Brixton news, rumours and general chat

[Gramsci]

One of the things about removing one bus service partly on basis there are alternatives is that this reduces the frequency of buses.

I sometimes use buses to get to Brixton and back. I could walk or cycle but don't always feel like it.

Just looked up on TFL journey planner. At moment it's as good as underground service. Several different buse go that way.

With loss of 45 the frequency of buses will go down.

The TFL consultation intro suggests buses at 12 minute intervals is ok. At moment due to several bus routes on my bit of CHL it's good service imo I don't have to wait long for a bus

Read elsewhere (will go and find it) article pointing out these Tory cuts are "managed decline". Instead of going all out Thatcher this way is to gradually undermine the overal service and thus TFL as an institution. Once bits are gone they aren't going to come back.

An increase in having to wait at interchanges with other routes and less frequency of buses is likely to put people off using buses. So if idea is to get people away from car use etc it's self defeating to cut services.

But then that's what the Tories want. Death from a thousand cuts. Gradually undermining it. And Labour Mayor can take the blame

It can be justified as supposedly a political austerity type cuts due to pandemic. IE "sensible grown up" .

 

[Gramsci]

Carnage on the buses (in central London)

Wednesday 1st June 2022 A blog post extra. Route 14 will be axed TfL’s much anticipated six week consultation about its “central London’s bus review” began today. It’s going to ta…

busandtrainuser.com

It was this I was thinking of. Posted by teuchter in the Cull of buses thread

He's first of all saying the consultation docs aren't clear and easy to follow

Apart from what I've posted changing routes on regular basis isn't good practice if one wants to keep customers.

 

[Gramsci]

Also from the Cull the buses thread : Germany has slashed public transport prices for next three months. To help people during this difficult period and encourage people to use public transport.

What's the plan for Germany's 9-euro monthly public transport ticket?

The German government has announced it will temporarily offer monthly public transport tickets for 9 euros in its relief package. Here's what we know so far...

www.iamexpat.de

This kind of loony left Red Ken populist measure won't be happening here. As this country is back to grown up sensible politics.

No here all sensible people will agree that cuts are necessary. If unfortunate.

 

[Gramsci]

It was contained within the press release

TfL seeks views on reshaping the central and inner London bus network​

01 June 2022

While buses remain the most popular form of transport in London, demand on many central and inner London bus routes has reduced. Ridership on some routes has been declining since 2014, and by 2019 passenger levels had fallen by nine per cent as improvements to rail services and walking and cycling infrastructure provided new alternatives, especially in central and inner London

On this.

I do know people who use buses because they are cheaper than rail. Even if it takes longer. Telling people they have alternatives is all very well. But it's not always cheaper.

And I find the argument that cycling and walking infrastructure has improved so cuts to buses are ok a bit off.

I thought the improvement to walking and cycling infrastructure was about reducing car use. Not a way to justify cuts to a public transport system.

Kind of really hope TFL / Khan aren't going to push this line of argument to much.

If anything a bus service should be kept and improved on alongside measures to discourage car use.

 

[Leighsw2]

Ah, wondered why they were setting up sound systems on Coldharbour lane earlier. While I salute their 25th anniversary and their cultural significance in Brixton, looks like my plan for a peaceful bank holiday afternoon watching the test match isn't going to happen!

I wasn't wrong - it was there on Friday as well, except louder and through to 1.00am! Interesting how this was licensed by Lambeth - was there consultation with residents? I don't think that, in 25 years living on Rushcroft Rd, I've seen a two-day street party before. Still, I imagine we won't see another Platinum Jubilee in our lifetimes!

 

[blameless77]

I wasn't wrong - it was there on Friday as well, except louder and through to 1.00am! Interesting how this was licensed by Lambeth - was there consultation with residents? I don't think that, in 25 years living on Rushcroft Rd, I've seen a two-day street party before. Still, I imagine we won't see another Platinum Jubilee in our lifetimes!

Personally I thought it was wonderful - joyful and inclusive.

 

[Leighsw2]

Personally I thought it was wonderful - joyful and inclusive.

They're back - a sound system has been set up on Rushcroft Rd near junction with Coldharbour Lane. And someone's selling food. I suspect this is actually unlicensed. Anyone have any info?

"Joyful and inclusive" - possibly for one day, but by the third day it is getting a bit tiresome!

 

[AverageJoe]

Just deal with it. It's a one off event. You'll never have to be bothered by it again.

Maybe even go over

 

[cuppa tee]

...dunno what I’m listening to here in north Brixton but it’s fkin great....
hard to describe, spaced out dancehall with live female vox, maybe all live
in someone’s. garden....

 

[David Clapson]

The Rushcroft Rd soundsystem has been at it for 3 days straight. Last night it was as loud in my flat as camping out on the runway at Heathrow, and it didn't stop til 1.30

 

[cuppa tee]

...dunno what I’m listening to here in north Brixton but it’s fkin great....
hard to describe, spaced out dancehall with live female vox, maybe all live
in someone’s. garden....

...just had a flypast by the local bat and thir mate, hopefully bass frequencies don’t stress their radar....

 

[David Clapson]

The musicians playing outside the KFC earlier were these two NicK & Six Their cover of Zombie was better than the original. The vocalist has a magical voice.

 

[teuchter]

I stopped by at Rushcroft Road an hour or two ago to see what was happening. Maybe I'd feel differently if I lived next door and/or the music wasn't to my taste (and after 3 days of it), but I found it kind of heartening to see, a bit of an older brixton tradition still alive, and you don't see it as much as you used to.

Just a traditional style soundsystem, totally non aggro crowd, laid back music, complete mix of ages, not surrounded by high vis event stewards or branded as some sort of official event.

If there were sunshine forecast I'd go back and see if was still there tomorrow.

 

[Leighsw2]

Sorry, but we've had this shit for three days solid now and I can't even hear myself think inside my own flat. At the moment the DJ is literally screaming into the mic. I'm fed up of it and I want it to stop!

 

[Leighsw2]

Just deal with it. It's a one off event. You'll never have to be bothered by it again.

Maybe even go over

My concern is that it won't be. They're clearly making money out of this so why wouldn't they continue?

 

[DietCokeGirl]

Sorry, but we've had this shit for three days solid now and I can't even hear myself think inside my own flat. At the moment the DJ is literally screaming into the mic. I'm fed up of it and I want it to stop!

Go and have a beer and a dance and cheer up. Or move back to the home counties if you need peace and quiet all weekend

 

[Leighsw2]

Interesting, have just discovered from a friend that they were actually closed down yesterday by council and police, otherwise they would have gone beyond 1.30am. I wonder what will happen tonight?

 

[AverageJoe]

Pretty sure it's not a big deal.

My neighbour revs up his massive bike every Sunday morning. It's a proper throaty fucker.

We live with it. He's doing his thing. We do our thing.

Just.... Relax

 

[pbsmooth]

About the only thing more annoying than being kept awake by a crazy loud party is being told not to worry about it by people who can't hear it

 

[David Clapson]

Volume has dropped a fair bit. I think they've switched to a smaller soundsystem. Hopefully the big one has melted or packed up.

 

[David Clapson]

The DJ has said 'grand finale' a couple of times.

 

[Leighsw2]

Pretty sure it's not a big deal.

My neighbour revs up his massive bike every Sunday morning. It's a proper throaty fucker.

We live with it. He's doing his thing. We do our thing.

Just.... Relax

Of course. Tell you what mate, give us your address and I'll send them round to perform outside your house for the next six hours. You'll love it!

 

[David Clapson]

They're using a smaller stack now, but there's a van with more speakers than I've ever seen fitted to a vehicle. It's not being used yet, but it has an expectant looking crew.

I've called the council noise team. (020 7926 5000) They say they're 'aware' of the Rushcroft Rd situation and will call me back.

 

[David Clapson]

IT'S RAINING!

 

[TopCat]

They're using a smaller stack now, but there's a van with more speakers than I've ever seen fitted to a vehicle. It's not being used yet, but it has an expectant looking crew.

I've called the council noise team. (020 7926 5000) They say they're 'aware' of the Rushcroft Rd situation and will call me back.

poor.

 

[Gramsci]

Go and have a beer and a dance and cheer up. Or move back to the home counties if you need peace and quiet all weekend

I don't think that's fair.

Rushcroft road was never one of the traditionally noisy bits of central Brixton. When I lived in central Brixton

One day is ok ( like Brixton Splash).

Three days of it comes across as not caring about other people imo. The sound system were placed right next to long term residential bit of Brixton. Not say outside the Rec.

As for living in Home Counties. The same logic could apply the the Council tenants who live next to Pop.

There's a difference between live and let live and having to put up with three days of it. Three days comes across as not going a fuck about anyone else.

I remember Splash. It had its downsides. Every year used to get unauthorized chicken food stall outside. Had fairly unpleasant attitude and left a mess. One year decided to stay put. Smoke etc going into the flats, directly outside the flats. At that point I contacted Council. Still took time to get it removed. Should I have gone back to " home counties"? Or in my case docklands of Plymouth. Had the same with a sound system that decided to set up every Sunday opposite where I lived then. Once or twice is ok. Regularly no. Especially on Sunday.

Living in what has now become full on entertainment area ( it wasn't when I first moved into central Brixton) means one at some point is likely to have the live and let's live pushed to the limit.

These are just two examples btw. This was becoming constant issue as years went on. And central Brixton became more focused on being entertainment centre. Whether "authorized" or not.

Telling residents to go back to Home Counties doesn't help. Nor are some of us originally from middle class area. I did grow in working class area with a lot of pubs. So it was noisy. But then pubs closed at 11. People had a balance.

 

[editor]

Loads of local, long term residents of the Barrier Block got thoroughly pissed of with the all night - sometimes private and ticketed - parties that used to take place on the green space in front of the estate.

It was noted that much of the crowd and the organisers weren't known to locals. Some parties went on till 6am.

I've never complained about noise in my life, but I know several residents who did, and I don't blame them.

It's a residential area not a money making opportunity for people who leave a fucking almighty mess behind.

 

[Leighsw2]

Go and have a beer and a dance and cheer up. Or move back to the home counties if you need peace and quiet all weekend

I actually come from northern England and I've lived in Brixton for 30 years (25 in Rushcroft Road), so you can totally fuck off with that attitude.

 

[Leighsw2]

It's a residential area not a money making opportunity for people who leave a fucking almighty mess behind.

My point entirely - for those of us who live here, Brixton is not a 'destination' or a 'vibrant' night out, it's our home and people should have some respect for it.

 

[DietCokeGirl]

About the only thing more annoying than being kept awake by a crazy loud party is being told not to worry about it by people who can't hear it

I was there having a dance, along with a a wide cross section of people who don't object to a bit of fun. Was great to see so many people, young and old, from kids to people 60+, inclusing lots of local faces, there having a dance and enjoying some music at a truly free and welcoming community event on a bank holiday weekend.