CH1
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Whatever - she's doing her job look - demolition of Patmos Lodge. I knew Caribbean elders in that sheltered accommodation. Now they can fuck off!
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Gramsci
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Probably bit unfair to pick on Eleanor Purser personally. Reading what she said at the meeting and it's this:
This is the script that all senior Council employees have to follow. It's the same one they all say. To be able to learn this script and spout it out at meetings like the one I posted a PPE from Oxford is needed.
It's a intellectually demanding job to be a senior officer in Lambeth.
Point is anyone with a PPE in the arts from Oxford will do. So yes she's just doing her job. If it wasn't her it would be another Oxford graduate. As that is how the system works. The problem in end is the system.
An elite of people really run things in this country. She is just one small example. Interchangeable with others from the same pool. It is this that needs to be got rid of.
This is the script that all senior Council employees have to follow. It's the same one they all say. To be able to learn this script and spout it out at meetings like the one I posted a PPE from Oxford is needed.
It's a intellectually demanding job to be a senior officer in Lambeth.
Point is anyone with a PPE in the arts from Oxford will do. So yes she's just doing her job. If it wasn't her it would be another Oxford graduate. As that is how the system works. The problem in end is the system.
An elite of people really run things in this country. She is just one small example. Interchangeable with others from the same pool. It is this that needs to be got rid of.
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hiraethified
... so long as they're lining the pockets at the same time, of course.The Brixton Project: "There is now an enormous opportunity to innovate, heal and transform, engage people in dialogue and allow narratives to emerge"
CH1
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I would pick on anyone who comes here to iconic Lambeth for 5 minutes wanting to know down old people's homes for redevelopment - even if it is their job.
I also think that spoof degrees are over-represented at Lambeth Council. She may have one - and we also have two Lambeth Councillors who have honorary degrees who habitually are referred to as "Dr" - which is not correct usesage.
With regard to the use of this honorific, the policies of institutions of higher education generally ask that recipients "refrain from adopting the misleading title"[4]
Government by spivs for spivs apparently!
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
A propos honorary degrees
The Sydney Morning Herald said this:-
It would be fair to question the criteria that saw gifted people-puncher Mike Tyson bestowed a doctorate from an Ohio university in 1989. The institution's president told The New York Times that Tyson's achievements demonstrated that "hard work, determination and perseverance can enable one to overcome any obstacles".
The custom of awarding honorary degrees is said to have gained steam in the 1600s when Oxford and Cambridge made a habit of decorating visiting royals.
Personally I quite like the idea of Dr Mike Tyson. He does collect antiquarian books and has an original copy of Machiavelli's "The Prince"
theboris
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Still shut, though apparently reopening this evening. Heard that landlord has been given the flick by Green King (again).
Gramsci
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Philosophy, Politics and Economics | University of Oxford
The course brings together some of the most important approaches to understanding the world around us, developing skills useful for a wide range of careers and activities.
It's traditional elite Uni. PPE is their to educate the next people destined for higher echolons of society.
David Clapson
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Personal Protective Equipment. A highly valued qualification in the era of Covid.
cuppa tee
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Philosophy, Politics and Economics | University of Oxford
The course brings together some of the most important approaches to understanding the world around us, developing skills useful for a wide range of careers and activities.www.ox.ac.uk
It's traditional elite Uni. PPE is their to educate the next people destined for higher echolons of society.
many thanks....that explains a few things, somebody on twitter was saying the other day they went to the same PPE lectures as a very up and coming Tory but decided to drop out and went to work as a stripper instead.
cuppa tee
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...that’s what was confusing me.
CH1
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What's the Tories got to do with it.
You might say the same of Rail strikes - or 9 months waiting lists on the NHS for example.
Gramsci
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Council employees cover a lot of people.
What's being brought up here is the top officers. Who get invited to meetings to discuss regeneration and in this case future of London. These aren't just employees. The jobs they have give them social prestige. They get listened to in way ordinary people don't.
I don't often deal with top officers like the one discussed here. More the middle range ones
I do remember recently coming up against one top officer over planning guidelines for Loughborough junction.
These kind of people really don't like it when the proles turn up to disagree with what they think is best for Lambeth.
Can turn quite unpleasant. Which it did.
One of the problems in Lambeth is that due to the Labour long lasting control of Council senior officers become part of the Labour administration. This is also due to the Cabinet system. As ex Cllr Rachel told me a few senior Cllrs around the leader plus senior pro Labour officers decide policy.
It's a top down system that is largely isolated from Joe public.
I was quoting CH1, but plenty of people slag off Lambeth for implementing cuts or commercial activity ( eg festivals in parks ) forced on them by the tories
I’m wondering why CH1 is being creepy about a council employee who is doing their job.
“Did she actually get a degree from Oxford university?” Etc
CH1
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That's not creepy. Its commenting on an issue to do with qualifications publicly cited.
Including later on our two Labour Lambeth councillors who are called (or call themselves) "Dr" when it is customary NOT to use the title Dr if it is an Honorary degree.
Why can't I query peoples' qualifications? Is Urban now a zone where absence of Progress solidarity results in decapitation?
PS this little jape as reported on Wiki is from one of your founders:
On leaving his position as Chief Secretary to the Treasury following the change of British government in May 2010, Byrne left a note to his successor David Laws saying: "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid there is no money. Kind regards – and good luck!
happyshopper
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Not that it really matters, but, as has already been clearly explained, the decision by an Oxford or Cambridge graduate not to take the active decision to pay for his or her B.A. to be upgraded to an M.A. is to their credit. The reason why it is good form to put the institution (e.g. Cantab) after a paid for M.A. is that it tells people that it’s really just a B.A.
Gramsci
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What's that got to do with your post I quoted.
What I was commenting on was this:
Now you've moved it to CH1 being "creepy"
You moved the conversation to wider issue of those "locals " who "slag" off Lambeth council.
I did point out I wasn't slagging off this particular officer. But as I posted the overall issue is systemic not down to one individual,
As your saying that CH1 is "creepy" due to looking at one individual do you agree with my analysis? Which isn't directed at an individual but is due to how the system works
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I’m not talking about you, and I’m not moving it on - one person was targeting a council employees which if it isn’t creepy is pretty unusual.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
This degree-ism can get you in hot water. Mother Sheila - non-stipendiary at St Matthews Church, Lilford Road (R.I.P. and bless her cotton socks) - let rip at me about 10 years back because I happened to say - by way of explanation as to why I was living in London and not Manchester - that I'd been to Manchester University.
Red rag to a bull. "Of course it had to be "Russell Group" she shot back - or would have done if she'd been on Twitter. I find there are quite a lot of "ordinary people" who find going to a university at all pretentious and politically suspect.
Whilst of course I agree with you that having an Oxbridge MA is really a B.A. (or B.Sc.), you have to allow Gramsci 's point that an Oxbridge PPE is the English equivalent of the French École nationale d'administration where these elite bastards tell everyone else what to do - and get paid huge sums for doing so - after their Mummies and Daddies paid for their Ecole places to start with.
I come back to my point - if the Lambeth Officer in question couldn't afford or didn't want to pay to be an Oxford M.A. they must be unique. Never heard of it before. On the other hand Oxford Poly (sorry Oxford Brookes University) does offer a PPE equivalent. Not only that I have personally come across (at Lambeth Accord "We are 336") a staff member who claimed a Cambridge degree - which was actually from Cambridge Poly - so there!
editor
hiraethified
Err, wasn't Franco there before the Villaaaage rebranded?
Yes. We all need to heal and transform, whatever the fuck that means. How do you heal an unaffordable rent driven up by people like Squire & Partners?
Brixton embraces community in new vision
NLA On Location event hears how community groups are informing and underpinning the regeneration of this ‘iconic’ area.
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Maybe “like” is doing a lot of heavy lifting? It’s not even in Brixton Village is it? Isn’t that just Granville Arcade?
felonius monk
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Brixton Village covers both Granville Arcade and Market Row. Franco Manca opened in 2008 though there has been a pizza place there since the 1980s (Franco originally). Eco bought Franco and I think FM took over the site after that in 2008. Visit — Brixton Village
Oh - depressing.
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