Can you clarify how you have very definitely observed whatever it is that you have observed (or not observed)?
teuchter do you know which FB that was posted in?
It's in the One Lambeth one.
And people who can’t afford the cost of train travel will drive if they can. It works out lots cheaper to drive if you live way out. Those traffic jams along the A2 every morning are not cars with rich people. People drive because public transport in this country is expensive, unreliable and uncomfortable. It’s not a viable option for lots of working class people who are being forced further and further away from London because of exorbitant housing costs. Have a look at season ticket costs they’re exorbitant. Other EU countries spend far more subsidising their railways than we do.
What are we talking about now - people living within the LTNs, who are saying they "want their roads back" - which is what this exchange started with?
Wow, did you get past the border guards or is there a mole?
I think they are well aware that they are being watched - there are instructions to keep things civil and I think they remove some posts that aren't good for their PR. Probably the border guards only boot you out if you start arguing pro the LTNs.
Funnily enough I went by train from Denmark Hill to Nunhead Thursday last week at 6 pm. I was amazed how packed the train was.
The proposal is it all goes to the local office, and then it's delivered, by delivery people, from there on foot or bike where possible. Larger things you could do by van, but not everything would have to be by van. And maybe that stuff could be consolidated into one full van per day rather than several part-empty ones.
I read it as small deliveries, like from Amazon etc. There are already places where you can collect your deliveries (like local shops or those yellow amazon lock boxes) and it makes much more sense for delivery drivers to drop a whole load of stuff here in their vans and then individuals walk to collect their orders - could be combined with walk to/from work, school or other shopping. This takes the delivery vehicles off the smaller streets and creates less stress for their drivers as they don't have to negotiate the new LTN's. I personally would welcome a massive expansion of this scheme.
The availability of these services seems to have decreased during COVID. I used to always arrange for items to be sent somewhere nearby, like Hamiltons, Argos or Halfords, as it meant not having to wait in. And Doddle before it closed down. It's rarely an option anymore.
I think you misunderstood my post. I'm referring to having deliveries dropped to a local hub for collection. I used to do this all the time because it meant not having to be home.
Interesting. That's not been my experience. DPDs redirect option never seems to be available any more, for instance. I wasn't even aware that supermarkets acted as collection hubs, other than Sainsburys for Argos. Are we definitely talking about the same thing? Where do you get things dropped to?
Lambeth were cutting back services before the pandemic because of cuts and here these selfish f**ks are engaging them in a costly legal action because they can't drive down a road or spend 10 extra minutes in traffic.
It would be interesting to know what councillor Tim Briggs has to say about the use of Lambeth's resources for this. Presumably even if their case is rubbish, at a certain point Lambeth would have to divert staff time to dealing with it.
enjoywalthamforest.co.uk
Of course public transports a viable Means of transport for somewhere further out in the commuter belt like Medway. £6k for a season ticket. And who would travel in a packed train or tube if they had the option of driving a car during covid? But Until our public transport system is up to the mark many people who are forced economically to live further and further from their work will choose to own and drive cars. I haven’t yet met many people who have to drive through London during peak times who say it’s an enjoyable experience, they do it for a variety of reasons, but because they can’t see a more convenient or affordable alternative
I've seen it said that the biggest cause of congestion in London is because of the huge extra numbers of both Ubers and of online delivery vans
Delivery vans and apps like Uber 'fuel rise in pollution in London' so I'm not sure online shopping is helping either traffic or our town centres
I think the point of central distrubution centres is to allow the 'last mile delivery' i.e. from big van to people's houses, can be more efficiently done by smaller electric vans, by electric cargo bikes and so on: Parcel groups seek to deliver greener ‘last mile’ processes
Waltham Forest council have started to trial efforts in this area and it would be great to see Lambeth follow suit at some point:
ZED – Zero Emission Deliveries - Enjoy Waltham Forest
In 2016, Waltham Forest Council was successful in securing funding from the Mayor’s Air Quality Fund to set up a zero emission delivery scheme in the borough, using cargo bikes and electric vehicles. Following a successful pilot ‘Christmas Courier’ which saw over 1,000 parcels delivered to local...
