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Certainly eye catching. I didn't know it was part of the art trail, recall observing as a pedestrian it had an effect on the traffic, I thought it was all part of the other traffic calming measures.
There's a campaign to get traditional zebra road crossing markings back on streets. I don't think there's much demand for obscure, trendy patterns that line the pockets of local entrepreneurs/grifters.

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Don't forget the Brixton Project were so far up their own arses they wanted nearly a million quid for a hideous Bowie monument.

Their idea was out of touch with what people actually want that it only managed to raise a pathetic 5% of the asking price

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Some of the crossing had those wonderful loud busy patterns painted on them (what is the name of the designers?) But these weren't repainted when they wore off. Think they were immediately outside the tube, across the end of coldharbour lane to the ritzy and on the junction of altantic & coldharbour. Don't recall if they ever went across the main road to Mc Ds

editor have you got some photos of the painted crossings?

Does any one know if data was gathered about road safety in relation to the crossings then?
I haven’t read it!

 
At McDonalds, the total road width to the first step on Windrush Square is 27.6m.
Currently, 15m of this is for motor vehicles (2 lanes each way) 1.5m central reservation and 11.1m for pedestrians. It's really unbalanced though. They filled in one of the Southbound lanes during lockdown, so the pavements are 3.5m on the West and 8.6 on the East.

If I was transport planning god, I'd divide that 27.6m up as 13m for motor vehicles & buses (2 lanes each way) 4m for bike lanes (2m each way) and 5m pavements each side (plus some separating kerbs) with island bus stops. But really this isn't realistic when the bus stops get so crowded at rush hour.

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What's really wrong with this junction is the colossal expanse of tarmac in the middle, and the multi-lane approaches from many directions. It encourages speeding. If I remember right, when the square was being planned, there was talk of closing off Effra Road by the church. Scuppered by NIMBY residents of Saltoun and Kellet roads. A real shame, as this would have let the bus stops be moved up to the square and relieve the pavements of all that crowding.

There was a bit more to it than NIMBY residents.

It was an example of poor consultation that got peoples backs up and they ended up opposing the closure.

The officer in charge was Jo Negrini then Brixton Town Centre manager. Her way of managing was pushing forward what the Council wanted and not dealing with residents. Regarding them as a nuisance. Did her career in local government no end of good. Exactly the sort officer Labour Cllrs like.

The same high handed I know best manner that got her into deep water in Croydon. Where she had major role in bankrupting the Council. I was not surprised after the way I saw her operate in Lambeth. A self styled expert on regeneration. Still earning well:

 
There's a campaign to get traditional zebra road crossing markings back on streets. I don't think there's much demand for obscure, trendy patterns that line the pockets of local entrepreneurs/grifters.
I think there's a couple of things confused here. This is my understanding.

There's a campaign for zebra markings on side roads to indicate that pedestrians have priority. Rather than have beacons which can be expensive to install, this is seen as a quick measure that makes the road hierarchy more apparent, a bit like the continuous pavements you sometimes see. As I understand it these are not allowed at the moment under DfT rules, but Manchester is really keen and has had a trial of them.

When it comes to the zebras with fancy designs, there is some concern that these are problematic for people with limited vision or who rely on guide dogs. Some of this concern comes from sensible people like Transport for All, but there's a lot of noise from the sort of people who don't like the idea of driving their car over gross pride and trans flag colours. I kinda like them, but I don't like them more than people being able to cross the road.
 
There's a campaign for zebra markings on side roads to indicate that pedestrians have priority. Rather than have beacons which can be expensive to install, this is seen as a quick measure that makes the road hierarchy more apparent, a bit like the continuous pavements you sometimes see. As I understand it these are not allowed at the moment under DfT rules, but Manchester is really keen and has had a trial of them.
there's similar to Manchester outside Surbiton Station - as I posted the other day. Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
 
The Hollamby plan would have seen a ringway, transport interchange and huge tower blocks ( Council housing). The only parts that were built were the Brixton Rec and the Barrier Block.

Both have lasted. The Rec was designed by Finch. Who also designed the Council block by the War Museum.

Post WW2 there were a lot of designs for a new country with decent social amenities and Council housing.

Even my town Plymouth had a plan. Which was largely built.

Architects and planners post war had good career opportunities working in the public sector.

Its easy to poke fun at these designs now but at least they had a vision of making a post war Britain for the many not the few.

Unlike now.
 
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Good grief, advertising copy for BSTN the new sneaker emporium moving into the former NatWest at 395 Brixton Road (that older readers may remember as Candy Fashion) has reached new depths of bullshit.

A community destination

In addition to offering the most sought-after sneakers and a hand-picked lineup of apparel to match, BSTN has always taken pride in continuously building and strengthening the bond with its community. That’s why the upper floor of the 360 sqm store hosts a dedicated community hub, dubbed the B-Hive (named for its collaborative nature as well as the neighbouring Beehive Pl). The multi-purpose event space will regularly host community events ranging from panel talks to workshops and charity events, creating a local destination that goes well beyond a tradition retail space.


Not sure if revealing the barrel vault after twenty years hidden beind a suspended ceiling is sufficient compensation for that.
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Once again a very loud banging noise is coming over from the direction of Coldharbour Lane. It was there last week as well, but seemed to be intermittent and then disappeared. I can hear it in my living room on Rushcroft Road over the sound of my telly! Does anyone know what it is and who's causing it? Surely this can't be licensed? (even by Lambeth's standards!)
 
It was all part of this I believe:

yes.

this book is not bad - don't think i paid anywhere near full price, and must get round to reading it through

some of the ideas that got re-hashed for 'ringway' had been floated before the 1939 war - there was a fairly large scale highway development survey for greater london published in 1937 (published by the ministry of transport, as the then london county council went out as far as today's lambeth / southwark / lewisham / greenwich boroughs, and even less far out in north london)

Its easy to poke fun at these designs now but at least they had a vision of making a post war Britain for the many not the few.

yes, the broad intentions post-1945 and for a good few years after that were largely honourable and for the public good. and broadly part of the post-war consensus - there was some criticism from the tories in the 1950/51 elections that the attlee government hadn't built enough council homes, and councils of all colours showing a pride in their new estates in council guide books of the era.

although i get the impression that there was to some extent at least an element of (metaphorical) willy waving over grand schemes rather than rebuilding at what's sometimes described as 'a human scale', and often not having much regard to existing communities, with a culture of people being 'put' on an estate rather than having a lot of say. and a focus very much on getting cars from A to B rather than letting people get around.

there is a fault in public spending principles, as demolish + rebuild is 'capital spending' and can be on the never-never, but repairs and maintenance are 'revenue spending' and have to go on the rates even if it's a lot more cost effective in the long run.

and in the later years of council housing, many estates / schemes were built down to a price rather than up to a standard, and some were put in remote places with limited access to facilities and transport (that in many cases got promised and not delivered (thamesmead), or went to shit after bus services got privatised.)

some councils were just starting to get it a lot more right when council housing (more or less) stopped - this was one of lewisham council's last estates, built c. 1979/80 - of course many have been bought under 'right to buy' since then.

and then 'society' was declared not to exist, along with a lot of working class jobs disappearing, and spending cuts that reduced housing maintenance, cut resident caretakers and so on.

and successive governments that regard social housing and its tenants as a problem to be got rid of, usually by giving the land away to their property development chums and 'decanting' the tenants to 'somewhere else'.

:(
 
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Good grief, advertising copy for BSTN the new sneaker emporium moving into the former NatWest at 395 Brixton Road (that older readers may remember as Candy Fashion) has reached new depths of bullshit.




Not sure if revealing the barrel vault after twenty years hidden beind a suspended ceiling is sufficient compensation for that.
I had a Mary Whitehouse moment reading some of the language on their website pictures!
I have a fond memory of the Beehive branch of NatWest.
I turned up the day after they had technically withdrawn their 3% cash ISA needing to deposit £20,000 urgently. [this was in the GordonBrown/Alistair Darling bank crash period]
The NatWest salesman didn't seem phased that I was asking for him to bend the rules.
"You asked about this yesterday DIDN'T YOU!" he said and took the cheque.

Those were the days - generally banks seem to think you must be a bit dodgy if you even want an account these days! I never did understand why NatWest wanted a second branch in Brixton. Especially as it shared the same 60-03-36 sort code.
 
yes.

this book is not bad - don't think i paid anywhere near full price, and must get round to reading it through

some of the ideas that got re-hashed for 'ringway' had been floated before the 1939 war - there was a fairly large scale highway development survey for greater london published in 1937 (published by the ministry of transport, as the then london county council went out as far as today's lambeth / southwark / lewisham / greenwich boroughs, and even less far out in north london)



yes, the broad intentions post-1945 and for a good few years after that were largely honourable and for the public good. and broadly part of the post-war consensus - there was some criticism from the tories in the 1950/51 elections that the attlee government hadn't built enough council homes, and councils of all colours showing a pride in their new estates in council guide books of the era.

although i get the impression that there was to some extent at least an element of (metaphorical) willy waving over grand schemes rather than rebuilding at what's sometimes described as 'a human scale', and often not having much regard to existing communities, with a culture of people being 'put' on an estate rather than having a lot of say. and a focus very much on getting cars from A to B rather than

there is a fault in public spending principles, as demolish + rebuild is 'capital spending' and can be on the never-never, but repairs and maintenance are 'revenue spending' and have to go on the rates even if it's a lot more cost effective in the long run.

and in the later years of council housing, many estates / schemes were built down to a price rather than up to a standard, and some were put in remote places with limited access to facilities and transport (that in many cases got promised and not delivered (thamesmead), or went to shit after bus services got privatised.)

some councils were just starting to get it a lot more right when council housing (more or less) stopped - this was one of lewisham council's last estates, built c. 1979/80 - of course many have been bought under 'right to buy' since then.

and then 'society' was declared not to exist, along with a lot of working class jobs disappearing, and spending cuts that reduced housing maintenance, cut resident caretakers and so on.

and successive governments that regard social housing and its tenants as a problem to be got rid of, usually by giving the land away to their property development chums and 'decanting' the tenants to 'somewhere else'.

:(

Thanks. Agree with this.

Ive read Selina Todds book the The People: The Rise and Fall of the Working Class.


Its contains a lot about housing. Says similar to what you are saying. Its a very good social history of this country. Not romanticising it.

A theme that runs through it is that the "people" might not be dyed in the wool socialists but wanted more control of their lives.

A case in point was the servant "problem" from 30s onwards. With development of light industry younger women had more of a choice. Work in a factory or work for the middle classes as a servant. Not surprisingly they choose the factory. "Deference" started to go much to the chagrin of the middle classes. Despite factory work being hard it gave a wage and set hours. A (slight) gain in independence.

I think its underestimated the profound changes this country went through after WW2. Reading a recent history of WW2 in Asia the troops had no intention of going back to what it was like before WW2 when they finally went home.

It is perhaps possible to see something similar now. Despite the sensible grown ups being back in charge.

On housing New Labour under Blair was just as hostile to Council housing as the Tories. Even if their "reforms" ALMOs etc appeared less in ones face.
 
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"The original building on the site was damaged during WW2, and back in 1910 it housed ‘Thomas Potts, Teas and Coffees,’ selling ‘delicious blended coffees and teas to suit all’, ‘bottled ales, stout and mineral waters’ and ‘Gilbey’s Wines and Spirits’. "

 
Ive read Selina Todds book the The People: The Rise and Fall of the Working Class.

Thanks - will have to hunt that out.

I've currently got


on the pile waiting to be read. The author's blog is good, and coincidentally latest couple of posts are about post-war reconstruction of town / city centres

and includes a mention of


(think i'll wait for it to be second hand)
 
The Hollamby plan would have seen a ringway, transport interchange and huge tower blocks ( Council housing). The only parts that were built were the Brixton Rec and the Barrier Block.

Both have lasted. The Rec was designed by Finch. Who also designed the Council block by the War Museum.

Post WW2 there were a lot of designs for a new country with decent social amenities and Council housing.

Even my town Plymouth had a plan. Which was largely built.

Architects and planners post war had good career opportunities working in the public sector.

Its easy to poke fun at these designs now but at least they had a vision of making a post war Britain for the many not the few.

Unlike now.
Yes, lots of things about town planning and architecture at that time had a focus on communal facilities and design for the general social good.

The bit they really got wrong was the transport bit, with public transport deprioritised and so much designed around the private car. It wasn't foreseen how damaging this would be.

I actually think that it's largely this that's to blame for postwar modernist architecture becoming so unpopular in the public mind. That style of architecture so often associated with complete devastation of public realm at ground level, due to the amount of space needed for road infrastructure.

The Rec is an excellent example of public architecture. I'm certainly glad the ringway bit of the plan didn't happen; for whatever reason it sort of turned out the bathwater got thrown out without all of the baby.
 
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