than five minutes.
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Yeah, exactly. Big-name Bollywood actors get treated like royalty in India, they're expected to behave in certain ways. Under those circumstances I can imagine them becoming quite insulated from reality, so the way Shilpa has adapted is quite impressive. She's made mistakes, but i've got a lot of time for her.
 
newbie said:
indeed, I see an actress whenever she's on the screen. she's good at it too, same as she's good at pushing other peoples buttons. Jade said something about not trusting her as far as she could throw her** and i rather agree.

** I paraphrase, she's inarticulate especially when cross and actually scrambled the cliche but that doesn't matter because she conveyed meaning, which is what 'proper' spoken English is about
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I wouldn't trust any of them, but that doesn't give the right to abuse them.

Who is having problems conveying meaning then? Who isn't speaking 'proper' English?
 
Danielle said:
am not a politician but...

If I was, I'd get more people into work and stop people coming into the country. There's so many people who come into England because they know they can get benefits. People who already live here should get the jobs. But I don't really know much about politics.
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Sun Reader.
 
I wouldn't trust any of them, but that doesn't give the right to abuse them.
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Yes it does - they are celebs, they volountarily put themselves in the public's eye and shout 'Love me love me!! Feed my insecurity with your fickle adulation and capricious whims!!!!'

Anyone who does that is fair game. I have a smidgen of sympathy for papp surrounded slebs sometimes - but then I realise that the proper ones get paid more than the GDP of some African countries for poisoning our culture with their foetid visual and audio offerings, and the ones like Goody and Danielle draw attention to the talent-and-redeeming feature-vacuums they are by actively courting the papps and then crying about it when 200 are parked outside their door.

If you make a Faustian bargain expect to take the consequences...
 
Rutita1 said:
Sun Reader.
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Interesting point.

It shows that these impressionable and not particularly bright women have had their racial button activated by years of pure drivel and lies over immigration pouring out of the xenophobic mainstream press - the very same media that now leads the witch hunt against the women for acting according to the programming that self-same media has put in place.

While the behavious is unnacceptable in itself, it's a good time to remember a previous poster who described the girls as "our monsters", people who reflect and are part of our society.

They personify an ugliness years of blinkered nationalistic foreign policy and attutudes to immigration have created.
 
If I was, I'd get more people into work and stop people coming into the country. There's so many people who come into England because they know they can get benefits. People who already live here should get the jobs. But I don't really know much about politics.
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LOL...and this is the same girl who admits to never having done a days work in her life. :D :rolleyes: :p
 
rocketman said:
Interesting point.

It shows that these impressionable and not particularly bright women have had their racial button activated by years of pure drivel and lies over immigration pouring out of the xenophobic mainstream press - the very same media that now leads the witch hunt against the women for acting according to the programming that self-same media has put in place.

While the behavious is unnacceptable in itself, it's a good time to remember a previous poster who described the girls as "our monsters", people who reflect and are part of our society.

They personify an ugliness years of blinkered nationalistic foreign policy and attutudes to immigration have created.
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that or they don't actually expect anyone to actually beleive the drivel they write and are appaulled that some one would...
 
Brockway said:
I remember Jade in BB and thought at the time what an unpleasant, bullying cunt. So I've been amazed by her popularity since. Good to know that she is showing her true colours again - hopefully someone will kill her when she gets out.
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What an utterly unpleasant thing to say.

Are some people having a laugh on here, or are they actually full of disgusting vitrolic bile?
 
Augie March said:
What an utterly unpleasant thing to say.

Are some people having a laugh on here, or are they actually full of disgusting vitrolic bile?
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for some reaso they do not equaite their own unthinking violence with the unthinking violence they are rallying against... a commone problem..
 
I actually do think there needs to be a 10 minute hate for some people in this country. Just so they can release all their pent-up aggression for the day and not have to inflict it on everyone else.
 
Augie March said:
I actually do think there needs to be a 10 minute hate for some people in this country. Just so they can release all their pent-up aggression for the day and not have to inflict it on everyone else.
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ofcourse, next week we will be back to pete docherty et al:D
 
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