buscador
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Oi! We were doing our bestest to lower the tone.
Brixton news, rumour and general chat - April 2014
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Oi! We were doing our bestest to lower the tone.
I was drinking in the street as often as I could.
ffsear
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Same here. Even though my grandparents were born in Brixton and lived their entire lives here. My entire family have lived in Brixton/Streatham hill area for the best part of 80 years. But to some, being a middle class professional gives me no right to be here.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Well if their fearful predictions are correct, this place will be nothing but middle class posters.... Or bizarrely, filled with people who used to live in Brixton once
Manter
Lunch Mob
I don't come from here, none of my family are from here, I haven't lived here for over a decade, but I have as much right to be here as anyone else. I have given up apologising- if I am to be condemned on the basis of accent and parental occupation, so be it.
Fuck off.
ffsear
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Its the need to condemn that baffles me. I can't imagine how damaging the constant negative and pessimistic outlook on ones own community must be. Very emotionally destructive I'm sure. Such negativity will often spiral out of control. These people must be consumed with anger every time they leave their own home. WHy would someone even live in London with that attitude.
Check out this hatred blog. Very very odd.
http://fuckoffbacktoclapham.wordpress.com/
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
if an area changes and you can't afford to shop and eat in the new places or don't feel you have the social capital to feel welcome or don't even want that social capital to join in because it isn't about your values and interests then perhaps you begin to feel like a shabby stranger in what used to be your home? I saw that in Homerton/viccy park as the area became knee deep in deli's and hobby shops - the launderette became a fresh fish shop and the pub became a wood fired pizza place with dj's (although the secret porn mag shop was replaced with a Vietnamese restaurant so it wasn't all bad)
madolesance
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Manter
Lunch Mob
There is a fuck of a lot wrong with the process of gentrification, and the gentrification in Brixton is happening suddenly and very fast. And there are bigger issues with polarising societal trends and the current government's vicious, divisive policies. I completely understand that it's both destructive and alienating, and locally have done my fair share of wincing and eye rolling at some of the tits around the place.
But there have always been tits around the place, and everyone moving in is not some amorphous evil mass 'the middle class'. Everyone has a backstory, a history- we've all experienced joys, and sadness, had days when we've been insensitive to our fellow man and days when we've done amazing things to help them. Being dismissed as some sort of dead eyed horde braying mindlessly as I steamroller all around me is as hurtful as it is tedious and bizarre.
T & P
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Jesus fucking wept
Manter
Lunch Mob
You make connections with people through shared experience IMO. On the 7.20 thameslink into Blackfriars my shared experience is with other wage-slaves leaving the houses round me to commute. Whereas now, I go to the local mother and baby group and mix with a whole different group of people because we have a shared experience. We can talk about the comedy bum wiggling as they try to crawl, and how to get food out of babygrows.... And then our life paths will diverge again when I go back to work. I don't think not mixing is conscious or universal (there are always horrible, snobby exceptions) it's circumstantial.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Most of these unwanted incomers don't want to come in here anyway - but foreign cash has priced them out of their natural habitats.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Advice you could do with taking yourself, to be frank.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Except, of course, that some of us who live on them have made it clear for years that what "this place" (Brixton) will be is actually islands of (relative) deprivation (AKA council estates) in a sea of (relative) privilege, and that those imbalances, which aren't currently insurmountable, may become so.
What's "bizarre" about that? Pretty much every "local" forum I've ever seen has former as well as current residents posting.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Just spend a fantastic couple of hours at the flea market on Brixton Station Road chatting with an Urbanite stallholder. It was good shooting the breeze with passers by. Couldn't find any fleas for sale.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Because, just perhaps, the attitude you're representing as prevelant isn't the actual (ever-so-slightly more ambivalent) attitude that many of us who worry about gentrification and its effects actually hold?
Yes, and so totally representative of criticism of gentrification.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I've been to flea markets far and wide, and there are rarely fleas for sale unless you find a stall selling '60s-vintage Astrakahn coats.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I disagree. I'd say that some of them don't want to be here, but that others have moved her at least partly due to the perceived cultural cachet the area currently has.
We moved to Brixton 25 years ago because we couldn't afford a house in Clapham. Within days we realised what a lucky escape we'd had; Brixton felt like home from the minute we moved in which Clapham could never have done. Contemporaries who could afford Clapham didn't stay, they moved to the 'burbs. We've just paid off the mortgage on the house we bought back then, when the outside perception of Brixton was of a riot-torn ghetto. Now, thanks to Jay Rayner and people like us, the outside perception is much more positive, and it has changed the sort of people who move here. People who complain about the noise from the 414.... who weren't born when Brixton was in the news for social unrest... and I'm not sure I like the change, but I'm not sure I have any right to complain about it, because we were incomers too once.
I do however have a right to complain about the polarisation in society, the huge income disparities which have been growing since 1979 and in particular between 1997 and 2010 (as big an indictment of Labour's time in office as the war in Iraq imo) , because it's that inequality that's really the problem, not anyone's accent however grating it sounds.
I do however have a right to complain about the polarisation in society, the huge income disparities which have been growing since 1979 and in particular between 1997 and 2010 (as big an indictment of Labour's time in office as the war in Iraq imo) , because it's that inequality that's really the problem, not anyone's accent however grating it sounds.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
I said I think a forum about Brixton entirely populated by people who don't live in Brixton would be bizarre.
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
Absolute proof you've not got a clue what you're talking about.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I have come to the conclusion that Deptford is better than Brixton.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
So, you're so saintly that none of your "likes" are ever because you have a tendency to "like" posts by posters whose opinions echo your own, then?
Pull the other one.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
I like posts that I like. Feel free to go back and look.
You may do it a different way but you'd do well not to try to tar me with that chilishly simplistic brush.
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